Starfinder release day. Whatcha think?

Tetsubo · August 19, 2017, 07:25:52 AM

I did a quick pass-through of the book. The one thing I don't like is the Resolve Point mechanic. I despise player currency mechanics. I have no issue with character currency points (ki points or grit points). Just hate player currency points. Both from the standpoint as a GM and player. But I do love the PF system so I will do a thorough read at some point.

The Exploited. · August 19, 2017, 10:17:17 AM

I'm not all that mad on PF. So, I doubt it will appeal to me. But I'd say it's a solid release from what I've read.

And you can really go wrong with d6!

Dumarest · August 19, 2017, 03:17:11 PM

Quote from: HorusArisen;985148Do you have d6 Space and supplements? I found stripping out the Star Wars material really made it easy to customise my own settings.

Just FYI to anyone interested, D6 Space (and all the other D6 games) are easy to get online for free. I think they were legal, too.

S'mon · August 19, 2017, 03:51:26 PM

Quote from: Dumarest;985276Just FYI to anyone interested, D6 Space (and all the other D6 games) are easy to get online for free. I think they were legal, too.

Yeah, free and legal - http://www.rpgnow.com/browse/pub/468/West-End-Games?filters=0_0_0_0_0&test_epoch=0

S'mon · August 19, 2017, 03:53:23 PM

Quote from: Ulairi;985069I am going to a local shop to look at it. White Star I think does everything I need but I like those cardboard pawns.

Hm, I wonder if Starfinder adventures could be run in White Star, the way I run Pathfinder adventures in 5e or Classic D&D. Presumably there will be a bunch...

HappyDaze · August 20, 2017, 10:28:22 PM

I picked it up and I've flipped through it today. I'm not sure I really get it. It's obviously bsed on PF, but there are a lot of little differences. If you think you know PF (or PF from a few years ago, I stopped following it in 2014), look really closely because much is changed. I don't know if it's for the better or not.

TrippyHippy · August 20, 2017, 10:58:19 PM

It'll appeal to Pathfinder fans I am sure, but doesn't particularly meet any niche to appeal to anyone else. There are lots of scifi games out there; I'm perfectly happy with Traveller, myself.

Dirk Remmecke · August 21, 2017, 02:21:44 AM

Quote from: HappyDaze;985518If you think you know PF (or PF from a few years ago, I stopped following it in 2014), look really closely because much is changed.

There's this smell of PF 2nd Ed in the air, don't you think?

Michael Gray · August 21, 2017, 09:03:01 AM

Quote from: Dirk Remmecke;985570There's this smell of PF 2nd Ed in the air, don't you think?

There has been for a while, what with the Unbound (?) class books that came out. The problem is that people moved to Pathfinder because they wanted to keep playing 3.x. If you make Pathfinder 2E too much "not 3.x" then it'll fail.

EDIT: To answer the original post, Starfinder, like Pathfinder before it, is not for me. I will play under protest if my group wants to give it a go, but I will not be the one running the game.

Ulairi · August 21, 2017, 09:09:56 AM

A lot of "in the industry" folks are saying that if StarFinder isn't a big hit that Paizo won't last. Apparently their cash flow is pretty terrible so. So, for their sake, I hope it succeeds.

I looked at it at my FLGS and....it's not for me. I usually would buy it even just to have it sit on my shelf but with DFRPG coming out the same week and my physical box getting here in about a month...can't justify it. Also, I don't like Patfinder and while it is different from Pathfinder it still suffers from the same things I hate about Pathfinder/3.x

Ratman_tf · August 21, 2017, 10:59:42 AM

Quote from: Ulairi;985625A lot of "in the industry" folks are saying that if StarFinder isn't a big hit that Paizo won't last. Apparently their cash flow is pretty terrible so. So, for their sake, I hope it succeeds.

Huh. I thought Paizo was doing pretty well. They seem to have sold enough modules back in the day to justify the expense of publishing a 3rd ed variant under the OGL... Did something happen?

Simlasa · August 21, 2017, 11:15:27 AM

Doesn't sound like there's much to recommend it except for being based on Pathfinder... IF you like Pathfinder and don't want to learn/play a different set of rules for scifi-ish games.

finarvyn · August 21, 2017, 04:25:21 PM

I was never a big fan of Pathfinder because it just had too many details to deal with, but I was excited to see a major company creating a D&D-like scifi RPG. At least, until I got the FREE RPG DAY booklet and it had zero actual game content in it, instead it had some vague hand-wave setting stuff. That preview just sort of turned me off and killed my enthusiasm for the system, since most quick-start RPGs give enough info to allow for some actual game play and this didn't seem to do that.

I haven't actually seen a copy and haven't played it, but I had high hopes at the start.

Ulairi · August 21, 2017, 04:27:58 PM

Quote from: Ratman_tf;985659Huh. I thought Paizo was doing pretty well. They seem to have sold enough modules back in the day to justify the expense of publishing a 3rd ed variant under the OGL... Did something happen?

What justified the expense of publishing the 3.x variant I think was more that WoTC screwed the pooch with 4E more than the success of the adventure paths. I do know that in Milwaukee the Pathfinder Society events are not nearly as crowded as they were 3 or 4 years ago. They've also reached critical mass when it comes to their more expensive hardbacks and I wouldn't be surprised if the adventure subscriptions have fallen off a cliff.

Cave Bear · August 21, 2017, 04:59:05 PM

Resolve points look an awful lot like healing surges from 4E. The irony.