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Title: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: RPGPundit on February 05, 2024, 10:59:01 AM
The Alexandrian has always been garbage. He has repeatedly made accusations he knew were completely false about me. Now, I'm very pleased to see that he's been caught stealing the ideas of the now deceased Paul/Jenelle Jacquays and renaming them for himself.  He even went back and renamed them in retroactive edits of his blog, apparently. to "Xandering" instead of Jacquaying. And he's invented a bunch of bullshit excuses worthy of a grave-robber to try to justify himself.

Note: Sorry for the video being by Dungeons and Discourse, who is almost utterly unbearable to watch, and actually tries to mitigate/take the Alexandrian's side at the very end (of course, he's still a leftist cunt so it must be mitigated), but it was still the best overall telling of the whole sordid turn of events.



Except to add that Jacquays' widow has now come out and called the Alexandrian on a lie again (this time he was implying that he had the widow's support):

(https://i.redd.it/7cy3t0quanfc1.jpeg)


So yes, after this useless bitch who never added an original thought to the hobby relentlessly tried to have me cancelled, the schadenfreude is sweet.
Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: King Tyranno on February 05, 2024, 02:46:02 PM
Diversity and Discourse is too mentally ill to realize just how bad it looks for him to try to mitigate this drama. I think it's absolutely fine to use other people's ideas so long as you credit them. To actively try to obfuscate something someone else did is, especially someone who contributed a lot to RPGs as we know them, is nakedly awful. To abet that by even trying to downplay it is so obviously morally bankrupt only the type of person Diversity and Discourse is could ever do that. It's not something someone who's all there does. Even if you're actually being dodgy there should at least be an attempt to hide the wrong doing. This is such a weird video. All these people are massive cunts. 
Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: THE_Leopold on February 05, 2024, 02:49:25 PM
QuoteDiversity and Discourse, who is almost utterly unbearable to watch


Had to read that name a few times as i thought you were talking about Diversity and DRAGONS. 

The blog post where ole Xander is trying to retcon the name is goddamn minefield and he is getting shit on from ALL sides.  Fuck this guy.

This is why you NEVER kowtow to these lunatics, never aquiesce, and stick to your guns when they start calling you all the *ists and *phobes on the planet.
Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: S'mon on February 05, 2024, 02:53:27 PM
I'm just going through his latest https://thealexandrian.net/wordpress/50588/site-news/a-second-historical-note-on-xandering-the-dungeon

I think even Justin's supporters would admit that he can be a bit of a dick. I guess my own feeling is that he is both genuinely talented and incredibly full of himself. I think his arrogance in this case has taken him to a position here where he could uncharitably be described as a "lying thieving shit".  I wouldn't exactly go so far. I think a combination of issues including him being a leftist douchebag and an insufferable prick (who has written some good stuff!) has combined with Jaquays' holy cow status as a deceased trans ex-man, has got Alexander in fairly well deserved trouble.

I have to say this somewhere: I kind of like Paul Jaquays' stuff, though there wasn't enough treasure in Thracia, the design was good. He was a very typical '70s horny Judges Guild D&D guy, with big breasted barbarians making frequent appearances in his work. The idea that he was 'always a girl on the inside', as opposed to an Aspergery Autogynephile, is completely laughable. At least he stuck with his long-suffering wife.
Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: S'mon on February 05, 2024, 02:57:26 PM
Quote from: THE_Leopold on February 05, 2024, 02:49:25 PM
QuoteDiversity and Discourse, who is almost utterly unbearable to watch

Had to read that name a few times as i thought you were talking about Diversity and DRAGONS. 


I believe they are (attempting to) talk about the "Dungeons & Discourse" Youtuber, who is a left wing female Warhammer fan from (and in) Northern Ireland. Her family are IRA supporting Catholics, mine are conservative anti-IRA Ulster Unionists, but I still watch her sometimes for the familiar accent.  ;D
Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: King Tyranno on February 05, 2024, 03:03:54 PM
Quote from: S'mon on February 05, 2024, 02:57:26 PM
Quote from: THE_Leopold on February 05, 2024, 02:49:25 PM
QuoteDiversity and Discourse, who is almost utterly unbearable to watch

Had to read that name a few times as i thought you were talking about Diversity and DRAGONS. 


I believe they are (attempting to) talk about the "Dungeons & Discourse" Youtuber, who is a left wing female Warhammer fan from Northern Ireland. Her family are IRA supporting Catholics, mine are conservative anti-IRA Ulster Unionists, but I still watch her sometimes for the familiar accent.  ;D

Dungeons & Discourse is a Person of Gender. Not a woman. This should be obvious just from looking at him. Then he opens his mouth and his very male voice should be the biggest clue.
Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: Grognard GM on February 05, 2024, 03:05:06 PM
Quote from: S'mon on February 05, 2024, 02:53:27 PMAt least he stuck with his long-suffering wife.

Nope, divorced 2011. The 'Lesbian' wife is mkII.
Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: S'mon on February 05, 2024, 03:05:32 PM
Quote from: King Tyranno on February 05, 2024, 03:03:54 PM
Dungeons & Discourse is a Person of Gender. Not a woman. This should be obvious just from looking at him.

I'm pretty sure she's just homely.
Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: King Tyranno on February 05, 2024, 03:07:15 PM
Quote from: S'mon on February 05, 2024, 03:05:32 PM
Quote from: King Tyranno on February 05, 2024, 03:03:54 PM
Dungeons & Discourse is a Person of Gender. Not a woman. This should be obvious just from looking at him.

I'm pretty sure she's just homely.

No dude. That's a man. Women do not look and more importantly sound like that. I've no idea why this is even being discussed. It's so obvious it should go without saying. You can even see his five o'clock shadow beneath the bad foundation he cakes himself in.
Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: S'mon on February 05, 2024, 03:07:25 PM
Quote from: Grognard GM on February 05, 2024, 03:05:06 PM
Quote from: S'mon on February 05, 2024, 02:53:27 PMAt least he stuck with his long-suffering wife.

Nope, divorced 2011. The 'Lesbian' wife is mkII.

Oh. I guess I wasn't following closely enough.  :-[
Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: S'mon on February 05, 2024, 03:08:17 PM
Quote from: King Tyranno on February 05, 2024, 03:07:15 PM
Quote from: S'mon on February 05, 2024, 03:05:32 PM
Quote from: King Tyranno on February 05, 2024, 03:03:54 PM
Dungeons & Discourse is a Person of Gender. Not a woman. This should be obvious just from looking at him.

I'm pretty sure she's just homely.

No dude. That's a man. Women do not look and more importantly sound like that. I've no idea why this is even being discussed. It's so obvious it should go without saying.

Does anyone else think she's a man?  :o She seems a pretty typical Belfast nerd girl to me.
Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: Zalman on February 05, 2024, 03:11:26 PM
Quote from: S'mon on February 05, 2024, 03:08:17 PM
Does anyone else think she's a man?

Nah, not manly at all. Tyranno should get his hearing checked.
Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: S'mon on February 05, 2024, 03:20:00 PM
Quote from: Zalman on February 05, 2024, 03:11:26 PM
Nah, not manly at all. Tyranno should get his hearing checked.

I've occasionally been fooled by a trans while scrolling eHarmony for long enough to send them a 'like'  ;D, but Discourse doesn't seem male at all to me. Obviously she's more masculine than the average woman, but less so than my ex wife (who had an ovarian cyst leading to excessive testosterone), and nothing like any ex-man trans I ever saw.
Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: Brad on February 05, 2024, 03:21:04 PM
Quote from: Zalman on February 05, 2024, 03:11:26 PM
Quote from: S'mon on February 05, 2024, 03:08:17 PM
Does anyone else think she's a man?

Nah, not manly at all. Tyranno should get his hearing checked.

I thought that was a dude...
Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: rytrasmi on February 05, 2024, 03:28:04 PM
Do we really need a 3rd thread for this squabble?

I only made it a minute into that video. The combination of that voice and the smarmy dirt digger youtube trash presentation is vomit inducing. Christ people have some standards.
Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: RPGPundit on February 05, 2024, 03:53:21 PM
Quote from: THE_Leopold on February 05, 2024, 02:49:25 PM
QuoteDiversity and Discourse, who is almost utterly unbearable to watch


Had to read that name a few times as i thought you were talking about Diversity and DRAGONS. 

The blog post where ole Xander is trying to retcon the name is goddamn minefield and he is getting shit on from ALL sides.  Fuck this guy.

This is why you NEVER kowtow to these lunatics, never aquiesce, and stick to your guns when they start calling you all the *ists and *phobes on the planet.

Yeah, that's my fault: in the first post I wrote 'diversity & discourse' when I meant to write "Dungeons & Discourse". Corrected it now.
Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: RPGPundit on February 05, 2024, 03:56:52 PM
Quote from: rytrasmi on February 05, 2024, 03:28:04 PM
Do we really need a 3rd thread for this squabble?

I only made it a minute into that video. The combination of that voice and the smarmy dirt digger youtube trash presentation is vomit inducing. Christ people have some standards.

Well, this one is a personal revenge thread. "The alexandrian" spent years making completely false allegations against me and trying to have me ruined; the fact that he was as incompetent at that as he is with anything else notwithstanding, it's great to see it finally revealed that most of his schtick is to talk about ideas OTHER PEOPLE came up with, and then claim them as his own. In this case, even going so far as going back and altering his older blog posts.
Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: S'mon on February 05, 2024, 04:11:48 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit on February 05, 2024, 03:56:52 PM
Well, this one is a personal revenge thread. "The alexandrian" spent years making completely false allegations against me and trying to have me ruined

I actually can't remember this, just him being a massive prat. Did he originate allegations against you, or just echo stuff from the usual mob?
Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: THE_Leopold on February 05, 2024, 04:35:19 PM
Quote from: S'mon on February 05, 2024, 04:11:48 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit on February 05, 2024, 03:56:52 PM
Well, this one is a personal revenge thread. "The alexandrian" spent years making completely false allegations against me and trying to have me ruined

I actually can't remember this, just him being a massive prat. Did he originate allegations against you, or just echo stuff from the usual mob?

His rainbow OSR shirt should tell you everything you need to know about him.

Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: Anon Adderlan on February 05, 2024, 08:10:09 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit on February 05, 2024, 10:59:01 AM
Sorry for the video being by Dungeons and Discourse, who is almost utterly unbearable to watch,

Still burning bridges before they've even been built I see.
Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: yosemitemike on February 05, 2024, 09:18:26 PM
Sorry but I'm not sitting through a Dungeons & Discourse video.
Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: Socratic-DM on February 05, 2024, 09:53:55 PM
I don't use twitter, I have to much self respect to waste brain cells for that, that said I've browsed the Alexandrian blog a couple times, nothing ever blew my socks off but I did copy most of his hex crawling procedures which I find useful.

Otherwise this is a nothing burger for me, but I sure won't be visiting his blog ever again.
Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: Mistwell on February 05, 2024, 10:08:13 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit on February 05, 2024, 10:59:01 AM
The Alexandrian has always been garbage. He has repeatedly made accusations he knew were completely false about me. Now, I'm very pleased to see that he's been caught stealing the ideas of the now deceased Paul/Jenelle Jacquays and renaming them for himself.  He even went back and renamed them in retroactive edits of his blog, apparently. to "Xandering" instead of Jacquaying. And he's invented a bunch of bullshit excuses worthy of a grave-robber to try to justify himself.

Note: Sorry for the video being by Dungeons and Discourse, who is almost utterly unbearable to watch, and actually tries to mitigate/take the Alexandrian's side at the very end (of course, he's still a leftist cunt so it must be mitigated), but it was still the best overall telling of the whole sordid turn of events.



Except to add that Jacquays' widow has now come out and called the Alexandrian on a lie again (this time he was implying that he had the widow's support):

(https://i.redd.it/7cy3t0quanfc1.jpeg)


So yes, after this useless bitch who never added an original thought to the hobby relentlessly tried to have me cancelled, the schadenfreude is sweet.

I am 100% with you on this one.
Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: Kyle Aaron on February 05, 2024, 10:14:41 PM
What is this bollocks? What mongoloid drivel am I being asked to watch? I prefer to keep my drama within the gaming session.

I suppose that's why I got banned all those years ago from rpg.net.
Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: daniel_ream on February 05, 2024, 11:50:44 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit on February 05, 2024, 10:59:01 AM
Note: Sorry for the video being by Dungeons and Discourse, who is almost utterly unbearable to watch, and actually tries to mitigate/take the Alexandrian's side at the very end (of course, he's still a leftist cunt so it must be mitigated), but it was still the best overall telling of the whole sordid turn of events.

Except to add that Jacquays' widow has now come out and called the Alexandrian on a lie again (this time he was implying that he had the widow's support):

(https://i.imgur.com/zNH0S5U.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: DocJones on February 06, 2024, 12:44:12 PM
Doesn't both original and revised blog post mention and credit Jaquays four times?

Also doesn't Arneson's "Blackmoor Castle" written before exhibit everything he credits Jaquays with?

Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: Svenhelgrim on February 06, 2024, 01:01:36 PM
Quote from: DocJones on February 06, 2024, 12:44:12 PM
Doesn't both original and revised blog post mention and credit Jaquays four times?

Also doesn't Arneson's "Blackmoor Castle" written before exhibit everything he credits Jaquays with?
So we should be saying "Arnesoniing" the dungeon?  Not to be confused with "Arson" which is what the players do to the dungeon when they have killed and looted everything.
Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: RPGPundit on February 06, 2024, 01:02:15 PM
Quote from: S'mon on February 05, 2024, 04:11:48 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit on February 05, 2024, 03:56:52 PM
Well, this one is a personal revenge thread. "The alexandrian" spent years making completely false allegations against me and trying to have me ruined

I actually can't remember this, just him being a massive prat. Did he originate allegations against you, or just echo stuff from the usual mob?

He started it on G+ if I remember correctly, but he repeated it everywhere, including here on theRPGsite, and on twitter. Here for example: https://twitter.com/hexcrawl/status/1044402500089131008?lang=en (https://twitter.com/hexcrawl/status/1044402500089131008?lang=en)

Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: Ruprecht on February 06, 2024, 01:18:22 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit on February 06, 2024, 01:02:15 PM
He started it on G+ if I remember correctly, but he repeated it everywhere, including here on theRPGsite, and on twitter. Here for example: https://twitter.com/hexcrawl/status/1044402500089131008?lang=en (https://twitter.com/hexcrawl/status/1044402500089131008?lang=en)
That tweet is funny because the obvious thing to do in such a tweet would be to include a link or screenshot to where RPGPundit self-identifies as a White Supremacist. Without that it comes off as hot air and false bravado.
Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: S'mon on February 06, 2024, 01:58:29 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit on February 06, 2024, 01:02:15 PM
He started it on G+ if I remember correctly, but he repeated it everywhere, including here on theRPGsite, and on twitter. Here for example: https://twitter.com/hexcrawl/status/1044402500089131008?lang=en (https://twitter.com/hexcrawl/status/1044402500089131008?lang=en)

Cheers.
Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: tenbones on February 06, 2024, 02:57:27 PM
It's funny, I don't think Justin did anything wrong.

That said - he's been nothing but a raging dick to me on this forum (and a couple of others) for no reason I can ascertain. We even agree on a lot of GMing principles, which oddly are the threads where he's always attacked me. It's fucking weird.

Never liked the guy personally, but I'll call strikes and balls as I see them. He often, not always, has good GMing advice. His personality comes across like that of fetid dickcheese.

I always thought Discourse and Dragons was a man in drag, there were times I questioned it. Then I realized I didn't care.

Edit: the shit he said about Pundit - that's just fucking wrong.
Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: Ratman_tf on February 06, 2024, 03:04:36 PM
Quote from: DocJones on February 06, 2024, 12:44:12 PM
Doesn't both original and revised blog post mention and credit Jaquays four times?

Also doesn't Arneson's "Blackmoor Castle" written before exhibit everything he credits Jaquays with?

Most "old school" dungeons exhibit this. Multiple entrance/exists, complex looping patterns. The idea didn't originate with Jaquays. The term was coined by the Alexandrian and named after Jaquays as an example. Not the example.

But people seem to have conveniently forgotten that in their rush to outrage.
Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: Steven Mitchell on February 06, 2024, 03:27:21 PM
Quote from: tenbones on February 06, 2024, 02:57:27 PM
It's funny, I don't think Justin did anything wrong.

That said - he's been nothing but a raging dick to me on this forum (and a couple of others) for no reason I can ascertain. We even agree on a lot of GMing principles, which oddly are the threads where he's always attacked me. It's fucking weird.


He's to gaming what Joseph Campbell is to myth:  Someone that has taken some rather minor ideas that a lot of people got independently and tried to spin them into central, important insights.  People that agree with his "ideas" but don't become part of his cult, are a threat to the mystique.  The only difference being, that as near as I can make out, Campbell didn't do the dick part himself, but farmed that out to his sycophants.  Though it was a more reserved time, and maybe behind the facade it was all the same.   
Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: Ruprecht on February 06, 2024, 04:27:03 PM
Quote from: tenbones on February 06, 2024, 02:57:27 PM
I always thought Discourse and Dragons was a man in drag, there were times I questioned it.
I never questioned Discourse and Dragons was a woman. Trans people will generally share that they are trans either in words or pronouns. Discourse and Dragons seems to keep her personal business to herself.
However, I'd always thought she was doing some kind of 40s radio announcer voice.
Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: RNGm on February 06, 2024, 07:42:27 PM
Quote from: Ruprecht on February 06, 2024, 04:27:03 PM
Quote from: tenbones on February 06, 2024, 02:57:27 PM
I always thought Discourse and Dragons was a man in drag, there were times I questioned it.
I never questioned Discourse and Dragons was a woman. Trans people will generally share that they are trans either in words or pronouns. Discourse and Dragons seems to keep her personal business to herself.
However, I'd always thought she was doing some kind of 40s radio announcer voice.

Her annoying nasally thickly accented voice is in large part an exaggerated bit on her part likely for "branding".  If you scroll WAAAAY back on her videos back to when she was a primarily Batman minis games channel, she actually sounds like a normal Irish lass.  It's only when she switched to being the Siren of DOOOOM!!!! for D&D and 40k that her schtick changed.
Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: Ratman_tf on February 06, 2024, 07:45:50 PM
Quote from: RNGm on February 06, 2024, 07:42:27 PM
Quote from: Ruprecht on February 06, 2024, 04:27:03 PM
Quote from: tenbones on February 06, 2024, 02:57:27 PM
I always thought Discourse and Dragons was a man in drag, there were times I questioned it.
I never questioned Discourse and Dragons was a woman. Trans people will generally share that they are trans either in words or pronouns. Discourse and Dragons seems to keep her personal business to herself.
However, I'd always thought she was doing some kind of 40s radio announcer voice.

Her annoying nasally thickly accented voice is in large part an exaggerated bit on her part likely for "branding".  If you scroll WAAAAY back on her videos back to when she was a primarily Batman minis games channel, she actually sounds like a normal Irish lass.  It's only when she switched to being the Siren of DOOOOM!!!! for D&D and 40k that her schtick changed.

What makes her videos palatable to me is that it's obviously hyperbole and she jokes around about it.
Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: RPGPundit on February 06, 2024, 10:14:30 PM
Quote from: tenbones on February 06, 2024, 02:57:27 PM
It's funny, I don't think Justin did anything wrong.

That said - he's been nothing but a raging dick to me on this forum (and a couple of others) for no reason I can ascertain. We even agree on a lot of GMing principles, which oddly are the threads where he's always attacked me. It's fucking weird.

Never liked the guy personally, but I'll call strikes and balls as I see them. He often, not always, has good GMing advice. His personality comes across like that of fetid dickcheese.

I always thought Discourse and Dragons was a man in drag, there were times I questioned it. Then I realized I didn't care.

Edit: the shit he said about Pundit - that's just fucking wrong.

A lot of his "good gaming advice" is stuff he's credited himself for that he stole from other sources. Like Janelle Jacquays. He has little or no authentic talent.
Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: RPGPundit on February 06, 2024, 10:15:49 PM
Quote from: Ratman_tf on February 06, 2024, 03:04:36 PM
Quote from: DocJones on February 06, 2024, 12:44:12 PM
Doesn't both original and revised blog post mention and credit Jaquays four times?

Also doesn't Arneson's "Blackmoor Castle" written before exhibit everything he credits Jaquays with?

Most "old school" dungeons exhibit this. Multiple entrance/exists, complex looping patterns. The idea didn't originate with Jaquays. The term was coined by the Alexandrian and named after Jaquays as an example. Not the example.

But people seem to have conveniently forgotten that in their rush to outrage.


I mean, if you look at Tonisborg, it has multiple entries and exits, complex stair patterns, sections of a given level that can only be accessed from a level above or below, and all the rest. And it was designed before the original D&D box came out.
Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: RPGPundit on February 06, 2024, 10:17:23 PM
Quote from: Ratman_tf on February 06, 2024, 07:45:50 PM
Quote from: RNGm on February 06, 2024, 07:42:27 PM
Quote from: Ruprecht on February 06, 2024, 04:27:03 PM
Quote from: tenbones on February 06, 2024, 02:57:27 PM
I always thought Discourse and Dragons was a man in drag, there were times I questioned it.
I never questioned Discourse and Dragons was a woman. Trans people will generally share that they are trans either in words or pronouns. Discourse and Dragons seems to keep her personal business to herself.
However, I'd always thought she was doing some kind of 40s radio announcer voice.

Her annoying nasally thickly accented voice is in large part an exaggerated bit on her part likely for "branding".  If you scroll WAAAAY back on her videos back to when she was a primarily Batman minis games channel, she actually sounds like a normal Irish lass.  It's only when she switched to being the Siren of DOOOOM!!!! for D&D and 40k that her schtick changed.

What makes her videos palatable to me is that it's obviously hyperbole and she jokes around about it.

Yes, there is that at least, but the downside to that is that every video she does seems like an audition tape for the Daily Show, with all the pretentious unbearableness that implies.
Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: S'mon on February 07, 2024, 07:08:43 AM
Quote from: RPGPundit on February 06, 2024, 10:14:30 PM
A lot of his "good gaming advice" is stuff he's credited himself for that he stole from other sources. Like Janelle Jacquays. He has little or no authentic talent.

It's not the concepts, it's the presentation.
Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: Fheredin on February 07, 2024, 08:16:37 AM
Quote from: tenbones on February 06, 2024, 02:57:27 PM
It's funny, I don't think Justin did anything wrong.

That said - he's been nothing but a raging dick to me on this forum (and a couple of others) for no reason I can ascertain. We even agree on a lot of GMing principles, which oddly are the threads where he's always attacked me. It's fucking weird.

Never liked the guy personally, but I'll call strikes and balls as I see them. He often, not always, has good GMing advice. His personality comes across like that of fetid dickcheese.

I always thought Discourse and Dragons was a man in drag, there were times I questioned it. Then I realized I didn't care.

Edit: the shit he said about Pundit - that's just fucking wrong.

My thoughts as well. The Alexandrian has some good GMing advice, and it really doesn't matter how much of it is original because compiling it is the important part. I think he tends to encourage taking good ideas too far, but I kind of understand a logic to it. When you're teaching a new skill, taking things too far is often a good way to embed the habit.

That said, Alexandrian has definitely engaged in some drive-by virtue signalling. In more public places I will defend him from this most recent controversy because I am a perennial rights of the accused advocate, and I don't have to like or agree with people to see that the community is better off if someone plays the part of the indestructible wet blanket. At the same time, the whole "Jaquasing" non-controversy and Alexandrian's crap aimed at Pundit are both drive-by character assassination campaigns. I can't help but see poetic justice in this.
Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: Svenhelgrim on February 07, 2024, 04:28:22 PM
Quote from: S'mon on February 06, 2024, 01:58:29 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit on February 06, 2024, 01:02:15 PM
He started it on G+ if I remember correctly, but he repeated it everywhere, including here on theRPGsite, and on twitter. Here for example: https://twitter.com/hexcrawl/status/1044402500089131008?lang=en (https://twitter.com/hexcrawl/status/1044402500089131008?lang=en)

Cheers.

I used to read this guy's (Alexander's) blog and I like what he wrote.  I am really saddened to see that he is a slanderer.  I won't be wasting my time or money on Justin Alexander in the future.  Thanks for the heads up!
Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: Shipyard Locked on February 07, 2024, 05:01:35 PM
Quote from: Svenhelgrim on February 07, 2024, 04:28:22 PM
I used to read this guy's (Alexander's) blog and I like what he wrote.  I am really saddened to see that he is a slanderer.  I won't be wasting my time or money on Justin Alexander in the future.  Thanks for the heads up!

Bad people can give good advice. I mean, that's what this site is all about.  ;)
Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: Anon Adderlan on February 08, 2024, 05:20:17 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit on February 06, 2024, 01:02:15 PM
He started it on G+ if I remember correctly, but he repeated it everywhere, including here on theRPGsite, and on twitter. Here for example: https://twitter.com/hexcrawl/status/1044402500089131008?lang=en (https://twitter.com/hexcrawl/status/1044402500089131008?lang=en)

There's also this (https://archive.is/T0J81)...

QuoteTo be fair, last time his ad hominem campaign included accusing me of being a transphobic time traveler and/or psychic. That was pretty good, but I think he mostly lucked into it. His usual fare is very pedestrian.

...oh the irony.

Quote from: Ruprecht on February 06, 2024, 01:18:22 PM
That tweet is funny because the obvious thing to do in such a tweet would be to include a link or screenshot to where RPGPundit self-identifies as a White Supremacist. Without that it comes off as hot air and false bravado.

Here ya go then (https://archive.is/ZLYo0). I'm honestly surprised they shared it as it clearly exposes their dishonest rhetoric.

And here's the thread (https://twitter.com/KasimirUrbanski/status/1044696346203181057) which is easier to read for context, but impossible to archive. I swear how anyone follows a 'discussion' on #Twitter is beyond me, but I guess that's why things like TwitLonger came into existence.

Quote from: RNGm on February 06, 2024, 07:42:27 PM
Her annoying nasally thickly accented voice is in large part an exaggerated bit on her part likely for "branding".  If you scroll WAAAAY back on her videos back to when she was a primarily Batman minis games channel, she actually sounds like a normal Irish lass.  It's only when she switched to being the Siren of DOOOOM!!!! for D&D and 40k that her schtick changed.

Arch (Warhammer) does the same accent branding.

Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: Orphan81 on February 08, 2024, 05:35:56 PM
I don't know, nor care if Dungeons and Discourses is a bio woman or not.

I do know they're videos on industry news are actually good and tend to be accurate most of the time... and the self depreciating humor they put in their videos is charming.

That said, I do think she downplayed Xander's fuckery down way too much. She should have raked him over the coals a little more.
Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: RNGm on February 08, 2024, 06:54:27 PM
Quote from: Orphan81 on February 08, 2024, 05:35:56 PM
I don't know, nor care if Dungeons and Discourses is a bio woman or not.

I believe the joke is because the OP mistyped the name of the youtube and mistankenly referred to Dungeons and Diversity as Dungeon Discourse which has since been corrected.  I don't think anyone is actually believing that she is not.
Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: daniel_ream on February 08, 2024, 07:03:46 PM
Quote from: RNGm on February 08, 2024, 06:54:27 PM
Quote from: Orphan81 on February 08, 2024, 05:35:56 PM
I don't know, nor care if Dungeons and Discourses is a bio woman or not.

I believe the joke is because the OP mistyped the name of the youtube and mistankenly referred to Dungeons and Diversity as Dungeon Discourse which has since been corrected.  I don't think anyone is actually believing that she is not.

The channel pops up on my Smart TV's YouTube app occasionally and my girlfriend caught a few seconds of the YouTuber screeding in the preview.  The first thing she said was "that's a dude".
Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: S'mon on February 09, 2024, 04:26:03 AM
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I believe the joke is because the OP mistyped the name of the youtube and mistankenly referred to Dungeons and Diversity as Dungeon Discourse which has since been corrected.  I don't think anyone is actually believing that she is not.

I saw Discourse on Twitter commiserating with Matt Colville about all the comments they get about their appearance. They're both just on the ugly side of homely.
Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: tenbones on February 09, 2024, 12:30:02 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit on February 06, 2024, 10:14:30 PM
Quote from: tenbones on February 06, 2024, 02:57:27 PM
It's funny, I don't think Justin did anything wrong.

That said - he's been nothing but a raging dick to me on this forum (and a couple of others) for no reason I can ascertain. We even agree on a lot of GMing principles, which oddly are the threads where he's always attacked me. It's fucking weird.

Never liked the guy personally, but I'll call strikes and balls as I see them. He often, not always, has good GMing advice. His personality comes across like that of fetid dickcheese.

I always thought Discourse and Dragons was a man in drag, there were times I questioned it. Then I realized I didn't care.

Edit: the shit he said about Pundit - that's just fucking wrong.

A lot of his "good gaming advice" is stuff he's credited himself for that he stole from other sources. Like Janelle Jacquays. He has little or no authentic talent.


Here's the thing - you're absolutely right. But "good advice" needs to be repeated until it becomes normal practice. And frankly, he's been out there knabbing all the bits of good advice here and there and repackaging it for consumption. That's not a bad thing. What makes it bad is that we, ourselves, don't do it enough. I intend on rectifying that.

I was quite happy with your recent "debate" - where you were talking about GMing at the level where there is zero intention in controlling what's happening in the game. When the game is driving itself. It's a magic point as a GM when you can get your campaign there. It requires skill that many GM's don't achieve because of focusing on pre-planning, and internal railroading, in order to feel "safe". You were spot on. THAT kind of advice is needed to help people realize what's beyond just running out of the box adventures and as a GM with the right tools, they can get there.

The fact that Justin gets this much credit is no shocking to me. It's just sad that he is the current representative of how to do this thing we do, and he's such a dick. I plan on entering this arena soon. My plans will be more developmental, I make zero pretense on inventing specific techniques, but I do intend on being the first to make a developmental structure that others can use to up their game in scalable fashion. Our hobby *needs* not just GM's, but good GM's. We can leave Justin to wallow in his bullshit outside with the rest of the weirdos.

I fully intend on using the resources on this forum to help formulate and test some these ideas with credit given.

Edit: I still don't give a shit whether Discourse is a man or homely woman. Am I supposed to? Or is it just a topic of mild interest here? Speaking of which my daughter saw me listning to one of her videos and thought she was a man too. My daughter is in the fashion industry and is generally on top of stuff like this... Discourse really perplexed her. Some of you might find that amusing, heh.
Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: Ratman_tf on February 09, 2024, 04:13:47 PM
Quote from: S'mon on February 09, 2024, 04:26:03 AM
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I believe the joke is because the OP mistyped the name of the youtube and mistankenly referred to Dungeons and Diversity as Dungeon Discourse which has since been corrected.  I don't think anyone is actually believing that she is not.

I saw Discourse on Twitter commiserating with Matt Colville about all the comments they get about their appearance. They're both just on the ugly side of homely.

I think media, and now social media, skews our perceptions of reality. Matt Colville and Discourse look more like the men and women I encounter daily in the real world. Both look "normal" to me. (Not counting when Discourse does some cheap joke cosplay, of course)

Regardless, it's an uninteresting off topic tangent. Sometimes this place sounds like a gossipy sewing bee.
Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: Captain_Pazuzu on February 09, 2024, 05:46:30 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit on February 06, 2024, 01:02:15 PM
Quote from: S'mon on February 05, 2024, 04:11:48 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit on February 05, 2024, 03:56:52 PM
Well, this one is a personal revenge thread. "The alexandrian" spent years making completely false allegations against me and trying to have me ruined

I actually can't remember this, just him being a massive prat. Did he originate allegations against you, or just echo stuff from the usual mob?

He started it on G+ if I remember correctly, but he repeated it everywhere, including here on theRPGsite, and on twitter. Here for example: https://twitter.com/hexcrawl/status/1044402500089131008?lang=en (https://twitter.com/hexcrawl/status/1044402500089131008?lang=en)

Had to comment on that one.

No mames.  Este pendejo...
Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: Orphan81 on February 09, 2024, 07:22:45 PM
Quote from: Ratman_tf on February 09, 2024, 04:13:47 PM
Quote from: S'mon on February 09, 2024, 04:26:03 AM
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I believe the joke is because the OP mistyped the name of the youtube and mistankenly referred to Dungeons and Diversity as Dungeon Discourse which has since been corrected.  I don't think anyone is actually believing that she is not.

I saw Discourse on Twitter commiserating with Matt Colville about all the comments they get about their appearance. They're both just on the ugly side of homely.

I think media, and now social media, skews our perceptions of reality. Matt Colville and Discourse look more like the men and women I encounter daily in the real world. Both look "normal" to me. (Not counting when Discourse does some cheap joke cosplay, of course)

Regardless, it's an uninteresting off topic tangent. Sometimes this place sounds like a gossipy sewing bee.

At the end of the day, Dungeons and Discourse is a *Good* Youtube Channel for getting actual gaming news and rumors. There's no politics put into it and the host tells you what's really going on. She's never been a friend of WotC despite being a fan of 5th Edition.
Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: Ratman_tf on February 09, 2024, 08:28:04 PM
Quote from: Orphan81 on February 09, 2024, 07:22:45 PM
Quote from: Ratman_tf on February 09, 2024, 04:13:47 PM
Quote from: S'mon on February 09, 2024, 04:26:03 AM
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I believe the joke is because the OP mistyped the name of the youtube and mistankenly referred to Dungeons and Diversity as Dungeon Discourse which has since been corrected.  I don't think anyone is actually believing that she is not.

I saw Discourse on Twitter commiserating with Matt Colville about all the comments they get about their appearance. They're both just on the ugly side of homely.

I think media, and now social media, skews our perceptions of reality. Matt Colville and Discourse look more like the men and women I encounter daily in the real world. Both look "normal" to me. (Not counting when Discourse does some cheap joke cosplay, of course)

Regardless, it's an uninteresting off topic tangent. Sometimes this place sounds like a gossipy sewing bee.

At the end of the day, Dungeons and Discourse is a *Good* Youtube Channel for getting actual gaming news and rumors. There's no politics put into it

She leans pretty heavily into "corporations bad, people rise up!" I can't tell if it's a joke or a half-joke or a serious take. (Probably all three at different times)

Not that I have any love for shitty corporations that do shitty things, but The Left has soured me on criticism.
Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: daniel_ream on February 09, 2024, 08:38:38 PM
Quote from: Ratman_tf on February 09, 2024, 08:28:04 PM
She leans pretty heavily into "corporations bad, people rise up!" I can't tell if it's a joke or a half-joke or a serious take. (Probably all three at different times)

Permit me to suggest "pandering to her core demographic" as a fourth option. As mcbobbo said elsewhere, D&D is now a lifestyle brand and that brand is aimed at college-aged Left Coast dangerhairs. That demo hasn't just drunk the "corporations bad! Grr!" Kool-Ade, they're mainlining it straight into their veins and peddling it to schoolchildren on street corners.  Outrage Merchant 101 is to stoke the biases and predilections of your audience and rile them up over some imaginary offense.  In the same way that the Critical Drinker pretends that what Disney does with Marvel and Star Wars is Serious. Business., Discourse Minis is pretending that what WotC does on a day-to-day basis actually matters to most D&D players.
Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: BadApple on February 10, 2024, 01:25:13 AM
Quote from: Ratman_tf on February 09, 2024, 08:28:04 PM
Quote from: Orphan81 on February 09, 2024, 07:22:45 PM
Quote from: Ratman_tf on February 09, 2024, 04:13:47 PM
Quote from: S'mon on February 09, 2024, 04:26:03 AM
Quote
I believe the joke is because the OP mistyped the name of the youtube and mistankenly referred to Dungeons and Diversity as Dungeon Discourse which has since been corrected.  I don't think anyone is actually believing that she is not.

I saw Discourse on Twitter commiserating with Matt Colville about all the comments they get about their appearance. They're both just on the ugly side of homely.

I think media, and now social media, skews our perceptions of reality. Matt Colville and Discourse look more like the men and women I encounter daily in the real world. Both look "normal" to me. (Not counting when Discourse does some cheap joke cosplay, of course)

Regardless, it's an uninteresting off topic tangent. Sometimes this place sounds like a gossipy sewing bee.

At the end of the day, Dungeons and Discourse is a *Good* Youtube Channel for getting actual gaming news and rumors. There's no politics put into it

She leans pretty heavily into "corporations bad, people rise up!" I can't tell if it's a joke or a half-joke or a serious take. (Probably all three at different times)

Not that I have any love for shitty corporations that do shitty things, but The Left has soured me on criticism.

Her RL job is a international trade lawyer.  Based on things about her non table top stuff, I think she's more of an anti corruption rather than anti making money.

Who knows though, we only see things through a keyhole with youtubers sometimes.
Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: Omega on February 10, 2024, 04:32:13 AM
Quote from: King Tyranno on February 05, 2024, 03:07:15 PM
Quote from: S'mon on February 05, 2024, 03:05:32 PM
Quote from: King Tyranno on February 05, 2024, 03:03:54 PM
Dungeons & Discourse is a Person of Gender. Not a woman. This should be obvious just from looking at him.

I'm pretty sure she's just homely.

No dude. That's a man. Women do not look and more importantly sound like that. I've no idea why this is even being discussed. It's so obvious it should go without saying. You can even see his five o'clock shadow beneath the bad foundation he cakes himself in.

Are you kidding? My grandmother could have passed as a guy far more and had a gruff voice too. Is this gal one or not? Dont know, dont particularly care.

Their videos try to be funny and snarky. But to me it falls flat like half the time. That is more important. And they seem to swing wildly between woke and not. And pro wotc an against. But too disjointed for my liking. And I've watched a few. Just not my thang I guess.

As for this whole Alexandrian and Jaquays thing. Its a mess all around.
Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: Omega on February 10, 2024, 04:36:01 AM
Quote from: daniel_ream on February 09, 2024, 08:38:38 PM
Permit me to suggest "pandering to her core demographic" as a fourth option. As mcbobbo said elsewhere, D&D is now a lifestyle brand and that brand is aimed at college-aged Left Coast dangerhairs.

Its not a "lifestyle" brand... yet. WotC has tried to monetize fan crafts. But that does not in any way make it a "lifestyle".

In fact they have oddly dropped the ball on that front. But since 5e WotC has more and more outsourced things and let others do the footwork.

Now 6e. That could be a clusterfuck of stupid.
Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: RPGPundit on February 10, 2024, 07:48:24 AM
Honestly the fact that no one has any certain knowledge about whether Dungeons & Discourse is a woman or trans should be enough reason in and of itself that we need not give a shit. It means that if this person is trans, they aren't weaponizing it by repeatedly boasting about it at every turn as if it was the single most defining thing about them that we must all be reminded of constantly, and by not doing that they should earn our not giving a fuck if they are either.
Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: Brad on February 10, 2024, 06:56:23 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit on February 10, 2024, 07:48:24 AM
Honestly the fact that no one has any certain knowledge about whether Dungeons & Discourse is a woman or trans should be enough reason in and of itself that we need not give a shit. It means that if this person is trans, they aren't weaponizing it by repeatedly boasting about it at every turn as if it was the single most defining thing about them that we must all be reminded of constantly, and by not doing that they should earn our not giving a fuck if they are either.

Oh, I could care less. But she/he/it is fucking obnoxious and if I ever meet you in person you're getting a punch in the gut for making me watch that video. I'll make up for it with some good Scotch, though.
Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: Kyle Aaron on February 10, 2024, 09:09:00 PM
Quote from: Brad on February 10, 2024, 06:56:23 PMif I ever meet you in person you're getting a punch in the gut for making me watch that video.
"Watch this thing so you can feel outraged!" tends to not draw me in much. Especially not with gaming. I don't have enough time for the good stuff to allow any for the dumb shit.
Title: Re: The Alexandrian still a Lying Thieving Shit
Post by: Captain_Pazuzu on February 12, 2024, 10:38:47 AM
Quote from: RPGPundit on February 10, 2024, 07:48:24 AM
Honestly the fact that no one has any certain knowledge about whether Dungeons & Discourse is a woman or trans should be enough reason in and of itself that we need not give a shit. It means that if this person is trans, they aren't weaponizing it by repeatedly boasting about it at every turn as if it was the single most defining thing about them that we must all be reminded of constantly, and by not doing that they should earn our not giving a fuck if they are either.

Asi es.