Hello darlings and snowflakes!
Since I've been banned multiple times for not being inclusive/non-SJW/PC and now feel I have to walk on eggshells when posting on Swedens largest rpg-forum I have now decided to seek refuge here. When it comes to English rpgs I mostly play Call of Cthulhu. I love everything horror. See you in some thread somewhere.
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Welcome aboard!!!
We are a VERY inclusive RPG forum. Everyone is welcome, everyone has freedom of speech, and nobody has to agree with anyone.
And since you're Gimme Some Sugar, I shall POUR SOME SUGAR ON YOU!!
[video=youtube;lubaolhjzig]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lubaolhjzig[/youtube]
But since you're Swedish, so you get the version involving a Ninja, a Lion on lead guitar and a Robot drummer.
BTW, if you play any of the Swedish RPGs which have been translated into English, please start a thread!
Thank you for the sugarsweet video. I hope you all love me long time here. As for the newer Swedish RPGs...I have them all, but I haven't played them, apart from the excellent Western. Symbaroum has the greatest art, but I haven't played that either. I'm always the GM, sadly. And another thing is that many modern games contain a little taint of genderpolitics (like the Swedish word "hen" which is newspeak for nonbinary people). There is a small but LOUD minority of gamers that complain when women are portrayed seminude like in old Vallejo and Frazetta art (which I love).
I prefer to play the older game Drakar och Demoner, a BRP-fantasy game that I've been playing since 1984. I'm also waiting for the new Swedish Chock (an updated Chill). And of course, the Swedish translation of Call of Cthulhu.
Welcome aboard, my Swedish gamer friend!
So the insanity has spread to Sweden too, eh?
Quote from: SavageSchemer;1091229So the insanity has spread to Sweden too, eh?
It has spread everywhere, only places 100% free of it are hellholes you don't want to even visit where they throw gays of the roofs and shout "Aloha Snackbar!" Wasn't it Sweden where they implemented feminist snowplowing?
Anyway glad to see gamers remain sane even in Sweden.
Yes, it has spread. Sometimes I think it actually began in Sweden. It's deeply rooted at least and we are in the forefront of the madness. They teach little kids at kindergarten to be nonbinary, crazy stuff like that. Everybody who objects is basically called a nazi.
Sweden is the canary in the coal mine.
I met a Swedish photographer who is an actual refugee in Poland, took away with his family from batshit crazy stuff in Sweden. Can't tell if what he told me is true because he said some crazy stuff about the government wanted to take away his kids from him and his wife, but he seemed happy to move out of his homeland.
When it comes to gaming we've bought Forbidden Lands recently, I think is Swedish or at least partly Swedish game, seem quite cool and we're looking forward playing it soon.
Hey, welcome aboard!!!
F the Retards!!!
This place is a bastion of freedom. Welcome.
Thank you all for the warm welcome! I really appreciate it.
Quote from: kanePL;1091302I met a Swedish photographer who is an actual refugee in Poland, took away with his family from batshit crazy stuff in Sweden. Can't tell if what he told me is true because he said some crazy stuff about the government wanted to take away his kids from him and his wife, but he seemed happy to move out of his homeland.
When it comes to gaming we've bought Forbidden Lands recently, I think is Swedish or at least partly Swedish game, seem quite cool and we're looking forward playing it soon.
Yes, Forbidden Lands is a Swedish RPG. I have that one, but I don't think I'll ever play it. My players are a bit wary of new games. But the illustrations in the game are made by Nils Gulliksson who was the main artist for the Swedish rpg Drakar och Demoner that jumpstarted the hobby in Sweden back in the early 80's. Actually Forbidden Lands is reusing old art by him.
If someone is interested in old Drakar och Demoner, and has alot of translation time on their hands (or just like to look at pictures) almost all products have been released free online by Riotminds who now own the rights. Here is a working mirror link to it all:
http://www.dubbekarl.dk/dod/riot.html
Quote from: GIMME SOME SUGAR;1091353Yes, Forbidden Lands is a Swedish RPG. I have that one, but I don't think I'll ever play it. My players are a bit wary of new games. But the illustrations in the game are made by Nils Gulliksson who was the main artist for the Swedish rpg Drakar och Demoner that jumpstarted the hobby in Sweden back in the early 80's. Actually Forbidden Lands is reusing old art by him.
If someone is interested in old Drakar och Demoner, and has alot of translation time on their hands (or just like to look at pictures) almost all products have been released free online by Riotminds who now own the rights. Here is a working mirror link to it all:
http://www.dubbekarl.dk/dod/riot.html
It looks good, the art is awesome and feel I got from it was very positive. Anything you can tell about the system? I saw some percentage rolls and d6s involved, but obviously I can uderstand shit. Buddy of mine reminded me that he ordered Ruin Masters and it apparently is a new version of Drakar och Demoner?
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THIS IS SO COOL!
Old Drakar och Demoner (Dragons and Demons) started out as pretty much a straight port of the Magic World part of the Worlds of Wonder box set from Chaosium. So it is a BRP system, similar to RuneQuest or Call of Cthulhu. Eventually however, the system drifted. By 1985 the expert expansion for the second edition had switched out the d100 to a d20 for basic resolution. By the fourth/fifth (depending on who you ask) edition, released in 1991, the d100 was replaced by the d20 in the basic system as well, occupations had gone from a list of skills to giving you special abilities and becoming more like classes and several other rules changes followed. The sixth/seventh edition from 2000 changed even more, and these later editions are far less popular in Sweden than the earlier editions were.
Trudvang Chronicles is also based on Drakar och Demoner IIRC, but that game just makes my eyes glaze over. Nice artwork though.
Quote from: 3rik;1091372Trudvang Chronicles is also based on Drakar och Demoner IIRC, but that game just makes my eyes glaze over. Nice artwork though.
Yeah the Trudvang games are the further evolution of Drakar och Demoner. Of course recently there's been a lot more interest in the older game, several different companies doing various homages to the editions from the 1980s. Forbidden Lands is one of those, but there are several others, even one put out by the company that owns the DoD name (it is not considered particularly good however).
Hey there, welcome to the refugee camp :D
Quote from: Blankman;1091369Old Drakar och Demoner (Dragons and Demons) started out as pretty much a straight port of the Magic World part of the Worlds of Wonder box set from Chaosium. So it is a BRP system, similar to RuneQuest or Call of Cthulhu. Eventually however, the system drifted.
One of my patrons is from Sweden and was very familliar with Drakar och Demoner. They much prefer the older versions and at a glance so do I. I like percentile systems.
Quote from: kanePL;1091365It looks good, the art is awesome and feel I got from it was very positive. Anything you can tell about the system? I saw some percentage rolls and d6s involved, but obviously I can uderstand shit. Buddy of mine reminded me that he ordered Ruin Masters and it apparently is a new version of Drakar och Demoner?
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THIS IS SO COOL!
Well, Ruin Master is made by Riotminds who tried to "reboot" the old Drakar och Demoner BRP rpg, but with new illustrations, some new rules, etc. I was so disappointed when I bought that game (their Kickstarter was very successful though). I felt they totally missed the mark with it and it felt sloppy and rushed. But Riotminds own the trademark Drakar och Demoner and apparently think they own the rights to the gameworld (Ereb) Altor. So their new schtick was a box called Ereb Altor, but the world was now called Kaldorax or something. The old world had been drowned by the seas, or something like that. I don't think the project has been launched yet, but I feel they are milking an old trademark beloved by many older Swedish gamers and in the process tainting it.
In short, I fear that the project you mentioned, Ruin Masters, is just a cash grab aimed at an English-speaking market where Swedish rpgs have gotten some good attention lately.
Quote from: danskmacabre;1091515Hey there, welcome to the refugee camp :D
Thank you!
Welcome! Speaking of Sweden; the Swedish Western RPG (Western Rollspelet) made me curious. Have you tried it?
Welcome new members! :) Shall we join in a rousing rendition of the national anthem of your peoples?
*Pulls out "Dancing Queen" by ABBA*
It's still the best thing that came out of the Eurovision contests! :p
Quote from: SavageSchemer;1091229So the insanity has spread to Sweden too, eh?
Have you followed Swedish news for the last tens years or so?
Sweden has been conquered and the Swedes are to busy burying their heads in the sand to take notice.
Quote from: Trond;1091616Welcome! Speaking of Sweden; the Swedish Western RPG (Western Rollspelet) made me curious. Have you tried it?
Yes, I have the newest version, Western IV (I also had the very first by Lancelot games and Western III). The art is great and the game is great too, although the chase rules are quite complex so we have skipped them (well, there haven't been any classic ingame chases either). The game can be a bit meaty at times as far as rules go, but I love the genre so I don't mind it. As you might know they have successfully kickstarted and are now working on the English version of the game, but their pace might be bit slow due to serious illness. It's basically a couple who runs it all, and the wife has cancer. Whatever happens I hope they manage to get the game out to the English speaking market.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1152089861/western-the-roleplaying-game/
https://www.gofundme.com/lovetove
Well, I would rather hear something by Entombed, At the gates, Dissection, Morgana Lefay, Bloodbath, Necrophobic, Unleashed or Firespawn if I had the choice, lol.
Quote from: GIMME SOME SUGAR;1091645Yes, I have the newest version, Western IV (I also had the very first by Lancelot games and Western III). The art is great and the game is great too, although the chase rules are quite complex so we have skipped them (well, there haven't been any classic ingame chases either). The game can be a bit meaty at times as far as rules go, but I love the genre so I don't mind it. As you might know they have successfully kickstarted and are now working on the English version of the game, but their pace might be bit slow due to serious illness. It's basically a couple who runs it all, and the wife has cancer. Whatever happens I hope they manage to get the game out to the English speaking market.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1152089861/western-the-roleplaying-game/
https://www.gofundme.com/lovetove
Interesting! Thanks for the info. I can read Swedish, so I might look into the earlier editions if I can get my hands on them.
Quote from: Trond;1091655Interesting! Thanks for the info. I can read Swedish, so I might look into the earlier editions if I can get my hands on them.
Every edition gets more complex, so which one you should look into is probably best based on what level of rules complexity you are comfortable with. Western IV is very heavy. Western III notably less so, especially in character generation, and Western I is much much lighter (although not really a light game per se).
Quote from: GIMME SOME SUGAR;1091207Hello darlings and snowflakes!
Since I've been banned multiple times for not being inclusive/non-SJW/PC and now feel I have to walk on eggshells when posting on Swedens largest rpg-forum I have now decided to seek refuge here. When it comes to English rpgs I mostly play Call of Cthulhu. I love everything horror. See you in some thread somewhere.
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Välkommen!
Ahh A fellow compatriot in exile(self-imposed in my case). I am very well aquatinted with forum you refer to. For a time Big Purple was a refeuge(sic!) in comparison to the nuthouse you got banned from. Then Big Purple catched up and here we are.
Quote from: GIMME SOME SUGAR;1091646Well, I would rather hear something by Entombed, At the gates, Dissection, Morgana Lefay, Bloodbath, Necrophobic, Unleashed or Firespawn if I had the choice, lol.
Not to forget the Great Old One: Bathory
Quote from: Teodrik;1091868Välkommen!
Ahh A fellow compatriot in exile(self-imposed in my case). I am very well aquatinted with forum you refer to. For a time Big Purple was a refeuge(sic!) in comparison to the nuthouse you got banned from. Then Big Purple catched up and here we are.
Tack för välkomnandet! Yeah, I heard stuff about the other English forum and it sounded just the same as the Swedish one, where a few elitists/self proclaimed hbtq-champions/genderfluids dictate what is ok or not. This forum seems better for my nerves.
As a Swedish tabletop gamer I'm a bit worried about how the new Swedish version of Chock (Chill) and the Swedish rendering of Call of Cthulhu will be like since some of those holier-than-thou people from the Swedish forum have become a part of the production team.
Quote from: GIMME SOME SUGAR;1091871As a Swedish tabletop gamer I'm a bit worried about how the new Swedish version of Chock (Chill) and the Swedish rendering of Call of Cthulhu will be like since some of those holier-than-thou people from the Swedish forum have become a part of the production team.
Wha?! CoC in swedish with that
crew involved? Clutch those Elder Signs hard because we're in for observing some true IRL existential horrors at work. And not of the entertaining kind.
Quote from: Teodrik;1091874Wha?! CoC in swedish with that
crew involved? Clutch those Elder Signs hard because we're in for observing some true IRL existential horrors at work. And not of the entertaining kind.
Well, as far as I know there's only one of those people involved as of now, but only time will tell. I hope I don't choke on my coffee when I read the credits.
Quote from: Opaopajr;1091638Welcome new members! :) Shall we join in a rousing rendition of the national anthem of your peoples?
*Pulls out "Dancing Queen" by ABBA*
It's still the best thing that came out of the Eurovision contests! :p
Not Lordi?
Lordi were from Finland. We hate Finland here in Sweden. Jk. Only when it comes to hockey. I'm half-finnish myself (on my late mother's side). But I identify as 100% Swedish. Sometimes I identify as 100% sloth, cave troll or great white though but I'm species-fluid like that. My psychiatrist tells me it's "A-ok".
Quote from: GIMME SOME SUGAR;1092066Lordi were from Finland. We hate Finland here in Sweden. Jk. Only when it comes to hockey. I'm half-finnish myself (on my late mother's side). But I identify as 100% Swedish. Sometimes I identify as 100% sloth, cave troll or great white though but I'm species-fluid like that. My psychiatrist tells me it's "A-ok".
I was responding to the part about the best thing that came out of the Eurovision contests. Everything from Eurovision is shit, but Lordi were relatively funny IMHO.
Yeah, they were. I grant you that.:)
Quote from: GIMME SOME SUGAR;1092066or great white though but I'm species-fluid like that. My psychiatrist tells me it's "A-ok".
You and SHARK should probably share some PMs.
Quote from: HappyDaze;1092078You and SHARK should probably share some PMs.
Yeah, I noticed his avatar at once. I really admire it.:)
Quote from: 3rik;1092065Not Lordi?
off topic: Lordi's fun, but it was made knowing how much of a farce Eurovision is. It's kitsch at that point. :p ABBA is more talented, catchy, and its music has shown cultural longevity. But then Sweden is cursed with catchy music: Roxette, Ace of Base, The Cardigans, Robyn... :D
on topic: Which reminds me that I should run an all Swedish musical playlist whenever I next get to run Kult! ;)
/chased by Clive Barker cenobites
"
Mamma mia, here I go again
My my, how can I resist you?
Mamma mia, does it show again
My my, just how much I've missed you?"
How is the traditional RPG scene in Sweden?
Is there a big RPG convention? Has it been overrun by the freaks?
Quote from: Spinachcat;1092171How is the traditional RPG scene in Sweden?
Is there a big RPG convention? Has it been overrun by the freaks?
Sweden has always had a big rpg scene and punched above its weight internationally. There have always been a lot of Swedish rpgs (well, since the 80s anyway) and there's been a huge renaissance recently. You may have heard of such games as Mutant: Year Zero, Coriolis, Tales from the Loop, Forbidden Lands, Symbaroum, Kult: Divinity Lost and Vampire 5e. All of them (well Vampire at least partly) Swedish made and released in the last few years. And these are the ones who have been put out by the bigger Swedish game studios and translated. There's a lot of smaller stuff that is in Swedish only so far.
There's a ton interest in the hobby recently. The Swedish Gaming Federation has been going strong since the late 80s and help support young people who want to get into gaming of various types. They, along with organisations such as the Scouts and other youth organisations, get a grant from the government. This money is then distributed down to local youth gaming organisations, which they can then use to rent places to play and store games, throw events or just buy games.
There are several rpg conventions. Sweden is a small country though, so none of them would qualify as big conventions in the US. The largest one is GothCon, which has been running since 1977 in Gothenburg. These days it gets around 2000 attendees every Easter weekend. There's also LinCon, held in Linköping every Ascension day weekend since the mid 80s. There are a bunch of other smaller conventions too, most don't get more than a few hundred attendees at most.
The culture war stuff is not as tied into specific games or game styles in Sweden as in the US. For example at GothCon the OSR corner, which offers drop-in OSR gaming, shares rooms with the Indie-room, which offers drop-in story gaming. This is by choice and no one cares about any story-game vs OSR drama.
Quote from: Blankman;1092185This is by choice and no one cares about any story-game vs OSR drama.
That sounds refreshing. Now I just have to learn to speak & read Swedish.
Quote from: Spinachcat;1092171How is the traditional RPG scene in Sweden?
Is there a big RPG convention? Has it been overrun by the freaks?
Its run by the freaks. Just like everywhere else it seems.
Quote from: HappyDaze;1092210That sounds refreshing. Now I just have to learn to speak & read Swedish.
A good place to start learning Swedish is here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN1hL9cn7s0
;)