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The Great Kingdom - Rise and Fall of Gary Gygax

Started by DKChannelBoredom, June 25, 2014, 06:00:09 AM

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Brad

#15
June 25, 2014, 11:33:59 AM
Will this include the Kuntz/Gygax paternity suit?
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#16
June 25, 2014, 03:12:11 PM
Quote from: Brad;761289Will this include the Kuntz/Gygax paternity suit?

What the holy hell?
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#17
June 25, 2014, 04:01:37 PM
Quote from: CRKrueger;761337What the holy hell?

Bad data.  Pay it no mind.

In other words, he totally yanked that out of his ass.
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#18
June 25, 2014, 04:09:01 PM
Quote from: Old Geezer;761351Bad data.  Pay it no mind.

In other words, he totally yanked that out of his ass.

You saying Gygax pulled out of Kuntz before he got pregnant?

Brad

#19
June 25, 2014, 04:17:55 PM
Quote from: Old Geezer;761351Bad data.  Pay it no mind.

In other words, he totally yanked that out of his ass.

Reliable source. Although he could have been drunk.
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#20
June 25, 2014, 04:58:52 PM
Quote from: Fiasco;761355You saying Gygax pulled out of Kuntz before he got pregnant?

LOL!
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#21
June 25, 2014, 05:39:17 PM
Quote from: Fiasco;761355You saying Gygax pulled out of Kuntz before he got pregnant?

No, he pulled out of Kuntz before YOU got pregnant.
You should go to GaryCon.  Period.

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#22
June 25, 2014, 08:42:21 PM
Quote from: Randaconda;761262I'd rather have a book on the last five or so years of TSR. Like, where was all the money going? Why did they support so many competing lines? That type of shit.
(shrugs)  TSR wasn't the first company -- or the first five hundredth -- that rode the wave of fad-dom to the crest, only to find them overextended, overexpanded and clueless when the boom times were over.
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June 26, 2014, 01:40:32 AM
Quote from: Randaconda;761262I'd rather have a book on the last five or so years of TSR. Like, where was all the money going? Why did they support so many competing lines? That type of shit.

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#24
June 26, 2014, 03:40:04 AM
Quote from: Omega;761279The boxed sets were big and damn hardy too. Those werent cheap posterboard like Games Workshop used. But unless TSR was taking a hellish gouging from the printers. It seems unlikely the boxes were underselling by much, if at all. But the better boxes might have actually tipped it.

But there were some ledger doctoring going on at TSR so I wouldnt take anything at face value.

We will never know.

American Science & Surplus used to sell lots of TSR products that presumably TSR dumped.

I bought a lot of those. They had a lot of boxed sets, but most of it was Buck Rogers. Not the D&D like game, but the adventure game. Also a smattering of Al Qadim and Ravenloft. But mostly it was generic stuff.

But then when WOTC took over, it was nothing but Birthright supplements. They dumped the boxed set for the last one (for the Russian like people) and it must have sold even worse, since I ended up with about 30 of them, 1-2 in each lot.

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#25
June 27, 2014, 04:20:29 PM
Quote from: Randaconda;761276Yeah, I remember the Dancey letter after WotC took over, but I'm not sure he can be taken at his word.

"players didn't want the confusing Planescape."

THIS PLAYER DID!!!!one! *runs off sobbing*

Did he say that?   I know he did say that pretty much every single planescape product was, because of production values, being sold at a loss.
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June 27, 2014, 05:34:39 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit;762143Did he say that?   I know he did say that pretty much every single planescape product was, because of production values, being sold at a loss.

http://insaneangel.com/insaneangel/RPG/Dancey.html

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#27
June 27, 2014, 07:23:35 PM
QuoteThat they buy DUNGEON magazine every two months at a rate twice that of our best selling stand-alone adventures.

Um. Dancy... you ARE aware that Dungeon packed something like 3 or more adventures an issue... At I think 1/2 the price of a module? RIGHT?

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#28
June 27, 2014, 10:09:42 PM
Quote from: Ravenswing;761433(shrugs)  TSR wasn't the first company -- or the first five hundredth -- that rode the wave of fad-dom to the crest, only to find them overextended, overexpanded and clueless when the boom times were over.

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June 27, 2014, 10:37:23 PM
Well, it looks like the makers of The Great Kingdom are being sued over their departure from the D&D Documentary.

There was a recent update, and they posted a link to a copy of the legal complaint filed in court.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/nozd3cwui0bom9a/1%20summons%20complaint%281%29.pdf
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