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The Collected Pelinore

Started by Kellri, October 31, 2014, 08:46:35 AM

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Gronan of Simmerya

Quote from: Kellri;796955RPG.net, being the cocksmocks that they always are had some back-room discussion and removed the link and locked the thread after a shit-eating public explanation from a mod and not so much as a PM to notify me. Apparently under whatever national laws they operate under I'm guilty of some evil piracy. Thankfully, we have a much more liberal approach to 30 year old OOP magazine articles here in Vietnam.

"Out of Print" does not equal "out of copyright" in the US.

"Following the law to avoid getting sued" does not equal "being a cocksmock."

And "stealing somebody else's intellectual property" does not equal "having a more liberal approach."

"Tongue my pee hole," on the other hand, does equal "welcome to my ignore list, you thieving piece of shit."
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Necrozius

I don't know much about copyright law or anything, but I dunno: would it be possible to get permission from the original publisher and/or writer(s) to distribute this?

I mean, you're not charging money for this, so I can't see the harm, unless this material IS in fact still available somewhere for a price.

Kellri

Quote"Tongue my pee hole," on the other hand, does equal "welcome to my ignore list, you thieving piece of shit."

+1. What's with that repeated insistence on inviting random strangers to perform a sex act on you? I guess I'll just have to wait to buy your book to find out.
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Justin Alexander

Quote from: Kellri;796955Thankfully, we have a much more liberal approach to 30 year old OOP magazine articles here in Vietnam.

It should also be noted that Vietnam has a minimum copyright term of 50 years and the magazine being OOP has no impact on that term.
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S'mon

Speaking as a UK copyright guy:

The material will be in copyright in most countries. Your making it available may be copyright infringing unless it counts as fair use/fair dealing, which I don't think it would be in US or UK.

If the material was created by Imagine magazine employees in the course of their employment then TSR owned the copyrights, so WoTC now. Otherwise the contributors likely own the copyrights.
As there is no commercial infringement and probably no loss to WoTC they would probably be currently unable to get damages in the UK, but could in theory get an injunction to stop distribution. American rules are much harsher.

My advice (disclaiming all liability) :D is that while WoTC probably can't practically sue you in Vietnam, if WoTC asked you to remove the file you should do so, mostly as that would be the right thing to do. I somewhat doubt they would do that unless they had plans to put Imagine up on D&D Classics, which I suspect is unlikely. If they did commercially distribute the magazine then your making it available could cause them loss and render you liable.

EOTB

Quote from: Old Geezer;797707"Tongue my pee hole," on the other hand, does equal "welcome to my ignore list, you thieving piece of shit."

Geezer, I don't see where Kellri used either "I was there!", or "I can't remember" anywhere in the document, so there isn't any reason to get upset because all of your IP is actually safe.
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Quote from: EOTB;797902Geezer, I don't see where Kellri used either "I was there!", or "I can't remember" anywhere in the document, so there isn't any reason to get upset because all of your IP is actually safe.

It's reasonable to get upset at someone's cavalier attitude to other people's IP.  But there's an unfortunate gulf between available and out of copyright, and I'm not going to be as harsh to someone who's willing to take on the potential liability to make things like that available.

Kellri

It's all my fault. A week or so ago on Facebook someone posted the photo of the Christmas Tree/Buttplug art installation and the Old Geezer chimed in that he was shocked (!) to discover what a buttplug was. I responded that it was deliciously hilarious that a man who maintains a public 'tongue my peehole' list has never, in fact, actually heard of a buttplug before. He was not amused. Apparently that stuck in his craw like a bowl of bad dates and given my previous record of showing little to no respect for his 'I was there, I know, just make shit up' line of folderol, he felt compelled to respond. This is not a man who is really and truly deeply offended by the very hint of IP infringement. This is a guy who runs around Garycon handing out his name cards to strangers in the forlorn hope of drumming up some business for his collection of pathetic anecdotes and hot air. I apologize. When I used the word 'cocksmock' I should have specifically named Old Geezer and then added the words 'pathetic old cunt'.
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S'mon

Quote from: EOTB;797902Geezer, I don't see where Kellri used either "I was there!", or "I can't remember" anywhere in the document, so there isn't any reason to get upset because all of your IP is actually safe.

I thought this was very funny BTW. Pity therpgsite has no XP system.

Lord Hobie

Quote from: S'mon;798260I thought this was very funny BTW. Pity therpgsite has no XP system.

+1

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Kellri

Here's the first two of the re-mastered Pelinore 1e AD&D modules from Gamemaster Publications #3 & #4, In Search of New Gods by Paul Cockburn and The Awakening by Simon Forrest. In the latter case, all of the maps have been redone and additional DM references and handouts have been included.

In Search of New Gods is for a party levels 4-7. It is a fairly straightforward outdoor adventure in the City League, County Cerwyn, and the Lands of the Priest Kings. The Domains are in the midst of turmoil after a cult of "new gods" has begun to usurp the power of the old. The PCs must race to find the reasons behind this and stop it at the behest of the old gods.

The Awakening is for a party of levels 7-8. It is an EPIC underground adventure in the vein of D1-2 Descent Into the Depths of the Earth. The party must explore a forgotten Dwarven delve that has been occupied by an army of Duergar and stop their foolhardy attempt to re-awaken an ancient elemental spirit.

In Search of New Gods.pdf
51pp
5.89mb

The Awakening.pdf
83pp
19.3mb
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TheShadow

Downloaded those two thanks Kellri...is there still more to come??
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Rincewind1

I see they shared artistic department with WFRP, is this a coincidence or was it also a British setting?
Furthermore, I consider that  This is Why We Don\'t Like You thread should be closed

Akrasia

Quote from: Rincewind1;799697I see they shared artistic department with WFRP, is this a coincidence or was it also a British setting?

Pelinore was the UK TSR's home setting (for their short-lived Imagine magazine).
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