Quote from: Zachary The FirstHey, did PiG and Flying Mice not send anything in?  Because, by my records, they have been kicking some serious ass this past year.

I've got better things to do with my time

Quote from: mhensleyUmmm.... aren't the ennies supposed to be mainly for D20 products?

No.

This question comes up every year. You'd think we'd have beaten it into submission by now...

QuoteWhere are the WOTC books?  It's beyond meaningless without them.  :confused:

Wizards has not chosen to participate in recent years. Mearls explained why once, but I've lost track of the post.

Quote from: Caesar SlaadWizards has not chosen to participate in recent years. Mearls explained why once, but I've lost track of the post.

I think Tony has the right of it. The bragging rights for a one man band if he beat out Wizards would be spectacular.

The nominees are...

uninspiring.

Except the podcast category: Fear the Boot for the win!

Quote from: One Horse TownI think Tony has the right of it.

Yeah, more or less, but I was hoping to get it as from the horse's mouth.

Quote from: KoltarNot meant as a "treadcrap" - but do these awards really matter?

 Online is the only place where I have ever seen them discussed.

I've never seen any of the games I sell have a sticker or note that says "Won the Ennies".

I've seen them. Not stickers, but some publishers who have won have included an ENnies logo on their books. Paradigm and Green Ronin, I think, at times.

The volunteer nature of the ENnies means that they have a bit limited promotion machine.

Quote from: Abyssal MawDespite the fact that I agree with many of the nominees, this looks like the beginning of the end for the Ennies. I suspect the forgies are already planning the ballot-stuffing operation as we speak.

Enworld is hugely and overwhelmingly a d20 / D&D site. No amount of stuffing will change this, unless the d20 fans over there genuinely like a non-d20 game and are willing to vote for it above their mainstream favourites. Based on this, I'd be very surprised if any indie game won.

I'm pretty disapointed that Clash didn't get so much as an honerable mention for IHW or AiS.

Really, I have seen or owned many of the books that nominated and there are a few that I would have dropped in favor or Clash's two. :raise:

Quote from: McrowI'm pretty disapointed that Clash didn't get so much as an honerable mention for IHW or AiS.

Really, I have seen or owned many of the books that nominated and there are a few that I would have dropped in favor or Clash's two. :raise:

Thanks, Mike, Zachary, and David! Master of the Game had very nice things to say about both games on tBP, which totally surprised me, but I knew going in that neither had any chance of being nominated.

-clash

Quote from: PGivertyEnworld is hugely and overwhelmingly a d20 / D&D site. No amount of stuffing will change this, unless the d20 fans over there genuinely like a non-d20 game and are willing to vote for it above their mainstream favourites. Based on this, I'd be very surprised if any indie game won.

Just to be clear, you don't have to be an ENWorld member to vote, though that is where the awareness of the awards is, of course, the highest.

The judging nominations were opened up and both the Forge and RPGnet were invited to participate. Despite this, most judges were still those with a noticeable ENwnorld presence (one actually had more posts at RPGnet than ENworld.) The forge could not swing enough votes to place their own candidates.

When it comes down to it, any awards that is put to a popular vote before the RPG audience at large is going to be harsh to what most would call "indie" games, because these games are, realistically, a niche market.

There were 2 special "judges" categories last year that did not factor in a popular vote. The innovation award was the ENnies' small way (well, beyond the nominations themselves) of recognizing games that fall beneath the public radar.

Quote from: pigames.netEDIT: Oh, and cheers to whoever nominated PIG for Fan's Choice: Best Publisher. Yes, I will milk it

:hatsoff:

Too bad that Clash didn't get a nomination, though. :raise:

QuoteNot meant as a "treadcrap" - but do these awards really matter?

From a company's POV, a win (or even a nomination) could mean a spike in sales or consumer awareness.


Hey! Shadowrun, Battletech and Qin got some love! :haw: :cool:

Quote from: Caesar SlaadWhen it comes down to it, any awards that is put to a popular vote before the RPG audience at large is going to be harsh to what most would call "indie" games, because these games are, realistically, a niche market.

Exactly, Ceasar! I think the judges have bent over backward to be fair to small press games.

-clash

Quote from: JongWKToo bad that Clash didn't get a nomination, though. :raise:

Quite right. I didn't even know that there was a fan nomination category since I don't really follow it. Someone happened to point it out to me. Had I known, I would have nominated Clash since he's the man when it comes to historicals.

I'd also have to give props to ICE. I've been dealing with them lately because of my paper minis line (the HARP minis and expect some free figures in their upcoming adventures), and they support their customers well with low-cost PDFs and cool freebies - class act.

Uh...Esoterrorists...really?

Seanchai

Quote from: SeanchaiUh...Esoterrorists...really?

Is it any good? I heard that it was rather stiff in its mechanical approach at rendering mysteries.