I was right! I long predicted that of the new 2024 �#onednd� core books from WotC, the �#DMG� would be the one they ruin the worst! The first info is terrible.
This will be the last WOTC book, that Chris Perkins is a lead on. He will help WOTC put out the new DMG, and then drop the mic.
For better or worse.
And then who's left? Jeremy Crawford.
Yeah, nobody of any ability is left at all.
ChatGPT is available to pickup the torch and carry it forward into the next generation! All hail our AI DM Overlords!
I don't see why they didn't make a greatest hits out of the previous DM's Guide. Copy/paste as much as possible and they could have made a great book. Instead they have Bastions and X cards.
Sweet Baby Inc. meddled in the design of this new version of D&D. As a result, I refuse to buy it. I won't support anything that company produces.
Quote from: Darrin Kelley on October 25, 2024, 10:41:49 PMSweet Baby Inc. meddled in the design of this new version of D&D. As a result, I refuse to buy it. I won't support anything that company produces.
Did they really? Is there a source saying this? Yikes...
I heard they dropped the idea of the "adventuring day" to measure encounter frequency and difficulty because no one actually ran/played that way. This would be a good thing IMO, but then again, isn't that going to really play with how long and short rests were intended?
Quote from: HappyDaze on October 26, 2024, 11:55:42 AMI heard they dropped the idea of the "adventuring day" to measure encounter frequency and difficulty because no one actually ran/played that way. This would be a good thing IMO, but then again, isn't that going to really play with how long and short rests were intended?
Depends on whether they redefine Long and short rests. 13th Age had its resources tied to either 1/encounter or 1/full heal up, with the latter being "whenever the DM felt like it" with a recommendation of after every four encounters.
Just saying the effects of a short rest happens every other encounter and a long rest after every six encounters (even if they span six separate days of travel) would solve that, though those who strongly favor simulation would pitch a fit.
Personally, I prefer systems where resources are regained a bit more organically than D&D's approach.
Quote from: Ruprecht on October 25, 2024, 09:36:55 PMInstead they have Bastions and X cards.
To be fair, I'm looking forward to bastions. Not that I expect that it will be done well -- but having a baseline concept to mod the hell out of, rather than working on the notion from scratch, will be nice.
Quote from: Chris24601 on October 26, 2024, 01:31:11 PMDepends on whether they redefine Long and short rests.
I'm pretty sure both of these we already defined in the 2024 PHB and were essentially the same as in 2014 PHB, but I'm away from book right now so I can't check.
Quote from: Darrin Kelley on October 25, 2024, 10:41:49 PMSweet Baby Inc. meddled in the design of this new version of D&D.
Hadn't heard that one.
But my lack of surprise is total.
Quote from: RPGPundit on October 25, 2024, 11:06:34 AMYeah, nobody of any ability is left at all.
Listening to Perkins spout off about fake 5e... They dont have anybody with any ability now.
Quote from: Nobleshield on October 26, 2024, 11:50:39 AMQuote from: Darrin Kelley on October 25, 2024, 10:41:49 PMSweet Baby Inc. meddled in the design of this new version of D&D. As a result, I refuse to buy it. I won't support anything that company produces.
Did they really? Is there a source saying this? Yikes...
WotC was on their client list on their website, before they took the page down. I saw it around the time that WotC put out that book hating on Gygax.
The source was me. I did my own investigation.
Quote from: Darrin Kelley on October 26, 2024, 07:02:49 PMQuote from: Nobleshield on October 26, 2024, 11:50:39 AMQuote from: Darrin Kelley on October 25, 2024, 10:41:49 PMSweet Baby Inc. meddled in the design of this new version of D&D. As a result, I refuse to buy it. I won't support anything that company produces.
Did they really? Is there a source saying this? Yikes...
WotC was on their client list on their website, before they took the page down. I saw it around the time that WotC put out that book hating on Gygax.
The source was me. I did my own investigation.
Hmm... so not 100% confirmed but the signs are there.
Yikes.
The language in the DMG, will probably make some of us want to throw up.
But they will have more time, to write the language for the MM. I anticipate that the lore for each foe, will be "modernized" for the better.
Uh....... no thanks.
Quote from: Man at Arms on October 27, 2024, 05:34:29 AMBut they will have more time, to write the language for the MM. I anticipate that the lore for each foe, will be "modernized" for the better.
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Quote from: Omega on October 26, 2024, 04:05:37 PMQuote from: RPGPundit on October 25, 2024, 11:06:34 AMYeah, nobody of any ability is left at all.
Listening to Perkins spout off about fake 5e... They dont have anybody with any ability now.
He's always been remarkably useless IMO. He seems nice enough and not a Narcissist like Jeremy Crawford, but his public GMing is appalling. If that's supposed to be the acceptable standard I see why people regard Matt Mercer as a Living God. Perkins seems entirely devoid of any discernable talent, the very definition of an Empty Suit (empty baseball cap?). I expect his departure will make essentially no difference one way or another. They were producing drek before, they will continue to be producing drek in the future.
I do find it kind of incredible. They're always happy to sack an actual very strong talent like Rich Baker, who produced probably the majority of the good adventures that ever came out from WotC. Or Mike Mearls for that matter, who has his flaws but clearly did build a good team for the 2014 release, consult genuinely, and create a very good synthesis in 2014 D&D, the game that WoTC has been cannibalising for the past six years.
Quote from: S'mon on October 27, 2024, 07:04:45 AMQuote from: Omega on October 26, 2024, 04:05:37 PMQuote from: RPGPundit on October 25, 2024, 11:06:34 AMYeah, nobody of any ability is left at all.
Listening to Perkins spout off about fake 5e... They dont have anybody with any ability now.
He's always been remarkably useless IMO. He seems nice enough and not a Narcissist like Jeremy Crawford, but his public GMing is appalling. If that's supposed to be the acceptable standard I see why people regard Matt Mercer as a Living God. Perkins seems entirely devoid of any discernable talent, the very definition of an Empty Suit (empty baseball cap?). I expect his departure will make essentially no difference one way or another. They were producing drek before, they will continue to be producing drek in the future.
I do find it kind of incredible. They're always happy to sack an actual very strong talent like Rich Baker, who produced probably the majority of the good adventures that ever came out from WotC. Or Mike Mearls for that matter, who has his flaws but clearly did build a good team for the 2014 release, consult genuinely, and create a very good synthesis in 2014 D&D, the game that WoTC has been cannibalising for the past six years.
I enjoyed Perkins when he was DMing Acquisitions Inc in 4e, but like for the content. His DMing skills were pretty amateur that I recall, but it was more or less an accelerated adventure for consumption not a complete campaign.
Quote from: Darrin Kelley on October 26, 2024, 07:02:49 PMQuote from: Nobleshield on October 26, 2024, 11:50:39 AMQuote from: Darrin Kelley on October 25, 2024, 10:41:49 PMSweet Baby Inc. meddled in the design of this new version of D&D. As a result, I refuse to buy it. I won't support anything that company produces.
Did they really? Is there a source saying this? Yikes...
WotC was on their client list on their website, before they took the page down. I saw it around the time that WotC put out that book hating on Gygax.
The source was me. I did my own investigation.
WotC was on their client list, but given the breadth of their offerings (especially if they were including stuff licensed from WotC, like
Baldur's Gate III), that's not necessarily conclusive for Irrelevant*. Plenty of reasons to avoid Sweet Baby, WotC, and the new game, but accuracy still matters.
*My personal name for the 2024 edition of the game. :)
Something to keep in mind though is that anything they have said will be in the DMG could be just baiting to garner that sweet free outrage advertising. wotc has done it many a time before. No reason to think they wont try it again. But where and how? Smoke & Mirrors like a few times before. Or actually putting it into print like they have before.