I was just made aware of a new crowdfunding campaign by Jeremy Hambly/The Quartering that is for a new gaming (both tabletop and video) news site with no politics by the name of "Exclusively Games." The crowdfunding campaign only has one day remaining. You can find it here (https://igg.me/at/ExclusivelyGames/x/2748526).
I have a feeling we are going to get right wing hot takes instead of left wing. Like his video excusing the gamer who beat his wife on stream. Fuck that neck bearded loser.
How is that even going to work? Politics is bleeding into everything?
Quote from: Lurtch;1068167I have a feeling we are going to get right wing hot takes instead of left wing.
Possibly.
Quote from: Omega;1068168How is that even going to work? Politics is bleeding into everything?
I don't know, but I'd like to see him try because I am quite tired of politics in all of my tabletop and video gaming news these days.
I've registered there.
If it really does remain politics free and only about gaming, then it could be a decent place to discuss PC gaming and stuff like that.
Time will tell.
Quote from: Omega;1068168How is that even going to work? Politics is bleeding into everything?
It even bleeds into my clothes washing! :( Oh, that was me mixing my whites & colors by accident. :o Nevermind, I wholly own my pinko undies now...
Quote from: Lurtch;1068167I have a feeling we are going to get right wing hot takes instead of left wing. Like his video excusing the gamer who beat his wife on stream. Fuck that neck bearded loser.
If by excusing you mean condemning, at least 5 times that I counted, and saying no one should hit anyone then sure.
The point of his video was to say that unfortunately he thinks this is just going to be reported as a toxic male gamer going off on his wife instead of what Hambley believes is the larger problem, streaming culture and video game addiction and how those can lead to this sort of situation. He points out that the wife was also verbally abusive and allegedly threw things at the guy before he allegedly hit her but very few reports are mentioning that part.
Hambley says over and over that the abuse is wrong and nobody deserves it, the guy or his wife.
As for his website, it would be nice if he ends up creating the space he claims he wants. Unfortunately I don't think he's going to be allowed to. Sean Halliday (guy the outrage brigade got fired from GOG) was going to be a mod there but when word got out they smeared him online and in social media, started phoning his parents and friends, and all the usual life ruining tactics they are known for and forced him to back out.
Quote from: Lurtch;1068167I have a feeling we are going to get right wing hot takes instead of left wing. Like his video excusing the gamer who beat his wife on stream. Fuck that neck bearded loser.
He didn't do that. He said no one should be hitting anyone. Jeremy only said the woman was being violent first and both should had been charged. Did you even watch and listen to the video?
Quote from: rgalex;1068216If by excusing you mean condemning, at least 5 times that I counted, and saying no one should hit anyone then sure.
The point of his video was to say that unfortunately he thinks this is just going to be reported as a toxic male gamer going off on his wife instead of what Hambley believes is the larger problem, streaming culture and video game addiction and how those can lead to this sort of situation. He points out that the wife was also verbally abusive and allegedly threw things at the guy before he allegedly hit her but very few reports are mentioning that part.
Hambley says over and over that the abuse is wrong and nobody deserves it, the guy or his wife.
I'm shocked (https://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Wai0KpzGIPQ/SCCO3TqI8OI/AAAAAAAAAy8/0NDL9PxoRMI/s1600-h/rick-louie-gambling.jpg) to hear that Lurtch was misrepresenting the situation.
Quote from: Snowman0147;1068230He didn't do that. He said no one should be hitting anyone. Jeremy only said the woman was being violent first and both should had been charged. Did you even watch and listen to the video?
I watched the entire thing. He absolutely tried to both side it. Here is the issue with guys like Hambly: he's not very smart.
The guy who beat his wife is at fault. That's the end of the story. Watch the video and you'll see he had zero reason to beat his wife.
He did this "his wife did bad stuff too and that isn't being covered!"
Quote from: rgalex;1068216If by excusing you mean condemning, at least 5 times that I counted, and saying no one should hit anyone then sure.
The point of his video was to say that unfortunately he thinks this is just going to be reported as a toxic male gamer going off on his wife instead of what Hambley believes is the larger problem, streaming culture and video game addiction and how those can lead to this sort of situation. He points out that the wife was also verbally abusive and allegedly threw things at the guy before he allegedly hit her but very few reports are mentioning that part.
Hambley says over and over that the abuse is wrong and nobody deserves it, the guy or his wife.
As for his website, it would be nice if he ends up creating the space he claims he wants. Unfortunately I don't think he's going to be allowed to. Sean Halliday (guy the outrage brigade got fired from GOG) was going to be a mod there but when word got out they smeared him online and in social media, started phoning his parents and friends, and all the usual life ruining tactics they are known for and forced him to back out.
You know how to defend gamers without both siding a guy who beat his wife? Talk about how there is no evidence that gamers are more violent than the general population and that we have evidence that gamers are less violent. Go after shitty hot takes and point out that one guy doing something awful has little to do with the population of gamers as a whole.
Here is how you don't condmen something like this:
He should have never hit her but she was antagonizing him and reportedly threw something at him. That is both siding it.
He should never had hit her. The end.
Want to talk about streaming and video game addiction? Great. Do a video on that. Don't both side it. Did you watch the video? He didn't do anything to deserve being hit. And watching Jeremy's clip he tries to make it look by lying and implying that she did.
Men should never hit women. We are much larger and much stronger.
Bullshit! I don't give a fuck how tiny a knife is it can still kill a man. A woman can kill a man unless your too sexist realise that. She chosen to be a violent shit of a human being and you want to skip past that.
Jeremy is the absolute objective right when he said both are shit. You just need to move on and realise women are human beings responsible for their choices and actions.
Quote from: Lurtch;1068167I have a feeling we are going to get right wing hot takes instead of left wing. Like his video excusing the gamer who beat his wife on stream. Fuck that neck bearded loser.
The fact that she instigated by throwing a box at her boyfriend? She's as guilty as he is. BOTH should be punished APPROPRIATELY. I think the guy needs to be punished more for his reaction, but she's not innocent in this either.
And frankly, why does it matter? That's not our business. We don't really care about Pundit's politics or his home life, as we're here to discuss gaming, mainly D&D ones.
Quote from: Lurtch;1068246Men should never hit women. We are much larger and much stronger.
That does not excuse women's violence.
"Doublesiding" is only bad if you go too far into victim-blaming.
There is also matters like how actually damaging things are, like ... a box? What kind of box?
Cardboard(nowhere near as hard as a punch, perhaps less hard than a male slap if the male is stronger or more aggressive than average)?
Or something harder(which still must hit something vital in order to be more damaging than a punch)?
Yet still, it do seem like Jeremy tried to be fair, blaming the situation more than the individuals, and as such .... yeah, he might make it neutral.
His clientele, however, .... let's wish he get a crowd similar enough to this site, in that several people there can be unafraid to call out bullshit as they see it.
Quote from: Lurtch;1068246Men should never hit women. We are much larger and much stronger.
That doesn't mean it's okay for women to hit men. While women are more abused by their partner, men are actually not far behind. It's something like 24% of women, 14% of men.
Quote from: JeremyR;1068267That doesn't mean it's okay for women to hit men. While women are more abused by their partner, men are actually not far behind. It's something like 24% of women, 14% of men.
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/the-psychiatrist/article/domestic-violence-is-most-commonly-reciprocal/C5432B0C6F8F61B49A4E2B60B931FA07
I don't wanna deal with judging domestic disputes through social media, personally. Just as much as cops don't want to deal with domestic disputes in the first place. :) They are so sad and messy. Best for courts to decide so I can go my merry way without drama. Sucks for the game company feeling obliged to respond for community catharsis... :(
Yeah this is totally going to stay no politics.
I would say it probably will simply because he already has a forum for his political views, which is where the abuse video commentary was shared. Not on "Exclusively Games".
Quote from: Omega;1068314Yeah this is totally going to stay no politics.
Of course it wont, just look at this site!
However, do look at this site, it do not so much avoid politics, as it approaches politics as one competent at meditating handles thoughts during meditation, i.e. avoids focusing on it.
So should we start a betting pool on how long it takes for the screaming insanity section of the internet to try and get him shut down, either by going after the host, the service provider or just ddosing the shit out of the forum?
Quote from: Warboss Squee;1068367So should we start a betting pool on how long it takes for the screaming insanity section of the internet to try and get him shut down, either by going after the host, the service provider or just ddosing the shit out of the forum?
He bought the domain name via GoDaddy.com (the same domain name registar that took altright.com and gab.ai down (https://www.businessinsider.com/gab-temporarily-shuts-down-after-godaddy-pulls-support-2018-10)), so yeah. He's screwed. Why anyone would use GoDaddy to register a domain name, especially someone on the far right, I have no idea.
Quote from: Apparition;1068370He bought the domain name via GoDaddy.com (the same domain name registar that took altright.com and gab.ai down (https://www.businessinsider.com/gab-temporarily-shuts-down-after-godaddy-pulls-support-2018-10)), so yeah. He's screwed. Why anyone would use GoDaddy to register a domain name, especially someone on the far right, I have no idea.
I mean hes right of mao so hes far right to some people, but i wouldnt call jeremy far right.
Quote from: Warboss Squee;1068367So should we start a betting pool on how long it takes for the screaming insanity section of the internet to try and get him shut down, either by going after the host, the service provider or just ddosing the shit out of the forum?
"Twitter/youtube/facebook/patroen/etc... are private platforms you should go build your own platforms if you don't like the rules!"
"Okay, I'll make my own site."
"SHUT IT DOWN!"
Let us be clear on who were are talking about - Jeremy Hambly (The Quartering) was not only someone who was perma-banned from all WotC Magic the Gathering events for sexual harassment across his channels, he also got the absolute piss beat out of him by a guy Jeremy Hambly advertised as being a pedophile across his paid media channels that has a fuck ton of viewers on.
Despite his 'noble' ideas of a not-political website, he is someone who has a lot of excess baggage I would not be willing to invest in. He's human garbage. And also its stupid to assume that you could ever NOT talk about politics - they have a way to creep their way into every hobby. You cannot escape it, and it is woefully ignorant to believe that you can set aside politics to simply talk about games. That is not how it works at all.
Sexual harassment? If that is what you call warning people of pedos who are magic the gathering judges and thus have easy reach to children, then I guess your right. Not to mention showed evidence to support his reports such as FBI reports. People who know better just call it whistle blowing.
So your either a fool who believes liars, or your just a fucking liar.
He didnt know or say anything about the guy who punched him, and he was banned according to WOTC for having pepe memes and calling a cosplayer a thot.
Oh those scary Pepe memes... Also calling a hoe a hoe isn't harassment. Seriously look at those ladies on Twitch. They are just selling out their bodies only without needing to strip. Only thing Jeremy is guilty of is speaking the truth.
Well that and liking bad card games (i feel magic isnt really fun. Its just that its the oldest and most well known trading card game.)
I think you might be misinterpreting me a bit too. I dont think calling someone a name should be grounds for a permenant ban, when cheaters get off with much less
Oh let me clarify for you. My sarcastic attitude wasn't aimed at you. It was aiming at a couple of posters in this topic that had been trying to spread bullshit to ruin Jeremy's character. So sorry for that misunderstanding.
Quote from: Snowman0147;1068433So your either a fool who believes liars, or your just a fucking liar.
Dude, it's FeloniousMonk. You know that he can be both.
Quote from: FeloniousMonk;1068432And also its stupid to assume that you could ever NOT talk about politics - they have a way to creep their way into every hobby. You cannot escape it, and it is woefully ignorant to believe that you can set aside politics to simply talk about games. That is not how it works at all.
The Rpg Pub manages to not do politics. As did much of the internet, before Trump.
Quote from: FeloniousMonk;1068432Let us be clear on who were are talking about - Jeremy Hambly (The Quartering) was not only someone who was perma-banned from all WotC Magic the Gathering events for sexual harassment across his channels, he also got the absolute piss beat out of him by a guy Jeremy Hambly advertised as being a pedophile across his paid media channels that has a fuck ton of viewers on.
Despite his 'noble' ideas of a not-political website, he is someone who has a lot of excess baggage I would not be willing to invest in. He's human garbage. And also its stupid to assume that you could ever NOT talk about politics - they have a way to creep their way into every hobby. You cannot escape it, and it is woefully ignorant to believe that you can set aside politics to simply talk about games. That is not how it works at all.
You're so full of shit you could be the next Democrat candidate.
Quote from: FeloniousMonk;1068432Let us be clear on who were are talking about - Jeremy Hambly (The Quartering) was not only someone who was perma-banned from all WotC Magic the Gathering events for sexual harassment across his channels, he also got the absolute piss beat out of him by a guy Jeremy Hambly advertised as being a pedophile across his paid media channels that has a fuck ton of viewers on.
Despite his 'noble' ideas of a not-political website, he is someone who has a lot of excess baggage I would not be willing to invest in. He's human garbage. And also its stupid to assume that you could ever NOT talk about politics - they have a way to creep their way into every hobby. You cannot escape it, and it is woefully ignorant to believe that you can set aside politics to simply talk about games. That is not how it works at all.
You must wonder when the fuck you got ice cream. A lot.
Quote from: Warboss Squee;1068451You're so full of shit you could be the next Democrat candidate.
I don't know why he bothers to lie about this since it is easy to look over Jeremy videos. Jeremy is a godsend to families with children who play magic the gathering.
Quote from: Snowman0147;1068457I don't know why he bothers to lie about this since it is easy to look over Jeremy videos. Jeremy is a godsend to families with children who play magic the gathering.
Because reality is overrated? Because fuck facts? Because if he feels it's true hard enough he might actually believe it?
@FeloniousMonk, when you're at your next support group? Pass on the Kool-Aid. Might do your brain a world of good.
Quote from: Warboss Squee;1068464Because reality is overrated? Because fuck facts? Because if he feels it's true hard enough he might actually believe it?
@FeloniousMonk, when you're at your next support group? Pass on the Kool-Aid. Might do your brain a world of good.
Greetings!
Warboss! :) What the hell is Felonious Monk's problem? In several *months* of recent time, I have only seen this guy post short, snarky, rude, jackass posts. In virtually every thread I have seen him in, he is obnoxious, and fucking abrasive. It's like, ok, fuck stick, you don't seem to like most people here in this forum, so why does he even bother to come here? His politics and attitude seem to be swallowed up in SJW brainwashing. Why doesn't he go to the Big Purple? I'm sure he would be welcomed into the circle-jerk there with open arms!
He doesn't contribute any interesting threads. Even in other people's threads, his commentary is entirely worthless. I don't understand why someone would want to devote the time or energy to simply being such a rude jackass. I can't say I recall seeing anyone here even really interacting with him in any remotely interested or polite way--which gives me the impression that he has zero friends here, and many *enemies* or people that are in general dismissive of him, if not entirely hostile. That makes me wonder, with such evidence, it's like, dude, why are you even here? Is there anyone here that is even remotely interested in anything this guy has to say?
Semper Fidelis,
SHARK
Quote from: SHARK;1068471Greetings!
Warboss! :) What the hell is Felonious Monk's problem? In several *months* of recent time, I have only seen this guy post short, snarky, rude, jackass posts. In virtually every thread I have seen him in, he is obnoxious, and fucking abrasive. It's like, ok, fuck stick, you don't seem to like most people here in this forum, so why does he even bother to come here? His politics and attitude seem to be swallowed up in SJW brainwashing. Why doesn't he go to the Big Purple? I'm sure he would be welcomed into the circle-jerk there with open arms!
He doesn't contribute any interesting threads. Even in other people's threads, his commentary is entirely worthless. I don't understand why someone would want to devote the time or energy to simply being such a rude jackass. I can't say I recall seeing anyone here even really interacting with him in any remotely interested or polite way--which gives me the impression that he has zero friends here, and many *enemies* or people that are in general dismissive of him, if not entirely hostile. That makes me wonder, with such evidence, it's like, dude, why are you even here? Is there anyone here that is even remotely interested in anything this guy has to say?
Semper Fidelis,
SHARK
Eh, most of my posts are short, snarky and rude as well. But I'm an asshole, and I don't shy from that.
Monk on the other hand, in my opinion anyway, is a ideology troll. He's the kind of putz that jumps into a conversation about Tolkien with a drive by remark about how Tolkien is racist because Orcs and feelz.
But ultimately, I'm glad Monk is here, because at my lowest points I can look at him, and boost myself back up with the knowledge that I'm not a vacuous cunt like he is.
The Rpg pub Hero System and the GURPS forums seem to do a fairly good job of staying apolitical, IME, so I think its possible but it requires some pretty vigorous policing and self control from the members.
Quote from: FeloniousMonk;1068432Despite his 'noble' ideas of a not-political website, he is someone who has a lot of excess baggage I would not be willing to invest in. He's human garbage. And also its stupid to assume that you could ever NOT talk about politics - they have a way to creep their way into every hobby. You cannot escape it, and it is woefully ignorant to believe that you can set aside politics to simply talk about games. That is not how it works at all.
A great many people - most, in fact - want to talk about their hobbies without politics intruding. The minority who do want to politicize everything tend to be so persistent and passionate, though, that they can make a hobby forum mostly about politics and ruin it for those who just want to talk about RPGs/fantasy fiction/videogames/movies, etc.. I don't have any problem with someone running a hobby site with an explicit ban on political talk.
Quote from: Haffrung;1068497A great many people - most, in fact - want to talk about their hobbies without politics intruding. The minority who do want to politicize everything tend to be so persistent and passionate, though, that they can make a hobby forum mostly about politics and ruin it for those who just want to talk about RPGs/fantasy fiction/videogames/movies, etc.. I don't have any problem with someone running a hobby site with an explicit ban on political talk.
When the personal is political, everything is political. This is why we get the behavior that so many people can't make the distinctions between what is not political, what is political but related to the topic at hand (to some lesser or greater extent, depending), and what is political and has no topical relationship to the post or even forum.
Arguing with someone that can't or won't make those distinctions is mostly pointless.
QuoteRE: The Quartering, Jeremy Hambly
In essence this guy has a really, reeeeally bad history of harassment using his web channels/influence for harassment and character assassination against people who don't have the money to pay for an attorney to fight him in court. To wit -
Jeremy Hambly banned from Magic the GatheringJeremy Hambly was banned from MtG tournaments by Wizards of the Coast. Right, wrong or indifferent, is a non-disputable fact: https://magic.wizards.com/en/content/suspended-dci-memberships
Here is the story of why Jeremy Hambly was banned: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/jeremy-hambly-magic-the-gathering-harassment-ban
Jeremy Hambly banned from GenCon for LifeJeremy Hambly is also banned from GenCon. Right, wrong or indifferent, this is also non-disputable fact: https://www.gamerevolution.com/news/436451-the-quartering-star-gets-attacked-outside-gen-con
Jeremy Hambly vs Matt LoterHambly vs Loter court dockets (re: getting his ass beat for being a mouthy cunt and using his channels to call Matt Loter a pedophile). This is also non-disputable fact: https://dockets.justia.com/docket/indiana/insdce/1:2018cv03071/88084
Other facts, fiction and half-truths can be found here: https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Jeremy_Hambly
Quote from: FeloniousMonk;1068510In essence this guy has a really, reeeeally bad history of harassment using his web channels/influence for harassment and character assassination against people who don't have the money to pay for an attorney to fight him in court. To wit -
Jeremy Hambly banned from Magic the Gathering
Jeremy Hambly was banned from MtG tournaments by Wizards of the Coast. Right, wrong or indifferent, is a non-disputable fact: https://magic.wizards.com/en/content/suspended-dci-memberships
Here is the story of why Jeremy Hambly was banned: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/jeremy-hambly-magic-the-gathering-harassment-ban
Jeremy Hambly banned from GenCon for Life
Jeremy Hambly is also banned from GenCon. Right, wrong or indifferent, this is also non-disputable fact: https://www.gamerevolution.com/news/436451-the-quartering-star-gets-attacked-outside-gen-con
Jeremy Hambly vs Matt Loter
Hambly vs Loter court dockets (re: getting his ass beat for being a mouthy cunt and using his channels to call Matt Loter a pedophile). This is also non-disputable fact: https://dockets.justia.com/docket/indiana/insdce/1:2018cv03071/88084
Other facts, fiction and half-truths can be found here: https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Jeremy_Hambly
So? We all know people spin their side. Hambly's got his side of the story.
http://thegg.net/interviews/interview-with-jeremy-hambly-the-magic-the-gathering-pedophile-scandal-and-thoughts-on-censorship-and-sjw-madness/
Personally, I don't care. I'll check out the site if and when it goes up, but it's got to have a draw besides "No politics", ya know? It's the content that I'm interested in.
Yet WotC is more than happy to defend the judges and not ask for a basic background check to filter out pedos. So WotC doesn't even have a leg to stand on morally.
Gencon had no right to ban Jeremy as the fight, or to be honest the ambush by his attacker happened at a bar outside of gencon. Jeremy never started the fight nor wanted a fight. His attacker threaten violence on Jeremy in his twitter feed so this shit was planned. All because Jeremy disapproves of Anita Sarkeesian.
Again all evidence are in Jeremy's videos.
So stop it with your bullshit Monk. Everyone else can see past your tactics.
Quote from: FeloniousMonk;1068510In essence this guy has a really, reeeeally bad history of harassment using his web channels/influence for harassment and character assassination against people who don't have the money to pay for an attorney to fight him in court. To wit -
Jeremy Hambly banned from Magic the Gathering
Jeremy Hambly was banned from MtG tournaments by Wizards of the Coast. Right, wrong or indifferent, is a non-disputable fact: https://magic.wizards.com/en/content/suspended-dci-memberships
Here is the story of why Jeremy Hambly was banned: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/jeremy-hambly-magic-the-gathering-harassment-ban
Jeremy Hambly banned from GenCon for Life
Jeremy Hambly is also banned from GenCon. Right, wrong or indifferent, this is also non-disputable fact: https://www.gamerevolution.com/news/436451-the-quartering-star-gets-attacked-outside-gen-con
Jeremy Hambly vs Matt Loter
Hambly vs Loter court dockets (re: getting his ass beat for being a mouthy cunt and using his channels to call Matt Loter a pedophile). This is also non-disputable fact: https://dockets.justia.com/docket/indiana/insdce/1:2018cv03071/88084
Other facts, fiction and half-truths can be found here: https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Jeremy_Hambly
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I'm actually fed up with people defending Hambly. Who has been nothing but an instigator and a negative influence to the communities he had infected.
Yes. Gencon had every right to ban Hambly. Given his history of being a provocateur. And the fact he was banned from all WOTC events. Which Gencon still has a very close relationship with.
I have watched his videos in the past. He has existed to stir up tempers and controversy since he started his Youtube channels. This is not new. His bans from various outlets he brought on himself.
He's a big boy. And he needs to accept the consequences of his actions.
Quote from: Darrin Kelley;1068535I'm actually fed up with people defending Hambly. Who has been nothing but an instigator and a negative influence to the communities he had infected.
Yes. Gencon had every right to ban Hambly. Given his history of being a provocateur. And the fact he was banned from all WOTC events. Which Gencon still has a very close relationship with.
I have watched his videos in the past. He has existed to stir up tempers and controversy since he started his Youtube channels. This is not new. His bans from various outlets he brought on himself.
He's a big boy. And he needs to accept the consequences of his actions.
I agree, one 9f those conseqyences is that people like him enough to get his video game site off the grpund through crowd funding and think he's a good dude.
Quote from: Slambo;1068543I agree, one 9f those conseqyences is that people like him enough to get his video game site off the grpund through crowd funding and think he's a good dude.
If people want to support him and his site. That's on them. That's their choice.
If he wants to make a clean break from his past. The very first thing he needs to do? SHAVE! And shave regularly!
Quote from: Darrin Kelley;1068553If people want to support him and his site. That's on them. That's their choice.
If he wants to make a clean break from his past. The very first thing he needs to do? SHAVE! And shave regularly!
Meh. I like his beard. I also think he makes good content. At this point you've basically done what everyone calls him the villian for. You said his appearence wasnt to your liking and that he was a bad person, and your insigating by trying to turn people opinions agqinst him.
Quote from: Slambo;1068570Meh. I like his beard. I also think he makes good content. At this point you've basically done what everyone calls him the villian for. You said his appearence wasnt to your liking and that he was a bad person, and your insigating by trying to turn people opinions agqinst him.
I don't have to. His own actions have already done that with anyone who isn't willing to pander to his self-indulgence.
I would never compare Hambly to someone like Pundit for example. Pundit doesn't do what he does to only piss people off and get attention. Hambly does. Hambly fits the most basic definition of being a sociopathic troll. Someone who believes they are above any level of real world adult consequences.
Quote from: Darrin Kelley;1068580I would never compare Hambly to someone like Pundit for example. Pundit doesn't do what he does to just piss people off and get attention. Hambly does. Hambly fits the most basic definition of being a sociopathic troll. Someone who believes they are above any level of real world adult consequences.
You mean like you are right now.
Hambly isn't an innocent. He's a proven instigator with a long track record. The claims of harassment by him are absolutely true. Because he out and our courts any controversy he can just to gain attention.
I see him for what he is. Someone desperate for attention. And it doesn't matter to him what the attention actually is. Just that he gets it.
And that is the last type of person in the world I want to throw my support behind. Because doing so only encourages him to keep on trolling.
Quote from: Darrin Kelley;1068587Hambly isn't an innocent. He's a proven instigator with a long track record. The claims of harassment by him are absolutely true. Because he out and our courts any controversy he can just to gain attention.
I see him for what he is. Someone desperate for attention. And it doesn't matter to him what the attention actually is. Just that he gets it.
And that is the last type of person in the world I want to throw my support behind. Because doing so only encourages him to keep on trolling.
I lnow what people claim is harassment about him, like calling people shills or saying thqt cosplayers dont bring people into events. People say much worse about him all the time. Heck look at his comment section.
Quote from: Darrin Kelley;1068535I'm actually fed up with people defending Hambly. Who has been nothing but an instigator and a negative influence to the communities he had infected.
Yes. Gencon had every right to ban Hambly. Given his history of being a provocateur. And the fact he was banned from all WOTC events. Which Gencon still has a very close relationship with.
I have watched his videos in the past. He has existed to stir up tempers and controversy since he started his Youtube channels. This is not new. His bans from various outlets he brought on himself.
He's a big boy. And he needs to accept the consequences of his actions.
Right... Because pointing out that Magic the Gathering was infested with Pedos is a BAD thing. Yeap, let's give creeps access to children because otherwise it's just too negative. And the only reason he 'stirs up tempers' is because PEOPLE LET HIM. I don't like the man, I find him smarmy and insufferable, but he doesn't deserve to be de-platformed and his money taken away because some woman got upset at having her FEELINGS hurt.
Just like I don't think you nor Felonious Monk should NOT be censored for not liking him or being factually incorrect about him either.
Quote from: Christopher Brady;1068604Right... Because pointing out that Magic the Gathering was infested with Pedos is a BAD thing. Yeap, let's give creeps access to children because otherwise it's just too negative. And the only reason he 'stirs up tempers' is because PEOPLE LET HIM. I don't like the man, I find him smarmy and insufferable, but he doesn't deserve to be de-platformed and his money taken away because some woman got upset at having her FEELINGS hurt.
Yeah. You actually went there!
The timing of his outing PEDOS came as a direct response to his being banned from all WOTC events. It was straight retaliation for his ban. Something he demonstrated that he would not have done if they hadn't banned him in the first place.
He didn't give a royal rotting fig about 'the children'. Just the damage he could do to WOTC for their banning him. His motives for that retaliation were nothing but purest self-interest. Completely indefensible.
True or not about the pedophiles. The information he presented is tainted and biased by the fact he wanted revenge on WOTC.
Is that the cosplayer who asked fans to kickstart more money to continue cosplaying then once she had what she wanted, left cosplaying behind?
If that is her she got what she deserved imo. If I give you 10000$ to make repairs to your home and you instead take the kids to Disneyworld and spend it on something else.
Yeah I would be pissed and point that out to as many people I knew.
Quote from: Darrin Kelley;1068608Yeah. You actually went there!
The timing of his outing PEDOS came as a direct response to his being banned from all WOTC events. It was straight retaliation for his ban. Something he demonstrated that he would not have done if they hadn't banned him in the first place.
He didn't give a royal rotting fig about 'the children'. Just the damage he could do to WOTC for their banning him. His motives for that retaliation were nothing but purest self-interest. Completely indefensible.
True or not about the pedophiles. The information he presented is tainted and biased by the fact he wanted revenge on WOTC.
I don't know if he did or not. You're probably right, but we have no evidence of this. However, his retaliation also pointed out something that you are not noticing or are glossing over.
The reason Mr. Hambly got banned from Magic was because he hurt the feelings of an ex-Cosplayer who was using her body to gain money, using a product he enjoyed. He had AN OPINION over it. And SHE DIDN'T LIKE it. So SHE went to WoTC, batted her pretty eyes and sobbed at them about the mean, mean man, and they stole his money.
As a consequence for the objectively overly harsh punishment of saying mean things to a pretty girl, he decided to point out their hypocrisy by not checking the criminal backgrounds of their adult volunteers who were doing MUCH WORSE to CHILDREN. Pedos don't say mean things to children, they ABUSE THEM PHYSICALLY.
Was it revenge? I will say probably. Was it a bad thing he did? I would say no, and I'm actually thankful he did do it, because it means my nieces and nephews are just a little bit safer when playing in my hobbies.
Quote from: Christopher Brady;1068617I don't know if he did or not. You're probably right, but we have no evidence of this. However, his retaliation also pointed out something that you are not noticing or are glossing over.
The reason Mr. Hambly got banned from Magic was because he hurt the feelings of an ex-Cosplayer who was using her body to gain money, using a product he enjoyed. He had AN OPINION over it. And SHE DIDN'T LIKE it. So SHE went to WoTC, batted her pretty eyes and sobbed at them about the mean, mean man, and they stole his money.
As a consequence for the objectively overly harsh punishment of saying mean things to a pretty girl, he decided to point out their hypocrisy by not checking the criminal backgrounds of their adult volunteers who were doing MUCH WORSE to CHILDREN. Pedos don't say mean things to children, they ABUSE THEM PHYSICALLY.
Was it revenge? I will say probably. Was it a bad thing he did? I would say no, and I'm actually thankful he did do it, because it means my nieces and nephews are just a little bit safer when playing in my hobbies.
Greetings!
Right on, Christopher Brady. And of course, *pretty girls* would never, ever use their body and sexuality to get what they want, or to gain an advantage, or to influence someone else so they can get revenge on some dork man they've decided they don't like, right? NEVER!:)
Semper Fidelis,
SHARK
I watched his videos on Youtube. Where he flat out admitted the timeline of events and his motivations. It couldn't be more clear. I saw it straight from the lips of the man himself. He bragged about the damage he was doing.
His exposure of PEDOS in the MTG hobby and at WOTC was undeniably clear and motivated by his personal axe to grind.
His money was not stolen. WOTC had every right to terminate his accounts with them. It's right there in their terms of service. Plain as day.
If you think I'm trying to condone pedophiles. You couldn't be more sorely mistaken. My view on pedophiles involves instant summary execution for those caught in the act. With a court injunction filed forbidding them from ever having a funeral or monument made to them by anyone.
Quote from: SHARK;1068621Greetings!
Right on, Christopher Brady. And of course, *pretty girls* would never, ever use their body and sexuality to get what they want, or to gain an advantage, or to influence someone else so they can get revenge on some dork man they've decided they don't like, right? NEVER!:)
Semper Fidelis,
SHARK
I think we could both tell stories of barracks queens.
Quote from: Warboss Squee;1068630I think we could both tell stories of barracks queens.
Greetings!
LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!! :) Oh, you know that's right!
Semper Fidelis,
SHARK
Quote from: Catelf;1068363Of course it wont, just look at this site!
However, do look at this site, it do not so much avoid politics, as it approaches politics as one competent at meditating handles thoughts during meditation, i.e. avoids focusing on it.
Except for the endless thread derailments over whateverthefuck.
Which have at least started to taper off now that some of the instigators have twittered off to whatever holes they crawl out of.
Quote from: CarlD.;1068491The Rpg pub Hero System and the GURPS forums seem to do a fairly good job of staying apolical, IME, so I think its possible but it requires some pretty vigorous policing and self control from the members.
Or you only discuss games and designers who havent drank the kool-aid. Or gloss over the fact they did. You know. just a tender wistful sigh at the mention.
Quote from: FeloniousMonk;1068432And also its stupid to assume that you could ever NOT talk about politics - they have a way to creep their way into every hobby. You cannot escape it, and it is woefully ignorant to believe that you can set aside politics to simply talk about games. That is not how it works at all.
I disagree. My chatroom has been apolitical since 2001.
Quote from: Darrin Kelley;1068623I watched his videos on Youtube. Where he flat out admitted the timeline of events and his motivations. It couldn't be more clear. I saw it straight from the lips of the man himself. He bragged about the damage he was doing.
Got a link to prove it?
Quote from: Darrin Kelley;1068623His exposure of PEDOS in the MTG hobby and at WOTC was undeniably clear and motivated by his personal axe to grind.
Maybe so, but are you saying that it is a BAD THING that the presence of pedophiles in MtG events sanctioned by WotC where kids who are potential victims are attending?
Quote from: Darrin Kelley;1068623His money was not stolen. WOTC had every right to terminate his accounts with them. It's right there in their terms of service. Plain as day.
Usually when a company terminates your business with them, they return or refund the money invested.
Quote from: Darrin Kelley;1068623If you think I'm trying to condone pedophiles. You couldn't be more sorely mistaken. My view on pedophiles involves instant summary execution for those caught in the act. With a court injunction filed forbidding them from ever having a funeral or monument made to them by anyone.
You sure have a funny way of showing it.
Quote from: Omega;1068650Or you only discuss games and designers who havent drank the kool-aid. Or gloss over the fact they did. You know. just a tender wistful sigh at the mention.
Greetings!
LOL! "Tender wistful sigh" at the mention. :)
Semper Fidelis,
SHARK
Quote from: Dan Davenport;1068672I disagree. My chatroom has been apolitical since 2001.
True, it's also a bygone relic of a nobler age.
Quote from: RPGPundit;1069394True, it's also a bygone relic of a nobler age.
Not as clumsy or random as TheRPGSite? :D
Quote from: jeff37923;1069497Not as clumsy or random as TheRPGSite? :D
Yeah, probably.
Exclusive Games is now live (https://exclusivelygames.com/).
Quote from: Apparition;1075125Exclusive Games is now live (https://exclusivelygames.com/).
Nice! checking it out! :)
I wonder what are the chances of this becoming a viable alternative to OBS for ttrpgs would be?
Quote from: jeff37923;1069497Not as clumsy or random as TheRPGSite? :D
I got it!