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This was WH40K back when it was Awesome

Started by RPGPundit, March 20, 2012, 01:58:31 PM

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Ladybird

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Quote from: Marleycat;523776Me either.  Thank God 40k is so bullshit that I just do my own rendition while laughing at anybody with the balls to tell me I'm doing it wrong. It's like saying you're doing Forgotten Realms wrong, it doesn't compute.

Win. 40k is a big universe, and as long as you can get the attitude correct the details don't matter that much.

It also helps to realise that there are maybe a handful of people in the entire 40k game universe who have access to the same level of knowledge about it as we do.

Quote from: Simlasa;523803I think grasping for a stronger appeal to the American (U.S.) market might be part of why they made that shift.

I think you're onto something; they really lost the quirky Britishness as they expanded overseas, but there were also quite a bit of changes in British culture around the same time, and the developers had got older too. So... it's probably a few factors going on there.

QuoteEDIT: Actually, looking at that drawing in Pundit's OP, maybe 40K was ALWAYS based on pro-wrestling.

I'd bet money that the model for that picture was one of the original game's design team. Remove the weapons and you've got a generic heavy metal fan.
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Simlasa

Quote from: The Butcher;523814I hate you.
What?! Tom of Finland is great, epic homoerotic art... and so is a lot of 40k imagery.

Rincewind1

Quote from: Simlasa;523837What?! Tom of Finland is great, epic homoerotic art... and so is a lot of 40k imagery.

The proportions are fucked up.
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Simlasa

Quote from: Rincewind1;523839The proportions are fucked up.
On the 40K stuff? I know, how could anyone fit in that power armor or lift a gun that big... but it's fun nonetheless.

Marleycat

Quote from: Rincewind1;523782All girls club? Bollocks (no offence!) I know quite a few women that play WFB or W40k (wargame). I admit that quite a few of them are husbands of players, but most of them seems to be genuinely interested (and kicked my ass a few times).

It's just my opinion and one easily ignored in TRPG, not a wargamer but I don't see why there wouldn't be some women in the hobby it's just about strategy and tactics.  If women are in all phases of the military IRL why not wargaming.
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soviet

Quote from: Ladybird;523836I think you're onto something; they really lost the quirky Britishness as they expanded overseas, but there were also quite a bit of changes in British culture around the same time, and the developers had got older too. So... it's probably a few factors going on there.

Wasn't it simply because the people who wrote WFRP2 were American non-GW employees? GW just licensed the rights and walked away IIRC

Quote from: Ladybird;523836I'd bet money that the model for that picture was one of the original game's design team. Remove the weapons and you've got a generic heavy metal fan.

In the original RT book there's a two page splash of muties... all of them based on the design team.
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Ladybird

Quote from: soviet;523983Wasn't it simply because the people who wrote WFRP2 were American non-GW employees? GW just licensed the rights and walked away IIRC

That's probably part of it, yeah. But the original WH40K was written in the 80's which was not a nice decade to live in Britain (Unless you were rich, and games designers aren't); basically summed up as "Thatcher and the Cold War, everything fucking sucks", and by the 90's, a lot of that was gone. The designers just weren't thinking like that any more.

Warhammer, 40K, Fighting Fantasy, SLA Industries; all very much products of their time.

QuoteIn the original RT book there's a two page splash of muties... all of them based on the design team.

I actually like that picture. It's silly but not stupid, and it's explicitly a shout-out to the developers.
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