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The RPG.Net SJW ban nazis are at it again

Started by Batjon, December 28, 2020, 03:18:59 PM

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Dropbear

Quote from: Brad on May 20, 2021, 09:14:50 AM
I have to echo the sentiments that RPG forums are, for the most part, totally irrelevant to hobby outside of a small subset of people. Even social media is mostly irrelevant, honestly. Out of the people I play with, only one of them even uses Facebook, and he just trolls dumb memes; I doubt he even knows RPG groups exist on there. My best friend and I have been playing together since 2002 and I doubt he could name one RPG forum or social media group, and this is a guy who I met on a music forum to start a band, so it's not like he has no idea how to use the stuff.

The real issue is that douchelords at WotC seem to think a couple hundred SJWs bitching on Twitter equates to what the market wants. Do they actually DO any market research anymore? The average gamer does not give one fuck about black lesbian elves who are now white or whatever; they just don't. I would guess that most of them just want quality products that don't feature a ton of unnecessary bullshit, virtue signaling, etc. People play games as an escape from the real world, they don't want to be beat over the head with dumbass agendas whenever they play a fantasy game about fruity elves slaughtering evil goblins.

I have to agree with Brad here. I am the only one out of my home group of 6 people ranging from 21-54 who reads forums or social media about RPGs at all. The only passing mention that someone gives is something they saw on Fb. All have given up on reading anything about tabletop news because of the direction most gaming companies seem to be taking - unnecessary bullshit, virtue signaling, and dumbass agendas clubbing us over our heads at every turn. They just don't really care about it all, and want to play a game.

TJS

Isn't traffic on forums way down on its peak?

I do remember there was a time on rpgnet where you look at a forum, and unless a topic had exploded overnight, there would be a completely different list of threads on the front page.  These days, threads with no new replies can linger for days.

And in any case, even on the bigger sites like rpgnet or ENworld, you quickly notice that most of the posts are actually by a pretty small handful of people.

Wntrlnd

Quote from: Dropbear on May 20, 2021, 06:02:45 PM
Quote from: Brad on May 20, 2021, 09:14:50 AM
I have to echo the sentiments that RPG forums are, for the most part, totally irrelevant to hobby outside of a small subset of people. Even social media is mostly irrelevant, honestly. Out of the people I play with, only one of them even uses Facebook, and he just trolls dumb memes; I doubt he even knows RPG groups exist on there. My best friend and I have been playing together since 2002 and I doubt he could name one RPG forum or social media group, and this is a guy who I met on a music forum to start a band, so it's not like he has no idea how to use the stuff.

The real issue is that douchelords at WotC seem to think a couple hundred SJWs bitching on Twitter equates to what the market wants. Do they actually DO any market research anymore? The average gamer does not give one fuck about black lesbian elves who are now white or whatever; they just don't. I would guess that most of them just want quality products that don't feature a ton of unnecessary bullshit, virtue signaling, etc. People play games as an escape from the real world, they don't want to be beat over the head with dumbass agendas whenever they play a fantasy game about fruity elves slaughtering evil goblins.

I have to agree with Brad here. I am the only one out of my home group of 6 people ranging from 21-54 who reads forums or social media about RPGs at all. The only passing mention that someone gives is something they saw on Fb. All have given up on reading anything about tabletop news because of the direction most gaming companies seem to be taking - unnecessary bullshit, virtue signaling, and dumbass agendas clubbing us over our heads at every turn. They just don't really care about it all, and want to play a game.

Of the people I've ever played with I know of only 1 that has/had a rpg.net account. Of the other people I know their forum activities have been of the kind where they have a question about interpretation of the rules, so they join game specific forums so they can get answers on rule/settings questions or feedback on specific ideas.

Few of them would be considered a good fit for Rpg.net, even the left leaning ones. (and so i've told them to dont bother)

Ghostmaker

#948
https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/guidance-request-a-good-example-is-also-a-racist-trope.881680/

This one is just plain weird, because you actually have to dig out the thread they're referencing (found here: https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/deep-speech-draconic-the-languages-of-the-monster-manual.879285/ )

As... near as I can tell, they're actually recoiling from the term for 'ruler' in Infernal being close to 'master', and we all know how weak-kneed leftists get when someone uses THAT word.

I could be wrong. I could be misreading this. But it definitely makes me rub my temples.

EDIT: Ironically, I really like the discussion about planar/nonhumanoid languages. The idea of draconic as a diplomatic language is interesting.

Stephen Tannhauser

Quote from: Ghostmaker on May 21, 2021, 10:59:55 AMAs... near as I can tell, they're actually recoiling from the term for 'ruler' in Infernal being close to 'master', and we all know how weak-kneed leftists get when someone uses THAT word.

For a bunch of people so enamoured of "following the science," these folks really don't seem to be aware that the strong Sapir-Whorf language hypothesis is now pretty much considered debunked across the field of linguistics (to the best of my own recent knowledge, anyway).
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TJS

Quote from: Stephen Tannhauser on May 21, 2021, 02:47:20 PM
Quote from: Ghostmaker on May 21, 2021, 10:59:55 AMAs... near as I can tell, they're actually recoiling from the term for 'ruler' in Infernal being close to 'master', and we all know how weak-kneed leftists get when someone uses THAT word.

For a bunch of people so enamoured of "following the science," ...
Ha! ;D

The Thing

Quote from: TJS on May 21, 2021, 05:11:51 PM
Quote from: Stephen Tannhauser on May 21, 2021, 02:47:20 PM
Quote from: Ghostmaker on May 21, 2021, 10:59:55 AMAs... near as I can tell, they're actually recoiling from the term for 'ruler' in Infernal being close to 'master', and we all know how weak-kneed leftists get when someone uses THAT word.

For a bunch of people so enamoured of "following the science," ...
Ha! ;D

Hmm, but the term 'rules' are associated with 'ruler', so doesn't the mods having rules make them the rulers, and therefore not allowed under that line of.....rational?

TJS

Quote from: The Thing on May 21, 2021, 05:14:48 PM
Quote from: TJS on May 21, 2021, 05:11:51 PM
Quote from: Stephen Tannhauser on May 21, 2021, 02:47:20 PM
Quote from: Ghostmaker on May 21, 2021, 10:59:55 AMAs... near as I can tell, they're actually recoiling from the term for 'ruler' in Infernal being close to 'master', and we all know how weak-kneed leftists get when someone uses THAT word.

For a bunch of people so enamoured of "following the science," ...
Ha! ;D

Hmm, but the term 'rules' are associated with 'ruler', so doesn't the mods having rules make them the rulers, and therefore not allowed under that line of.....rational?
Permabanned for not being a good fit for the forum.

Stephen Tannhauser

Quote from: TJS on May 21, 2021, 05:38:20 PM
Permabanned for not being a good fit for the forum.

Don't scare me like that!  :o  ???  ::)
Better to keep silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt. -- Mark Twain

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Kyle Aaron

Quote from: Stephen Tannhauser on May 21, 2021, 02:47:20 PMthe strong Sapir-Whorf language hypothesis is now pretty much considered debunked across the field of linguistics
Really? So Orwell's Newspeak wouldn't have crushed all resistance to Big Brother after all, then? That's actually heartening to think. If that's so, don't let them know - the SJW are making huge efforts to change our languages because they want to determine our thoughts, let's not let them know their efforts are wasted, let them keep spinning their wheels.
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TJS

Quote from: Kyle Aaron on May 21, 2021, 07:54:35 PM
Quote from: Stephen Tannhauser on May 21, 2021, 02:47:20 PMthe strong Sapir-Whorf language hypothesis is now pretty much considered debunked across the field of linguistics
Really? So Orwell's Newspeak wouldn't have crushed all resistance to Big Brother after all, then? That's actually heartening to think. If that's so, don't let them know - the SJW are making huge efforts to change our languages because they want to determine our thoughts, let's not let them know their efforts are wasted, let them keep spinning their wheels.
There is a real sense in which the woke worldview is completely rooted in dated mid 20th century ideas.


Chris24601

Quote from: TJS on May 21, 2021, 08:28:30 PM
Quote from: Kyle Aaron on May 21, 2021, 07:54:35 PM
Quote from: Stephen Tannhauser on May 21, 2021, 02:47:20 PMthe strong Sapir-Whorf language hypothesis is now pretty much considered debunked across the field of linguistics
Really? So Orwell's Newspeak wouldn't have crushed all resistance to Big Brother after all, then? That's actually heartening to think. If that's so, don't let them know - the SJW are making huge efforts to change our languages because they want to determine our thoughts, let's not let them know their efforts are wasted, let them keep spinning their wheels.
There is a real sense in which the woke worldview is completely rooted in dated mid 20th century ideas.
Yeah, mostly of those ruling continental Europe c. 1940-1945.

The Thing

Uh, yean, avout comparing the left to nazis? I'm tired of leftist extremism and i'm a leftist,. but i have not heard anyone on the left calling for the utter extermination of people who disagree with him.

As for the right....

https://eu.alamogordonews.com/story/news/local/new-mexico/2020/05/20/otero-county-commissioner-couy-griffin-only-good-democrat-dead-democrat/5220170002/

So let's not make like the far left is the only extremist fringe group threatening freedom in america.

Ratman_tf

Quote from: The Thing on May 21, 2021, 09:59:37 PM
Uh, yean, avout comparing the left to nazis? I'm tired of leftist extremism and i'm a leftist,. but i have not heard anyone on the left calling for the utter extermination of people who disagree with him.

As for the right....

https://eu.alamogordonews.com/story/news/local/new-mexico/2020/05/20/otero-county-commissioner-couy-griffin-only-good-democrat-dead-democrat/5220170002/

So let's not make like the far left is the only extremist fringe group threatening freedom in america.

They just compare everyone on the right to nazis.
Remember what we did to nazis? We fucking shot them.
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