Quote from: Ratman_tf;985659Huh. I thought Paizo was doing pretty well. They seem to have sold enough modules back in the day to justify the expense of publishing a 3rd ed variant under the OGL... Did something happen?

Part of it may have to do with their Organized Play program. Paizo declared that there must be a minimum number of participants for an event and money being spent. Right afterwards, the local group just disintegrated.

Quote from: Ratman_tf;985659Huh. I thought Paizo was doing pretty well. They seem to have sold enough modules back in the day to justify the expense of publishing a 3rd ed variant under the OGL... Did something happen?

Too much product and not enough customers.  I saw a blog post from a game shop owner a year or two back saying that his shop's TTRPG revenue was split 50-50 D&D vs Pathfinder...except he had like 10x the Pathfinder SKUs generating the same revenue. And I think I saw somewhere else that Paizo is just selling new product to the same people over and over (think about it, how many people really need a dozen Player Companion books?).

So is paizo dying? I have a friend who limed pathfinder.

Quote from: Ratman_tf;984844I don't have the cash to spend on it this week, but I did flip through it a few times at the store while playing X-Wing.

Anybody bought it and got an opinion? I noticed it had vehicle and starship sections. I didn't have time to dig into how fantasy technology and magic work.

just finished my 1st  read through and love it so far.
though i likely will not get a chance to run it until after dragoncon

Quote from: Schwartzwald;986255So is paizo dying? I have a friend who limed pathfinder.

nah there doing fine
from what i have heard starfinder is doing vastly better then they had hoped for and there core pathfinder sales are  doing great.
i do not think that they are in any danger of collapsing anytime soon

Quote from: Cave Bear;985745Resolve points look an awful lot like healing surges from 4E. The irony.

Which could explain my *immediate* dislike of them.

Resolve points just seem like another name for Hero Points imo. If not I'm glad if it does the same as Healing Surgrs in 4E. No need for someone to have to play the Healbot.

Quote from: sureshot;986361Resolve points just seem like another name for Hero Points imo. If not I'm glad if it does the same as Healing Surgrs in 4E. No need for someone to have to play the Healbot.

Yeah...why have a cleric in the party.....

Healing surges are the worst. They completely ruin the game and make it much harder for a referee to remove from the game because usually the idea of characters having them is built into the DNA.

Quote from: Tetsubo;986352Which could explain my *immediate* dislike of them.

When/if you do a YouTube review would you mind posting it here? I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts.

Quote from: Schwartzwald;986255I have a friend who limed pathfinder.

He should try lime on tilapia. It's even better and  a lot less cullolose.

Quote from: jeff37923;985752Part of it may have to do with their Organized Play program. Paizo declared that there must be a minimum number of participants for an event and money being spent. Right afterwards, the local group just disintegrated.

I just looked at the Strategicon Gateway Convention schedule here in LA. It used to be completely dominated by Pathfinder on the schedule. Now? I'd say it's 10-1 5e to PF. Shockingly few PF games.

No matter what excuse people make about most of their books selling through Paizo directly or digitally or whatever to excuse the poor public sales numbers we know about, there is no excuse I can think of to explain the massive drop off in people playing PF at a local LA convention. That's a sure sign interest is waning, no matter how many, "We're doing fine, we're all fine here, how are you?" statements from Paizo.

Sounds like they Shadowrunne'd Traveller. My condolences.

Quote from: Dumarest;986388He should try lime on tilapia. It's even better and  a lot less cullolose.

If you're going to make fun of someone's spelling errors, maybe you shouldn't make any of your own.

The person running this website is a racist who publicly advocates genocidal practices.

I am deleting my content.

I recommend you do the same.

Quote from: WanderingMonster;986415If you're going to make fun of someone's spelling errors, maybe you shouldn't make any of your own.

Layers of irony here......it's like the pun game....once you start one you gotta keep the chain going.....(or put another way I bet the first misspelling was accidental but I am certain the second misspelling was intentional)

Anyway I have Starfinder. Group is excited for it....but I have to admit, I am not feeling it*. It's just Paizo trying to capture the lightning in a bottle that is the Pathfinder experience, but in space. I would probably be a lot more excited if it was a D&D 5E compatible product, but the sheer effort of wading through this to reorient myself on Pathfinder rules --but with a tiwst-- is just proving too much for me to bear. Pretty book, though. But for me I just say stick with White Star. Or discover White Star and join the Void Lords!!!!




*I think Pathfinder fans will love it though, as it provides them a new experience in the same comfort zone they are used to.