I'm not going to get too deep into this but...

There is going to be an absolute FIRESTORM of angry people once they formally launch One because just like Volo and Mordenkainen books, these new PHBs, DMGs, and other assorted books are 100% going to be pulled from the Beyond store for purchase and also no longer be available to general subscribers. The only way people are going to retain digital access (legally) to 5e books as One is released is if they outright purchased the permanent access to them instead of just accessing it via the sub.

It's going to get messy, BIG TIME and the rage is going to be unlike any edition warring we've ever seen... WotC is going to cannibalize their most successful RPG product of all time in order to sell new Core Rulebooks for One.

Quote from: HappyDaze on August 18, 2022, 05:29:44 PM
Considering the hate 5e gets and that people here want to see WotC fail, I'd think the coming of a 6e would make everyone happy...unless they fear WotC might pull out a success.

If only that were true. That would simplify things considerably.

Instead the vast majority of posters here are unhappy with what has been done to something they actually cared about and don't have a particularly positive desire for the people who damaged what wasn't particularly broken to be successful. That's not just normal, it's reasonable.

Sort of like a sequel to your favorite series of movies being made by a new studio who have no history of respecting or enjoying the things that you have always enjoyed about that series, people are generally wary of and have distaste for a new Sixth Edition because they have no expectation that it will be an improvement over what already exists. Especially given what WOTC has already said about what they want to do with it.

Now – you might not share that concern. But making stuff up you wish were true won't change that.

I don't hate 5e, I just don't care about it (it's not for me).

I don't foresee caring about the next iteration, either, but I'm not rooting for its failure. I'm not opposed to its success, either. I don't have any skin in the game.

Quote from: Philotomy Jurament on August 18, 2022, 06:39:48 PM
I don't hate 5e, I just don't care about it (it's not for me).

I don't foresee caring about the next iteration, either, but I'm not rooting for its failure. I'm not opposed to its success, either. I don't have any skin in the game.

I know I don't like 5e and there'snothing will convince me to give it another chancr at this point, so I have nothing to lose if 5e is replaced with something new. I might not like the next version either, but there's always a chance.

Looks like an excellent opportunity for a 2014-style 5e clone based off the 5e SRD.

Here comes the new Boss.
Same as the old Boss.

Hmm...... I wonder if, or rather what flavor of Original 5th Edition Books might be made available as Reprints, via DriveThruRPG?  I wonder how strong the aftermarket either will or won't be, for Used copies of the early printings of the 5E Books?  The Pre-Woke 5E Books.

Quote from: Effete on August 18, 2022, 03:24:14 PM
They'll also try to claim the "OD&D" moniker as their own.
I'm calling it now.

My God, you better be wrong. If they do, it was 100% intentional.

I hereby declare that the acronym for One D&D shall be 1D&D. Anyone continuing to refer to it as OD&D after being corrected is to be treated as an enemy of the hobby.

Quote from: Eric Diaz on August 18, 2022, 01:30:12 PM
- PHB races are being completely revised. Orc is being added, new race of animalistic upper plane humanoids called Ardlings,

More furries ...shocking.

Quote from: Eric Diaz on August 18, 2022, 01:30:12 PM
half-elf and half-orc are being replaced by mix and match half-races,

Actually pretty sensible, given that so many 5e players are homebrewing that already.

Quote from: Eric Diaz on August 18, 2022, 01:30:12 PM
Tiefling subraces are being consolidated into the main tiefling race with ancestral choices (Infernal, Abyssal, etc).

Again, a pretty sensible choice.

Quote from: Eric Diaz on August 18, 2022, 01:30:12 PM
- Backgrounds now determine ASIs instead of race. All backgrounds give multiple options on where you can put your ASIs as they relate to your background choice. Backgrounds presented are built upon the same methodology as the customize and create your own background.

I actually think this is kind of clever. If they're unwilling to tie initial ASIs to race anymore, this is a lot better than just saying "pick any stats you want to increase".

Quote from: Eric Diaz on August 18, 2022, 01:30:12 PM
- All backgrounds give you a starting feat, these feats are specifically 1st level feats and all feats will now be grouped by power level.

It's been a long time since I looked at the 5e Rules, but weren't feats an optional rule (albeit a very commonly used one)? It sounds like this is canonizing them as non-optional, which would in theory be a pretty big change.

Also, the name "1D&D" feels very --for lack of a better word-- coporate to me. It immediately makes me think of the XBox One, and the increasingly obscure names for the models that followed it. Just feels like a name that was chosen because some douche in marketing thought it would be "hip", rather than for communicating what the product was about to the consumer. 

Quote from: Cat the Bounty Smuggler on August 18, 2022, 07:24:35 PM
I hereby declare that the acronym for One D&D shall be 1D&D. Anyone continuing to refer to it as OD&D after being corrected is to be treated as an enemy of the hobby.

Scuttlebutt says it'll just be "DnD" and the "One" part is just marketing. Users will probably just say 5.5 or 6e, much to WotC's dismay. Considering their fascistic takeover of the brand, I vote for changing the name to Dungeons und Dragons, or DuD.

Quote from: ForgottenF on August 18, 2022, 08:04:41 PM

Quote from: Eric Diaz on August 18, 2022, 01:30:12 PM
- All backgrounds give you a starting feat, these feats are specifically 1st level feats and all feats will now be grouped by power level.

It's been a long time since I looked at the 5e Rules, but weren't feats an optional rule (albeit a very commonly used one)? It sounds like this is canonizing them as non-optional, which would in theory be a pretty big change.

The variant Human allowed you to pick a Feat and core Human fell by the wayside after that. It seems on their march to make things as generic and bland as possible, everyone gets a Feat now.

Quote from: HappyDaze on August 18, 2022, 06:53:08 PM

Quote from: Philotomy Jurament on August 18, 2022, 06:39:48 PM
I don't hate 5e, I just don't care about it (it's not for me).

I don't foresee caring about the next iteration, either, but I'm not rooting for its failure. I'm not opposed to its success, either. I don't have any skin in the game.

I know I don't like 5e and there'snothing will convince me to give it another chancr at this point, so I have nothing to lose if 5e is replaced with something new. I might not like the next version either, but there's always a chance.

You had me until "there's always a chance." 

Quote from: Effete on August 18, 2022, 08:09:37 PM

Quote from: Cat the Bounty Smuggler on August 18, 2022, 07:24:35 PM
I hereby declare that the acronym for One D&D shall be 1D&D. Anyone continuing to refer to it as OD&D after being corrected is to be treated as an enemy of the hobby.

Scuttlebutt says it'll just be "DnD" and the "One" part is just marketing. Users will probably just say 5.5 or 6e, much to WotC's dismay. Considering their fascistic takeover of the brand, I vote for changing the name to Dungeons und Dragons, or DuD.

Nice!

Quote from: HappyDaze on August 18, 2022, 05:29:44 PM
Considering the hate 5e gets and that people here want to see WotC fail, I'd think the coming of a 6e would make everyone happy...unless they fear WotC might pull out a success.

I have a hard time picturing a hypothetical 6th edition producing another 4e-level D&D crash. For one, I don't see them making the same mistake of completely overhauling a wildly successful ruleset. (In fact, this whole 1D&D thing seems to be tailor made to reassure people they aren't doing that). More importantly, the mainstreaming of D&D over that last few years has granted them access to that sector of the geek/fandom market that unironically does just "consume product and then get excited for next product". There's now too many Youtubers and media personalities whose livelihoods rely on staying in WOTC's good graces. They'll shill a new edition hard to their audiences, and the consumers will convert over out of FOMO. Just look at Warhammer 40K. The player-base is all grumbling about the release of a 10th edition, but GW has them so thoroughly bent over a barrel that they'll all buy it anyway.

I think WOTC have already alienated 90+% of the D&D players that they possibly could. I don't have the figures, but here's the impression that I get:

The small subset of people who care deeply enough about D&D --or RPGs generally-- to seriously consider alternatives have already migrated out to OSR games or other systems. That wider audience of casual players that don't know anything other than 5e, is big enough now that they don't really need us anymore. Because D&D is the gateway RPG for almost all new players, they really just have to worry about maintaining that dominant profile in the market, and retaining most of the casual players that are coming in.

Quote from: ForgottenF on August 18, 2022, 08:27:28 PM
The small subset of people who care deeply enough about D&D --or RPGs generally-- to seriously consider alternatives have already migrated out to OSR games or other systems. That wider audience of casual players that don't know anything other than 5e, is big enough now that they don't really need us anymore. Because D&D is the gateway RPG for almost all new players, they really just have to worry about maintaining that dominant profile in the market, and retaining most of the casual players that are coming in.

This.

The current 5e library has bloated to the point where it can seem daunting for new prospective customers to buy in. A "new edition," with all the fancy marketing that entails, will draw in those hopefuls, while maintaining a semblance of backward-compatibility will leech from the consooomer diehards that just want something to fawn over.

WotC could have easily released the new races and Backgrounds as optional UA material. They purposefully decided to turn it into a new product. There's no mistake, this was a financial decision. And don't kid yourself... it'll work.