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So it might be D&D 6e in 2024 after all! (also, Planescape 2023)

Started by Eric Diaz, August 18, 2022, 01:30:12 PM

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Eric Diaz

Links here:

https://methodsetmadness.blogspot.com/2022/08/so-we-might-have-d-6e-in-2024-after-all.html

Excerpts (from Reddit):
Is One D&D introducing a new edition of D&D?
It's bigger than that. One D&D will usher in the next generation of D&D with new and more comprehensive versions of the core rulebooks that millions of players have enjoyed for the past decade. The rules will be backward compatible with fifth edition adventures and supplements and offer players and Dungeon Masters new options and opportunities for adventure. The evolution of fifth edition has shown us it's less important to create new editions of the game and more important to grow and expand the game you love with each new product.
And here is a video explaining some changes. As summarized by u/KyfeHeartsword on Reddit:

- PHB races are being completely revised. Orc is being added, new race of animalistic upper plane humanoids called Ardlings, half-elf and half-orc are being replaced by mix and match half-races, dwarves get limited use tremorsense when in contact with stone and optional traits, tiefling subraces are being consolidated into the main tiefling race with ancestral choices (Infernal, Abyssal, etc).
- Backgrounds now determine ASIs instead of race. All backgrounds give multiple options on where you can put your ASIs as they relate to your background choice. Backgrounds presented are built upon the same methodology as the customize and create your own background.
- All backgrounds give you a starting feat, these feats are specifically 1st level feats and all feats will now be grouped by power level.

Sounds like a new edition to me!

Will I play it?

Meh. Probably not.

Might check it our if there is a good SRD. If they want someone to fix weapons, give me a call. ;)

But I'm not buying a whole new set of books (curiously, there is ALREADY anew set out in 2022, that will be made mostly obsolete in a couple of years). I like some of these ideas, but it's making the game more complex. Not my cup of tea. I'm on the OSR train now!

Anyway, let's see how it goes.

EDIT: also, apparently Planescape in 2023!
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GhostNinja

I am going to stick with 5th edition.  No need to buy a new version and really no reason to give those woke idiots at WOTC more of my money
Ghostninja

Monero

I just started collecting 5E books, no way in hell I'm going to start over again in such a short amount of time. Plus, if what they started in Tasha's and built upon with Multiverse and Spelljammer, then it's just going to be more woke nonsense and I have zero interest in that. I don't want to play a Nick Jr. approved ttrpg, I wan to play D&D. Plus I find it insulting that WotC bent to the wills of the loud mouths on twitter who invented solutions for problems that simply didn't exist within the hobby.

WotC can suck my dick.

DeeEmm

After making Volo and Mordenkainen's Tome of Foes obsolete and after Tasha making optional rules not optional I'll never buy a WOTC product ever again.
So I'll just skip this one like I did with 4th.

Jam The MF

One D&D; because, there can be only One.  WOTC will tell everyone what D&D is, because they own it.  D&D belongs to them.

Don't you know they wish they had a do-over, on the OGL?  The existence of the OSR, pisses in their grits every day!!!  I hope they enjoy those grits!!!
Let the Dice, Decide the Outcome.  Accept the Results.

Effete

Translation:
Sales of core books are starting to slow. Time to roll out a slough of minor changes that are just enough to convince fans to buy an entirely new book rather than work from an eratta sheet.
*queue "chi-ching" sound and dollar signs in the eyes*

Nope. I learned my lesson back with the 3e -> 3.5 shift.

Steven Mitchell

Their slow, steady downward spiral in quality with ever change in personnel has reached the point where that alone would be sufficient for me to ignore 6E, 5.5E, or any other thing they care to call it.

A bridge too far on the woke nonsense would also be alone sufficient for the result.

I'll leave the outcome as an exercise for the reader. :)

thedungeondelver

Quote from: Eric Diaz on August 18, 2022, 01:30:12 PM
EDIT: also, apparently Planescape in 2023!

Makes sense.  As I've said before, that's how you bury a setting.  Introduce it at the very ass end of a dead edition, with rules for that edition only.  Then you get to tell your marks "Well we just released a setting book for that my good fellow!" despite it being abandonware (along with the prior edition) and you can do that for a decade.  "Planescape?  Why, the last book for that was released just a few years ago!" etc. for a good long while, and you hope the people nattering you about a legacy app go elsewhere.  Or give up and swallow what you're selling them.
THE DELVERS DUNGEON


Mcbobbo sums it up nicely.

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Effete

Quote from: Jam The MF on August 18, 2022, 03:13:31 PM
One D&D; because, there can be only One.  WOTC will tell everyone what D&D is, because they own it.  D&D belongs to them.

Don't you know they wish they had a do-over, on the OGL?  The existence of the OSR, pisses in their grits every day!!!  I hope they enjoy those grits!!!

They'll also try to claim the "OD&D" moniker as their own.
I'm calling it now.

Eric Diaz

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Naburimannu

Quote from: DeeEmm on August 18, 2022, 03:12:02 PM
after Tasha making optional rules not optional

One of my kids has our copy of Tasha's, so I can't check right now, but this doesn't ring any bells, and Googling around suggests that the stuff labeled optional really is optional and is treated as such by the community at large. What am I missing?


Continental

It honestly looks bloody awful.

The races are made more similar to each other - orcs aren't evil and drow are fine with sunlight. Aasimar are now 'Ardlings'. Half-elves and Half-orcs are gone (but you can approximate them by taking elements from each race, or in fact, any race, because now literally everything can breed with anything else).

Everyone has identical stats now because the snowflakes want every race optimised for every class. 

Backgrounds are completely stripped of role-playing elements (which yeah, were basic for us, but I found bond/ideal/flaw were great for introducing new players to role-playing concepts).   

New Dragonlance looks unrecognisable from the 80's version too.

There's no question whatsover they are doubling down on the woke nonsense.

However, they keep saying existing stuff is 'backwards compatible'. They clearly don't want it to be, but they've learned their lesson in the edition wars not to piss off existing customers. However, I'm going to 'press X to doubt' because of how they deep-sixed existing books like Mordenkeinen's/Volo's that didn't fit the narrative. As with any totalitarian regime, watch the unwanted elements slowly disappear, mysteriously to be never seen again.

'One D&D to rule them all' indeed.  Where have I heard that before?   

Jam The MF

They know it would be a marketing disaster today, to admit that the new D&D won't have good backwards compatibility.  They have to say that it will, and they have to try to deliver on the promise.  However......

How will characters mix at the same gaming table; if one was created using the original PHB, and the other was created using the latest most woke One D&D PHB + Tasha's content, etc.?

How will the danger hairs react to that?  Me thinks, not too well.
Let the Dice, Decide the Outcome.  Accept the Results.

Continental

Oh, Wizards of the Woke are fucked either way, and they know it.  They're just smart enough to see how the endless edition wars hurt their bottom line in the past.

'Backwards compatible' will only last as long as it needs to, believe me.

All newly-conquered people are told their new masters will respect their culture and traditions and even grant them some freedoms... until the purges happen. 

When the fuss dies down and players are used to their new overlords, 'backwards compatibility' will meet with an unfortunate accident when they are updating D&D Beyond. Oops!

HappyDaze

Considering the hate 5e gets and that people here want to see WotC fail, I'd think the coming of a 6e would make everyone happy...unless they fear WotC might pull out a success.