Quote from: finarvyn;988650I was in a game store on Thursday and the owner told me that Starfinder has totally outsold expectations and that the first print run is totally gone. He said it would be a while before he could get more inventory. (Turns out that a different local store had a couple of copies and I decided to buy one.) Dunno if this is accurate or not, it's just what he told me.

Well, I have no insight into the hobby shop industry, but at GenCon, they were sold out by 3:00 Thursday. They were expecting to sell out maybe Saturday.

This could be a flash-in-the-pan thing, but locally the interest is high, prompting the introduction of Starfinder Society at a store that was dominated by D&D Adventure League. I suspect many D&D fans who don't have a dog in the pre-4e/post-4e D&D fight just see Pathfinder as "another D&D", but they see Starfinder as a change to do something different.

Quote from: Caesar Slaad;988647I don't know if you actually play the game, but I am having trouble reconciling your attack with reality. Iterative attacks suck. It's fidgety in play managing different attack bonuses. Boiling things down to a single attack bonus is much better.

I think we agree, maybe? I think 3.x iterative attacks sucked (but at least they were the same from round to round). I think this system is sort of trying to make things better by making the bonus flat within a round. But there's this round-to-round varying penalty that actually makes the choice more complicated.

In 3.x, sure, iterative attacks suck, but you know that if you can take them, you ought to. There's nothing to be gained by not rolling your extra attacks. In Starfinder, because you have a flat penalty based on the total number of attacks, how many attacks you should make depends on what you need to roll to hit (and you need to declare up front how many you're making).

This isn't going to stop anyone from playing it. It's just indicative of Paizo's approach, which is not to really improve the design.

How come no one is releasing third-party publications for Starfinder?

The popularity of Starfinder just means that there is no accounting for taste.

Quote from: DiscoSoup;988680How come no one is releasing third-party publications for Starfinder?

Uh, there are plenty.  Just not in stores perhaps.

Quote from: Celestial;988685The popularity of Starfinder just means that there is no accounting for taste.



Uh, there are plenty.  Just not in stores perhaps.

There seems to be a whole lot of badwrongfun in this thread.

Quote from: DiscoSoup;988680How come no one is releasing third-party publications for Starfinder?

Because you aren't looking in the right place, I'm assuming. I am actually sort of astonished at how much there is. There's a third party alien book available before the core Alien Archive has even hit the shelves.

Just last night, I noticed there was a third party roundup on the Paizo blog:
http://paizo.com/store/blog/v5748dyo5lk34?Look-Around-Can-You-Form-Some-Sort-of

The person running this website is a racist who publicly advocates genocidal practices.

I am deleting my content.

I recommend you do the same.

Quote from: fearsomepirate;988510Or maybe it's for people who want to play in a Tolkien world without their cyberpunk pastiche blankie HMMMMMMMMMM REALLY MAKES YOU THINK.

It's possible but not probable. The evidence does not bear that out.

I tried to give away my Starfinder book today to a friend that plays in a weekly Pathfinder game. He wasn't interested in taking it, so I guess I'm keeping it. I guess not all Pathfinder players are greeting Starfinder with open arms.

I browsed it at the FLGS and it is a pretty book. But I put it back since I don't see myself running it anytime soon. I wouldn't be opposed to play in a game sometime.

But if I ever ran it, I would use Dragonstar setting. Definitely not the house setting. The Gap. That is just stupid.

The setting is lame, but contains some interesting ideas. Absalom station is cool.

I just don't get why it's made the way it is. Magic also seems ill defined: it's just 'magic'. THere is no sci fi sheen to it at all. Not even a proprietary name like 'the force of others'.

Quote from: Caesar Slaad;988651Well, I have no insight into the hobby shop industry, but at GenCon, they were sold out by 3:00 Thursday. They were expecting to sell out maybe Saturday.

This could be a flash-in-the-pan thing, but locally the interest is high, prompting the introduction of Starfinder Society at a store that was dominated by D&D Adventure League. I suspect many D&D fans who don't have a dog in the pre-4e/post-4e D&D fight just see Pathfinder as "another D&D", but they see Starfinder as a change to do something different.

The sad thing for me is that what I really want is 5E Space, not Spacefinder. I'd like something that is "Adventurer's League" sanctioned that I can play in my local store.

Oh, and guys, I was being facetious.

Quote from: DiscoSoup;988821Oh, and guys, I was being facetious.

 I hoped so, but it's hard to tell over text...

I'm reading through my new copy of Veins of the Earth, and find myself thinking how well a good chunk of it would work with Starfinder - a lot of the monsters and such have a pseudo scientific / mystical aspect that seems to match well.