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Title: Starships & Spacemen
Post by: Drohem on April 26, 2010, 07:29:49 PM
FYI: Goblinoid Games has purchased the rights to Starships & Spacemen by Leonard H. Kanterman (Fantasy Games Unlimited, 1978).

Here is the announcement (http://www.freeyabb.com/goblinoidgames/viewtopic.php?t=2110&mforum=goblinoidgames) over on the Goblinoid Games forum.

You can now purchase a PDF of the original game on RPGNow.com (http://www.rpgnow.com/product_info.php?products_id=80756) for $4.95 USD.
Title: Starships & Spacemen
Post by: The Shaman on April 26, 2010, 08:16:14 PM
I'm dimly remember this as a Star Trek clone. I bought it for ideas for Traveller, but I don't recall ever actually using it for anything.
Title: Starships & Spacemen
Post by: Aos on April 26, 2010, 08:20:40 PM
That looks like some Jeff Dee art on the cover- which makes me want to posess it, regardless of its merits.
Title: Starships & Spacemen
Post by: jeff37923 on April 26, 2010, 10:15:02 PM
I've seen that one before, but never looked at its inside. Back then I just assumed it was something related to Space Opera, and ran away screaming.
Title: Starships & Spacemen
Post by: RPGPundit on April 27, 2010, 07:02:36 AM
Are we sure this isn't another Encounter Critical hoax? A second time would be lame.

RPGPundit
Title: Starships & Spacemen
Post by: Aos on April 27, 2010, 07:14:50 AM
Here's (http://www.rpg.net/news+reviews/reviews/rev_5139.html) a little more detail on the original edition.
Title: Starships & Spacemen
Post by: Drohem on April 27, 2010, 10:44:12 AM
Quote from: RPGPundit;376782Are we sure this isn't another Encounter Critical hoax? A second time would be lame.

RPGPundit

No, it's not a hoax.  I purchased the PDF through RPGNow.com.  It's a good quality PDF.

As an aside, a dude named Aramis is starting up a PbP game of Starships & Spacemen over on Old School Star Trek (http://oldschooltrek.proboards.com/).  So far it's just me and Falconer.  Come on over and join us help explore the galaxy and kill fervent Videni!
Title: Starships & Spacemen
Post by: Silverlion on April 27, 2010, 04:49:09 PM
Quote from: Drohem;376822No, it's not a hoax.  I purchased the PDF through RPGNow.com.  It's a good quality PDF.

As an aside, a dude named Aramis is starting up a PbP game of Starships & Spacemen over on Old School Star Trek (http://oldschooltrek.proboards.com/).  So far it's just me and Falconer.  Come on over and join us help explore the galaxy and kill fervent Videni!


What's the game like?
Title: Starships & Spacemen
Post by: Drohem on April 27, 2010, 05:25:29 PM
Quote from: Silverlion;376876What's the game like?

It's cool and I dig it. :)

The PDF from Goblinoid Games includes the Starships & Spacemen Expansion Kit included as well as the Starship Reference Sheet.

The Starships & Spacemen Expansion Kit was published in the Different Worlds magazine and includes errata on the game.

It's a simple level game.  Roll 3d6 for abilities.  There are 8 abilities, 4 of which can be improved by leveling.  Task resolution is a d20 vs. a 'to hit' number, and rolling below the number.

Characters must choose one of three branches: Military, Scientific, or Technical.  There are subclasses that can be chosen, but are not required.  Each Branch has a prerequisite score of 9 needed to enter, and each subclass has one or two prerequisite scores of 12 needed to enter.

Experience is earned by doing things in your field of expertise, and not by just killing things and taking their shit.

It's has rules for both space ship combat and personal combat.

It's a game based off the original Star Trek series with the serial numbers filed off.
Title: Starships & Spacemen
Post by: Cylonophile on April 27, 2010, 07:13:26 PM
Hmm, makes me wonder if anyone has or will get the rights to the original SFRPG "Space Opera".
Title: Starships & Spacemen
Post by: jeff37923 on April 27, 2010, 07:16:36 PM
Quote from: Cylonophile;376907Hmm, makes me wonder if anyone has or will get the rights to the original SFRPG "Space Opera".

You might want to look here (http://www.space-opera.net/) then.
Title: Starships & Spacemen
Post by: Cylonophile on April 27, 2010, 07:28:29 PM
Quote from: jeff37923;376910You might want to look here (http://www.space-opera.net/) then.
Thanks, Jeff.
Title: Starships & Spacemen
Post by: Silverlion on April 27, 2010, 07:39:37 PM
Quote from: Drohem;376892It's cool and I dig it. :)


It's a game based off the original Star Trek series with the serial numbers filed off.



Interesting. What alien races does it have?
Title: Starships & Spacemen
Post by: Aos on April 27, 2010, 07:49:29 PM
I once spent a lot of time playing space opera.
It sucks.
Title: Starships & Spacemen
Post by: Drohem on April 27, 2010, 09:45:25 PM
Quote from: Silverlion;376918Interesting. What alien races does it have?

Terran = humans

Rigel = KHAAANNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!
Well, they are based off Khan's appearance in the TV series since this is 1978 and Star Trek II hasn't been made yet.  The Rigel are genetically altered humans for generation ships that left earth in the 1990s in fear of a nuclear apocalypse destroying the earth.  They were later discovered when FTL speed was discovered.

Tauran = emotionless green-skinned aliens, i.e., green Vulcans.

Andromedan = blue furry humanoids which are trisexual and highly emotionally tuned.  Think of furry blue Betazoids from the Next Generation.  They are naturally psionic.

Zangid = humanoids similar to earth Orientals.  Original bad guys of the setting.

Videni = religious fanatics on a holy war to conquer or convert the galaxy.  New bad guys on the block.

The Zangid and Videni are not player character races.

Star Explorers (http://www.fantasygamesunlimited.net/category/Misc-11/rec/5) was a board game that is sort of a companion to Starships & Spacemen that was produced by FGU.  It's still available at the FGU website.
Title: Starships & Spacemen
Post by: Peregrin on April 27, 2010, 10:45:29 PM
Quote from: Aos;376920I once spent a lot of playing space opera.
It sucks.

I thought space opera was pretty broad?
Title: Starships & Spacemen
Post by: Aos on April 27, 2010, 10:55:22 PM
It is, but the parts don't fit together well and if i remember correctly the psionics system makes no sense. Of course it's been like 25-30 years since I last played it.
I ran my first campaign in it, actually, and of all the games I ran and played back in the day it, and AD&D 1e are the only two I harbor no nostalgia for.  That said, I'd probably play AD&D again, but not SO.
Title: Starships & Spacemen
Post by: Peregrin on April 27, 2010, 11:13:01 PM
Woops.

I'm retarded, and skimming threads too lightly.

I thought you meant the genre, not the game (esp. since I didn't know SO was a game).  :o
Title: Starships & Spacemen
Post by: Spinachcat on April 28, 2010, 04:46:45 AM
I ran Space Opera the RPG for three years.   No wonder I can play Rifts without system worries!
Title: Starships & Spacemen
Post by: Aos on April 28, 2010, 04:50:45 AM
Quote from: Spinachcat;377027I ran Space Opera the RPG for three years.   No wonder I can play Rifts without system worries!

I ran it for a long time too- and for a long time after, it never crossed my mind that game rules should/could make any sort of sense. Really, I'm not even sure where I stand on that subject today.
Title: Starships & Spacemen
Post by: Spinachcat on April 28, 2010, 05:11:36 AM
I wouldn't run it today.   But back in high school, we were running RPGs at least twice a week, often three times, so there was plenty of time to devote to a half-dozen different campaigns every month.