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Title: The D&D (and OSR) family
Post by: The Butcher on October 11, 2015, 07:54:39 PM
This analogy (http://www.therpgsite.com/showthread.php?p=859464#post859464) was too good to let slip by.

Quote from: ostap bender;859464in other news i think that dcc is now my prefered go to d&d family member. as someone noted: if d&d is family and od&d is great-grandfather than dcc is weird uncle with cool stories that hang out around haight ashbury in 60s.

OD&D is the elderly great-grandfather who apparently makes no sense, though the elders all nod sagely at his ramblings and every now and then put things into context for you.

Holmes Basic is the great-uncle who no one talks about. You've met him a couple of times and he seems like an OK guy. But you don't know what's the deal with him. He looks a lot like great-gramps.

1e is the stern, micromanaging grandfather with a shelf full of leatherbound books dutifully lecturing you on the importance of timekeeping and the risk of disease.

B/X is the great-uncle who takes you to the zoo and buys you candy.

From the very serious, running-the-family-business 1e family tree:

2e is the uncle who stayed with his mother when she and 1e divorced. People still resent him for this, which is why he almost never gets invited to family reunions.

3e is your super annoying uncle who got rich in the 2000s. No longer as affluent as he was in his heyday, what "with the economy and all" but still going on strong.

Castles & Crusades is 3e's kid (3e has like, a TON of kids), who looks a lot like grandpa (1e), considers him a role model, but never did live up to gramp's exacting expectations.

OSRIC is also 3e's kid and C&C's twin. Looks and acts exactly like a younger version of his grandfather. Which is exactly how gramps likes it.

4e is your League of Legends-addicted cousin on Ritalin. He's not a bad kid, just... broadcasting on a different frequency.

5e is your really sweet kid cousin. Everyone dotes on her and gifts her their old stuff from back when they were a kid, books and comics and toys, and she's always totally psyched.

From the totally insane B/X family tree:

LL is as carefree and cool as his dad, possibly even more so.

LotFP is B/X's adolescent kid who's obsessed with Scandinavian black metal and Italian horror movies.

ACKS is B/X's honors student kid who shocked everyone by getting into the Army after majoring in History (or is it the other way around? You're never really sure) and now teaches at West Point.

DCC is B/X's pothead kid. A bit like LotFP only more of a 1970s hard rock and 1950s B-movies kind of guy.

The above is, of course, completely influenced by my own view of each of these games.
Title: The D&D (and OSR) family
Post by: Just Another Snake Cult on October 11, 2015, 08:12:15 PM
I heard a rumor that DCC is a swinger and owns the Midwest's largest collection of Planet of the Apes memorabilia.
Title: The D&D (and OSR) family
Post by: AsenRG on October 11, 2015, 08:15:20 PM
Scarlet Heroes is the guy who likes to travel in wild places in Southeastern Asia, by himself, and is tough enough to handle it.
But it's a great guy to trade stories with when other people are cutting you off. He likes loners, because he is one at heart.
Title: The D&D (and OSR) family
Post by: Gronan of Simmerya on October 11, 2015, 08:24:43 PM
OD&D is getting out the hose and telling all you little bastards to get the fuck off his lawn.
Title: The D&D (and OSR) family
Post by: The Butcher on October 11, 2015, 08:27:46 PM
Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;859635OD&D is getting out the hose and telling all you little bastards to get the fuck off his lawn.

Daaaad! Grampa's having one of his fits again!

;)
Title: The D&D (and OSR) family
Post by: Ddogwood on October 11, 2015, 10:54:28 PM
Pathfinder is one of 3e's illegitimate kids, born right after a messy divorce from Auntie Paizo. He's good looking and successful, but has a streak of OCD that makes grandpa 1e look laid back by comparison. Pathfinder talks trash about his cousins, especially 5e. People either love him or hate him.

Dungeon World is an adopted kid. They say he's not actually related to the rest of the family, but damn if he doesn't have a lot of great grandpa's mannerisms.
Title: The D&D (and OSR) family
Post by: Batman on October 12, 2015, 02:15:54 AM
Quote4e is your League of Legends-addicted cousin on Ritalin. He's not a bad kid, just... broadcasting on a different frequency.*

I appreciate that you used LoL instead of another game that gets bantered about..

Like the analogy
Title: The D&D (and OSR) family
Post by: The Butcher on October 12, 2015, 07:28:42 AM
Quote from: Batman;859667I appreciate that you used LoL instead of another game that gets bantered about..

Like the analogy

Your uncles will try to bond by asking about World of Warcraft and going "I used to play a Paladin too" and the kid will just roll his eyes.

Again, betraying my biases. Firmly casual WoW player here.
Title: The D&D (and OSR) family
Post by: AsenRG on October 12, 2015, 09:15:40 AM
Silent Legions is, some believe, a hybrid. They say she wasn't born naturally, but by mixing artificially the DNA of one of the elders with uncle CoC's contributions.
She's more free-wheeling than CoC and technically less likely to drive you mad, but they both make you feel powerless when you play at family gatherings, unless you make some special arrangements before the game even starts.
Title: The D&D (and OSR) family
Post by: Phillip on October 12, 2015, 01:28:07 PM
Arduin is the West Coast cousin who was doing EVERYTHING before it was a thing, from curmudgeonly to avant-garde, published with sheer brio decades before the OGL safety net. Older than AD&D*, more mechanically baroque than Eldritch Wizardry, more powered-up than 4E, at least as bloody as RoleMaster, the original patron of Erol Otus (and Michio Okamura among others).


*The original trilogy was published 1977-78, the AD&D DMG not until 1979.
Title: The D&D (and OSR) family
Post by: thedungeondelver on October 12, 2015, 01:28:49 PM
Hackmaster is the red-headed stepkid that looks a lot like grandpa 1e, adopted a lot of his mannerisms, and yet during family get-togethers does nothing but go on about his collection of Mad Magazines.
Title: The D&D (and OSR) family
Post by: Gronan of Simmerya on October 12, 2015, 01:37:26 PM
Quote from: Phillip;859703*The original trilogy was published 1977-78, the AD&D DMG not until 1979.

Bah.  Young punks.
Title: The D&D (and OSR) family
Post by: The Butcher on October 12, 2015, 01:58:42 PM
Quote from: AsenRG;859678Silent Legions is, some believe, a hybrid. They say she wasn't born naturally, but by mixing artificially the DNA of one of the elders with uncle CoC's contributions.

I wouldn't go so far as to suggest she was born in a test-tube. But there's definitely something fishy about her parentage.

I'm told her unusual looks are very common in her hometown back in Massachusetts.
Title: The D&D (and OSR) family
Post by: The Butcher on October 12, 2015, 02:01:05 PM
Quote from: thedungeondelver;859704Hackmaster is the red-headed stepkid that looks a lot like grandpa 1e, adopted a lot of his mannerisms, and yet during family get-togethers does nothing but go on about his collection of Mad Magazines.

Yeah, the one and same. That kid (and I use the term loosely, he's older than C&C and OSRIC) is retarded.
Title: The D&D (and OSR) family
Post by: Christopher Brady on October 12, 2015, 02:54:57 PM
*Takes notes*
Title: The D&D (and OSR) family
Post by: Thondor on October 12, 2015, 09:36:32 PM
Quote from: thedungeondelver;859704Hackmaster is the red-headed stepkid that looks a lot like grandpa 1e, adopted a lot of his mannerisms, and yet during family get-togethers does nothing but go on about his collection of Mad Magazines.

Wait . . . what does that make Hackmaster 5e? (I assume you meant 4th which is very close to 1e, while 5e is really quiet different.)

Also loving all the analogies.
Title: The D&D (and OSR) family
Post by: thedungeondelver on October 12, 2015, 11:07:35 PM
Quote from: Thondor;859771Wait . . . what does that make Hackmaster 5e? (I assume you meant 4th which is very close to 1e, while 5e is really quiet different.)

Also loving all the analogies.

The same, but Cracked magazine.
Title: The D&D (and OSR) family
Post by: Kyle Aaron on October 13, 2015, 02:12:18 AM
RuneQuest is the nephew who did an anthropology degree but never got an academic job.

Cthulhu is the creepy uncle who wants to show you his very, very disturbing etchings.

World of Synnibar is the cousin who popped acid and got stuck there.
Title: The D&D (and OSR) family
Post by: Thondor on October 13, 2015, 03:10:09 PM
Quote from: thedungeondelver;859780The same, but Cracked magazine.

Hmmm, I would go with:

Hackmaster 5e is that nerdy cousin who you're pretty sure has a superiority complex (but maybe he's trying to be funny . . .) He has long discussions with grandpa 1e that always end in arguments. The rest of the family leaves him alone a lot because he's OCD about counting everything.
He never talks about his big brother Hackmaster 4e other than to call him a clown.
Title: The D&D (and OSR) family
Post by: AsenRG on October 13, 2015, 06:43:59 PM
Quote from: Kyle Aaron;859801RuneQuest is the nephew who did an anthropology degree but never got an academic job.
Rather, RuneQuest is someone with an anthropology degree who's doing his best to make his job sound fun at family gatherings. But some people are weirded out at the ease with which the stories of the people he's working on talk about death and dismemberment.
To these people, he tends to give a "Get Out Of Jail Free" card.
Title: The D&D (and OSR) family
Post by: King Truffle IV on October 14, 2015, 12:01:32 AM
Great & Small (see my sig) is the crazy cat lady aunt who talks to her pets and is convinced they talk back to her... and can't seem to tell the difference between you and them.

She also harbors simplistic notions about the world, and doesn't think ranking people and animals by their inherent "Strength" or "Intelligence" is terribly fair.

But she does make good pie.
Title: The D&D (and OSR) family
Post by: The Butcher on October 14, 2015, 07:42:21 AM
Quote from: Kyle Aaron;859801RuneQuest is the nephew who did an anthropology degree but never got an academic job.

Cthulhu is the creepy uncle who wants to show you his very, very disturbing etchings.

The BRP family is a funny lot.

Everybody in the CoC branch looks exactly the same, except that weird 7e kid. Flings with the D&D family have given birth to CoC d20 (with 3e) and Silent Legions (with SWN).

While I think their daughter RQ6 is smokin' hot, I'm on very good terms with Stormbringer, the aging metalhead cousin to the RQ branch. His kids Openquest and Magic World are okay I guess.

There's this rumor 1e and RQ2 had a kid named Palladium, but neither side admits it and the kid's since gone off on his own.
Title: The D&D (and OSR) family
Post by: Warthur on October 14, 2015, 08:27:12 AM
Castles and Crusades is a medieval history professor. At first we thought his pedantry might have been an attempt to ingratiate himself to 1E, until at one family gathering 1E finally extricated himself from one of C&C's little lectures, wiped his brow, and said "Whew - and I thought I was a perfectionist!"
Title: The D&D (and OSR) family
Post by: tenbones on October 15, 2015, 02:54:14 PM
Fantasy Craft is the mad-scientist uncle. Like Rick from "Rick & Morty".

constantly screwing with the DNA until something happens.
Title: The D&D (and OSR) family
Post by: Premier on October 15, 2015, 08:07:07 PM
Other Dust is the kid who wears a leather jacket, worn jeans and makes a yearly ritual out of watching Mad Max: The Road Warrior.

Gamma World is Other Dust's weird dad who makes a yearly ritual out of watching Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome, immediately followed by Attack of the Killer Tomatoes! while high and boozed up.
Title: The D&D (and OSR) family
Post by: ArrozConLeche on October 19, 2015, 01:58:55 PM
Quote from: The Butcher;859937Stormbringer, the aging metalhead cousin to the RQ branch. His kids Openquest and Magic World are okay I guess.

Is Openquest a direct descendant of Stormbringer rather than RQ? I got Magic World because I couldn't find Stormbringer or Elric.
Title: The D&D (and OSR) family
Post by: tenbones on October 19, 2015, 02:25:42 PM
Someone needs to put this on a graphic, stat!
Title: The D&D (and OSR) family
Post by: The Butcher on October 19, 2015, 06:41:52 PM
Quote from: ArrozConLeche;860796Is Openquest a direct descendant of Stormbringer rather than RQ? I got Magic World because I couldn't find Stormbringer or Elric.

It's got bits from both SB and RQ2/3. Combat mostly takes after SB (no hit locations, major wounds, etc.) but magic boasts Common, Divine and Sorcery lists (still simpler than most editions of RQ, I think). Anyone looking for a leaner version of BRP for fantasy could do a lot worse than look into it. And of course, it's free (http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/127007/OpenQuest-2-Basic-Edition).