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Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Opaopajr on July 12, 2013, 05:45:42 AM
So, I am watching the B-movie genius that is Sharknado, by SyFy channel, and need help fleshing out an OSR class system tied into gonzo B-movie setting.

Sure Gamma World screams monster generator, but I need a tight spread for character concept and time periods.

There has to be mud-on-your-face medieval Sword 'n Sorcery, ditzy modern decay, and wilderness that holds big mutants settings.

(OMG, her adult son wants to ride a helicopter and throw bombs into the tornado to blow up the sharks! This needs to come out on DVD! Anyhoo, back to task.)

Ditzy Modern Decay needs these classes:
Meth Tweeker, Hillbilly, Meathead Leader, Blonde Bombshell, Brooding Brunette, Smart Girl, The Scientist Who's Right!, Heroic Sidekick, Unexpected Grizzled Veteran, ...

can't, cqn't breathe... flopping sharks in the sky... tornado... headshotting shark out of sky with pistol... dying, brain needs oxygen... laughin cannot stop... ... ... ...
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Opaopajr on July 12, 2013, 06:19:01 AM
GASP!

Ok, I think I may have lost more brain cells than good ol' fashioned elevator hits of nitrous, but it felt worth it at the time.

So, Meth Tweeker:
a modern barbarian class which uses a d12 for hit dice, goes into rages, and can survive 0 HP for a round or two when raging.
WP tends to only be dangerously unstable weapons.
can't wear armor because needs to pick at skin, scratch off the crawling bugs.
built in NWP of Endurance, Run, and Brewing.
Lvl 1 can defy death once a day for each Fort, Reflex, Will saves, as long as the meth fix is maintained. Gets to take best of 2 save rolls.
Lvl 3 ... they reach level three? Anyone got ideas?
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: JeremyR on July 12, 2013, 06:26:01 AM
As that Zenopus blog just pointed out, Arduin did it 35 years ago.

http://zenopusarchives.blogspot.com/2013/07/the-original-sharknado.html

That "Liar%" never ceases to amuse me.
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Nexus on July 12, 2013, 07:52:28 AM
Oh good, i wasn't the only one working on how to game that movie. So at least when they lock me up I won't be alone on the ward...
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Opaopajr on July 12, 2013, 08:21:20 AM
Quote from: JeremyR;670233As that Zenopus blog just pointed out, Arduin did it 35 years ago.

http://zenopusarchives.blogspot.com/2013/07/the-original-sharknado.html

That "Liar%" never ceases to amuse me.

It's beautiful...

But now I need a table to represent a flailing sea shark tumbling about in the air biting randomly. It might end up doing its HD in damage from being bodily hurled into the opposing party by "its tornado" (symbiont?).
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Opaopajr on July 12, 2013, 08:26:42 AM
Quote from: Nexus;670251Oh good, i wasn't the only one working on how to game that movie. So at least when they lock me up I won't be alone on the ward...

We'll never be alone in the ward, even in solitary. Never as long as TV brilliance shoots forth upon the unsuspecting somewhere in this world. For it is then we are affirmed our connection to the voices is real, like a zeitgeist of gonzo.
:cool:
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Bill on July 12, 2013, 09:16:27 AM
Quote from: Opaopajr;670226So, I am watching the B-movie genius that is Sharknado, by SyFy channel, and need help fleshing out an OSR class system tied into gonzo B-movie setting.

Sure Gamma World screams monster generator, but I need a tight spread for character concept and time periods.

There has to be mud-on-your-face medieval Sword 'n Sorcery, ditzy modern decay, and wilderness that holds big mutants settings.

(OMG, her adult son wants to ride a helicopter and throw bombs into the tornado to blow up the sharks! This needs to come out on DVD! Anyhoo, back to task.)

Ditzy Modern Decay needs these classes:
Meth Tweeker, Hillbilly, Meathead Leader, Blonde Bombshell, Brooding Brunette, Smart Girl, The Scientist Who's Right!, Heroic Sidekick, Unexpected Grizzled Veteran, ...

can't, cqn't breathe... flopping sharks in the sky... tornado... headshotting shark out of sky with pistol... dying, brain needs oxygen... laughin cannot stop... ... ... ...

Just when I thought "Mansquito" was the Syfy channels magnum opus.....along comes "Sharknado"
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: RPGPundit on July 13, 2013, 04:10:45 AM
No, I really don't think sharknado does need a setting.
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: James Gillen on July 13, 2013, 04:11:17 AM
To me it sounds like it'd be perfect for D20 Modern.

JG
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: jeff37923 on July 13, 2013, 11:03:26 PM
I'm with Pundit.

Sharknado needs a burial, not a setting.
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Opaopajr on July 13, 2013, 11:14:35 PM
If you bury it, it will only come back, like the undead. It's part of the rules of the truly heinous.

I want an OSR game lashed to the waist upon the glory of B-movies! That means  I need a modern setting TSR clone.

I need to know the stats of a gas-powered chainsaw and its capacity to cleave a falling shark in twain, versus the lengthy delay to cut your way out from inside a great white shark!

I wonder if I can get away with "ditzy nympho" as a B-movie class...
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: jeff37923 on July 13, 2013, 11:16:10 PM
Quote from: Opaopajr;670717I want an OSR game lashed to the waist upon the glory of B-movies!

May I recommend Hulks and Horrors or Stars Without Number?
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Black Vulmea on July 13, 2013, 11:24:36 PM
You want a setting? You need Planet Motherfucker (http://www.lulu.com/shop/jack-w-shear/planet-motherfucker/paperback/product-21084142.html).

The author blogs about it some (http://talesofthegrotesqueanddungeonesque.blogspot.com/search/label/planet%20motherfucker).
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Opaopajr on July 14, 2013, 04:26:06 PM
HeroPress' blog review makes it sound promising:
HeroPress blog review (http://www.heropress.net/2013/07/rpg-review-planet-melon-farmer.html)

Planet Motherf*cker is Jack Shear's truly inspired setting booklet for a post-apocalyptic world where the Cold War escalated into a reality-shredding Armageddon in the mid-60s, leaving America a warped and twisted wasteland fuelled by B-movies, rock music, hard drink, illegal drugs, guns, fast cars and hot women.

This is Hershell Gordon Lewis meets Russ Meyer in 3D drive-in glory with Dennis Hopper and Hunter S Thompson as your co-pilots; highways stretching off to the horizon; mutants freaks and rednecks in your peripheral vision; an unapologetic celebration of trash cinema in a world gone to hell in a technicoloured handbasket.


as for content:

For the most part this 40+ page, digest booklet is system-free setting material - primarily in the form of random tables overflowing with gonzo goodness (such as what does this fast food joint serve? Who are these dirtbags? I touched this glowing thing - what happens next?)...

...The monster section, for instance, doesn't even include stats but is simply (and a brilliantly) a guide to what 'traditional' RPG monsters can be reskinned as Planet MF monsters.


Interesting. Might be more post-apocalyptic than I was looking for, however. But I can just tone down the nuclear mutants while keep the go-go dancers and fifth of jack. Now to add a shark and water/air elemental symbiont to get my Sharknado!

PS: Isn't Tales of the Grotesque and Dungeonesque blog our very own MisterGuignol?
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: jeff37923 on July 14, 2013, 04:37:44 PM
Don't do it, Opaopajr, its madness! Pure madness!

:)

(God, I knew I shouldn't have watched Flash Gordon this afternoon.)
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Spinachcat on July 14, 2013, 04:58:30 PM
I am already prepping a Sharknado adventure for my next convention!  

I am contemplating making it a Rifts adventure as such epic insanity as Sharknado deserves an equally epicly insane system.
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Black Vulmea on July 14, 2013, 05:00:10 PM
Quote from: Spinachcat;670862I am contemplating making it a Rifts adventure as such epic insanity as Sharknado deserves an equally epicly insane system.
Good call.
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Nexus on July 14, 2013, 05:02:52 PM
Quote from: Spinachcat;670862I am already prepping a Sharknado adventure for my next convention!  

I am contemplating making it a Rifts adventure as such epic insanity as Sharknado deserves an equally epicly insane system.

Good choice.

Hell, it almost works in the setting too.
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Opaopajr on July 14, 2013, 05:09:10 PM
Flash - a-ah - he'll save everyone of us

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha :D

Flash - a-ah - he's a miracle

Press the shiny, candy-like, red button! :cheerleader:

Flash - a-ah - king of the impossible

There's a water spout full of sharks heading towards Van Nuys! Quick! To the old folks home!
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: James Gillen on July 14, 2013, 08:02:43 PM
Quote from: jeff37923;670714I'm with Pundit.

Sharknado needs a burial, not a setting.

Which is part of why I think it needs to be D20 Modern.

JG
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: RPGPundit on July 14, 2013, 08:05:00 PM
Sounds amusing. Jack Shear should send me a review copy.
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Bill on July 15, 2013, 12:30:58 PM
Quote from: Opaopajr;670867Flash - a-ah - he'll save everyone of us

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha :D

Flash - a-ah - he's a miracle

Press the shiny, candy-like, red button! :cheerleader:

Flash - a-ah - king of the impossible

There's a water spout full of sharks heading towards Van Nuys! Quick! To the old folks home!

Flash Gordon would own Sharknado.
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: jeff37923 on July 15, 2013, 01:02:54 PM
Quote from: Bill;670960Flash Gordon would own Sharknado.

Yeah, but Sharknado would be one of Emperor Ming's weapons to use.
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: James Gillen on July 15, 2013, 02:45:29 PM
"Release the Sharknado!"
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Rincewind1 on July 15, 2013, 03:11:41 PM
Quote from: James Gillen;670977"Release the Sharknado!"

I can imagine myself saying that during a pulp game, when RPing a villain.


Alongside perhaps "UNLEASH THE BUFFALONAMI!"
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Bill on July 15, 2013, 03:40:27 PM
Dispatch war rocket Sharknado to bring back his body!
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: James Gillen on July 16, 2013, 02:56:45 AM
"NO!  Not the MANSQUITOS!"
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Opaopajr on July 16, 2013, 03:28:17 AM
OK, now I'm suffering analysis paralysis from the sheer potential joy.

I mean, Z-grade disaster movie schlock is wonderful, and a whole one-shot campaign on its own.

But the idea of Sci-Fi villain, like Emperor Ming, "unleashing the sharknado!" is far too precious to leave alone. Makes me want to run a four-colors Flash Gordon game real bad.

However, after reading misterguignol's blog (of much entertaining value) and re-reading gothic tropes in his Tale of the Grotesque and Dungeonesque, I'm really thinking of exploring something truly bizarre...

I have 13 major Gothic trends with which to explore the natural terror and horror of the sharknado. It is awe inspiring, bending one's sanity while at the same time rife with the chum of gore and viscera. Of course, Seaside Gothic might superficially be easiest, but Southern and High Gothic paw at me with cloying cruelty of their impossibility.
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: The Yann Waters on July 16, 2013, 07:20:00 AM
Quote from: Opaopajr;670717If you bury it, it will only come back, like the undead. It's part of the rules of the truly heinous.

(http://i1334.photobucket.com/albums/w655/YannWaters/GhostSharks_zpsa2740e14.jpg)

(From the webcomic Oglaf, "How They Get You".)
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: jeff37923 on July 16, 2013, 01:34:49 PM
Dude, you could totally do a game of Maid in the sharknado with the Players being Maid sharks trying to keep the Master tornado pleased! :D
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: The Yann Waters on July 16, 2013, 03:22:15 PM
Quote from: jeff37923;671265Dude, you could totally do a game of Maid in the sharknado with the Players being Maid sharks trying to keep the Master tornado pleased! :D

A more typical Sharknado scenario for Maid would no doubt revolve around a random event chart of different shark-related incidents which disrupt the peace of the mansion and threaten the life of the master.
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Opaopajr on July 16, 2013, 06:54:52 PM
Quote from: jeff37923;671265Dude, you could totally do a game of Maid in the sharknado with the Players being Maid sharks trying to keep the Master tornado pleased! :D

Now that's just silly. :nono:

PS: Onto page 4 and beyond!
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Nexus on July 16, 2013, 08:44:26 PM
Quote from: The Yann Waters;671147(http://i1334.photobucket.com/albums/w655/YannWaters/GhostSharks_zpsa2740e14.jpg)

(From the webcomic Oglaf, "How They Get You".)

Funny you should say that... (//io9.com/behold-syfys-next-masterpiece-ghost-shark-805669057)
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Opaopajr on July 17, 2013, 01:59:09 AM
Ghost Shark, by SyFy... /single tear or joy

There is a God, and He (Zhe :p) works in mysterious ways.

Now I may create my gothic lolita shark in peace. It'll be a crossover of The House of Usher and Jabbermouth. And then when I run it at a convention the world will end in a fading television signal event horizon and the eternal primal scream.

You're welcome,
:hatsoff:
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Rincewind1 on July 17, 2013, 11:59:41 AM
Sounds like a perfect material for a storygame.
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: MoonHunter on July 17, 2013, 02:07:04 PM
Okay, I have been trying to mentally block out Sharknado... but something bubbled out of my subconscious.   (Okay, clawed its way out....)

It already has a setting.  

Damnation Decade:
For those that do not know:  http://greenroninstore.com/products/damnation-decade-pdf

All those enviromental/ animal disaster films of the 70s fit perfectly in this setting.  Once I thought about it, most of the Sci-Fi movies about mutant/genetically modified animals becoming monsters would fit perfectly in this setting.
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Bill on July 17, 2013, 03:57:16 PM
Quote from: MoonHunter;671624Okay, I have been trying to mentally block out Sharknado... but something bubbled out of my subconscious.   (Okay, clawed its way out....)

It already has a setting.  

Damnation Decade:
For those that do not know:  http://greenroninstore.com/products/damnation-decade-pdf

All those enviromental/ animal disaster films of the 70s fit perfectly in this setting.  Once I thought about it, most of the Sci-Fi movies about mutant/genetically modified animals becoming monsters would fit perfectly in this setting.

When is the SyFy going to do Sharknado vs Mansquito?
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: RPGPundit on July 18, 2013, 07:52:33 PM
Disturbingly, the word "sharknado" would make more sense and be less stupid in spanish than in english.
In spanish, "shark" is "Tiburon".
Tornado is still "Tornado".

So a sharknado would be a "Tiburnado".
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: crkrueger on July 18, 2013, 07:57:15 PM
Apocalypse World
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Shawn Driscoll on July 18, 2013, 10:41:03 PM
I would never play a game of that movie.  Not a fan of Asylum movies.
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: James Gillen on July 19, 2013, 01:51:01 AM
Quote from: Shawn Driscoll;672197I would never play a game of that movie.  Not a fan of Asylum movies.

I have yet to meet anyone who is.

JG
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Shawn Driscoll on July 19, 2013, 10:42:39 AM
Quote from: James Gillen;672231I have yet to meet anyone who is.

JG

You are lucky.
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: RPGPundit on July 21, 2013, 04:04:36 AM
I've yet to meet anyone who's a fan unironically.
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Opaopajr on July 21, 2013, 09:57:00 AM
You can watch such films unironically?:confused:

I really need to get out of my post-modern bubble. :p
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: RPGPundit on July 22, 2013, 02:20:26 AM
Quote from: Opaopajr;672908You can watch such films unironically?:confused:

I really need to get out of my post-modern bubble. :p

I can't be sure whether you can or not; I have yet to meet anyone who has... the two options I am sure exist are "can enjoy watching them ironically" or "can't enjoy watching them".
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: James Gillen on July 22, 2013, 02:23:06 AM
Quote from: RPGPundit;673138I can't be sure whether you can or not; I have yet to meet anyone who has... the two options I am sure exist are "can enjoy watching them ironically" or "can't enjoy watching them".

The third option of "Can enjoy watching them unironically" I think would only apply to someone who was a character in one of those movies.

JG
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Opaopajr on July 22, 2013, 04:24:58 AM
Well, I love old Godzilla and Ray Harryhausen movies. But those were actually pretty good. There must be a tipping point where things are beyond the pale cheesy.

Is it the CGI, the title, or the storyboarding that pushes things too far? Perhaps rubber monster suits and claymation brought about a pathos now sorely lacking. We need Helen Mirren and Colin Firth in one of these flicks.
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Rincewind1 on July 22, 2013, 07:18:21 PM
Quote from: Opaopajr;673171Well, I love old Godzilla and Ray Harryhausen movies. But those were actually pretty good. There must be a tipping point where things are beyond the pale cheesy.

Is it the CGI, the title, or the storyboarding that pushes things too far? Perhaps rubber monster suits and claymation brought about a pathos now sorely lacking. We need Helen Mirren and Colin Firth in one of these flicks.

You're kind of making unfair comparisons here. Godzilla started out as Japanese cultural reaction to atomic bomb. Ray Harryhausen was making films where, at the time, those special effects were top of the line, and the films also combine them with immortal plot. If you want to compare films it'd be fairer to compare Pacific Rim and Godzilla, rather than Sharkanado. Sharkanado is more deserving of comparison to Attack of the Killer Tomatos or Attack of the 50 Feet Tall Woman.
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Benoist on July 22, 2013, 10:34:22 PM
Come on. Anybody who writes a script where there are tornadoes full of flying sharks and that is the core idea of your movie baked in a "motley crew of survivors try to make it til the next day" archetype HAS to know this is cheesy and over the top beyond belief. The writers themselves HAVE to do this ironically. I cannot believe they would do it seriously as in "WOW that will OWN Lord of the Rings right there!"

It's for the LULZ. And why not? I would watch it and laugh my ass off throughout, potentially.
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Opaopajr on July 22, 2013, 11:54:36 PM
Well I need to flesh out Sassy Sidekick class (which doesn't have to be a sidekick, but has to be sassy!).

I'm thinking Cha 9+ prerequisite. Possibly under Rogue group or maybe its own group.

d8 Hit Dice, can use armor and weapons like a Bard, but has Magic User BAB/THAC0. (Has WP of Warrior and NWP of Priest, so lots of slots!)

Can use all support items, healing and defense, with regards to the time period (protect scrolls, potions, first aid kits, ER crash carts, etc).

Has Thief Skills of Hide in Shadows, Move Silently, Listen, and Read Languages, but much slower progression...

Has 3rd class ability of Procurer: finds brokers, patrons, and contacts faster than others. A bonus to reaction rolls of +2 when doing such business.

Hmmm... what else?
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: James Gillen on July 23, 2013, 01:53:46 AM
http://www.motherjones.com/mixed-media/2013/07/sharknado-sharknado-sharknado-sharknado-sharknado

QuoteChris Vaccaro, a spokesman for the National Weather Service, responded similarly: "Sharknado seems to fulfill Syfy's description as 'a media destination for imagination-based entertainment,'" Vaccaro writes in a statement sent to Mother Jones. Even so, he humored me with his advice for sharknado readiness. "As with any waterspout or tornado, the best advice is to be in an interior part of the lowest floor of a sturdy building—and not outside, whether sharks are raining down or not." (The White House did not respond to my tweet asking how President Barack Obama would respond if sharknadoes occurred over an American city on his watch.)
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Rincewind1 on July 23, 2013, 09:50:37 AM
Same as usual, deny, fire Clinton.
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: jeff37923 on July 23, 2013, 02:25:54 PM
Quote from: Rincewind1;673612Same as usual, deny, fire Clinton.

That is old school.

New school is sweep it under the rug, let Clinton yell "What does it matter that Americans were killed!", and try to stir up faux racism in a self-defense case as cover. Oh, and through in lots of gossip column chaff as well.
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Nexus on July 23, 2013, 02:29:27 PM
Quote from: jeff37923;673761That is old school.

New school is sweep it under the rug, let Clinton yell "What does it matter that Americans were killed!", and try to stir up faux racism in a self-defense case as cover. Oh, and through in lots of gossip column chaff as well.

Faux racism?
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: jeff37923 on July 23, 2013, 02:34:08 PM
Quote from: Nexus;673767Faux racism?

"Trayvon Martin was shot and killed for the crime of walking while black!!!", has been the current rallying cry.
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: jeff37923 on July 23, 2013, 02:35:36 PM
Quote from: Nexus;673767Faux racism?

Yeah, read up on the case and the political hay being made from it and you will see.
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Opaopajr on July 23, 2013, 09:08:36 PM
And now I'm confused on my own Sharknado topic... :confused:

Impressive!

(edit: No, don't explain. A joke explained is a dead joke. Let it lie, like a bad toupee.)
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Rincewind1 on July 23, 2013, 09:28:12 PM
Quote from: jeff37923;673761That is old school.

New school is sweep it under the rug, let Clinton yell "What does it matter that Americans were killed!", and try to stir up faux racism in a self-defense case as cover. Oh, and through in lots of gossip column chaff as well.

Well, I know she left of her own accord, but it was either that or get fired. And considering the Democrats want to field her in 2016, she knew the name of the game as well.

Let's return to Sharkanado after the brief political tangent.
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: crkrueger on July 23, 2013, 09:35:44 PM
Quote from: Benoist;673498Come on. Anybody who writes a script where there are tornadoes full of flying sharks and that is the core idea of your movie baked in a "motley crew of survivors try to make it til the next day" archetype HAS to know this is cheesy and over the top beyond belief. The writers themselves HAVE to do this ironically. I cannot believe they would do it seriously as in "WOW that will OWN Lord of the Rings right there!"

It's for the LULZ. And why not? I would watch it and laugh my ass off throughout, potentially.

The whole point of Asylum films is to take a film like Transformers and make a cheesy B film called Transmorphers.
Snakes on a Plane -> Snakes on a Train
Abraham Lincoln Vampire hunter -> Abraham Lincoln vs. Zombies
20,000 Leagues Under the Sea -> 30,000 Leagues Under the Sea

The company refers to their films as "Mockbusters", they are intended to be a joke from the getgo.
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Opaopajr on July 23, 2013, 10:34:17 PM
There's a delightful bit of ouroboros going on with Snakes on a Plane and Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter.

I just need a good source for weapon stats for TSR D&D. Might have to rediscover Alternity and Mask of the Red Death in the used bins. I'll go double check Stars Without Number for weapon readouts.
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: jeff37923 on July 24, 2013, 04:21:42 AM
Quote from: Rincewind1;673904Let's return to Sharkanado after the brief political tangent.

Thank you for speaking wisdom when this aging cthuloid drunk could not....
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: MoonHunter on July 25, 2013, 12:59:11 PM
"Nobody understands you in this century unless you swear every other word. You'll find it in all the literature of the era: Jackelyn Susann, the novels of Harrold Robbins." -- Kirk
"Ah, the giants." -- Spock (Star Trek IV)

You know, why we cringe at these movies now, twenty  or thirty years in the future, there will be this whole revival movement centered around the mock camp of the early part of the century. Just like we look back at Them, The Blob, The Thing, and all those monster movies from Mid Century and go, "Oh those are classics."
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Opaopajr on July 25, 2013, 09:24:41 PM
I liked those horror movie classics... :( I resemble this assessment.

... :D but who cares! It's all good fun.

(bear) Hugs and (shark) kisses to you all for reaching page 7.

(seriously, anyone got anything beyond d20 modern for modern weaponry?)
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: RPGPundit on July 27, 2013, 03:56:46 AM
Yeah, I really don't think even the cast and crew could look at this thing unironically and think of it as anything other than crap.
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Opaopajr on July 27, 2013, 04:07:55 AM
... no OSR compatible modern weaponry readouts at all, people?

How am I going to incorporate the awesome that is gas-powered chainsaw or 'boomstick'?
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Rincewind1 on July 27, 2013, 04:20:59 AM
Quote from: Opaopajr;675219... no OSR compatible modern weaponry readouts at all, people?

How am I going to incorporate the awesome that is gas-powered chainsaw or 'boomstick'?

For a moment I was pretty confused, than I remembered American English.

Chainsaw: 1d8 damage, when critting with chainsaw add 2d6 to the damage (the bonus 2d6 does not double) and remove one limb (if the subject falls under 0, it's head), DM's discretion. On a To - Hit roll that's 1, the Chainsaw's chain broke due to bad contact with bone - the weapon is useless until a new chain is installed. Metal armour counts double, also constructs made out of metal will have higher AC. Metal - clad opponents increase the chance for the chain to break to 1 - 2. After 20 rounds of combat Chainsaw runs out of fuel.

Boomstick:

4d8 damage up to 10 meters, 2d8 damage up to 20 meters, 1d8 damage past, additional range penalty every 45 meters after that. 1d10 + 2 damage always when firing a shell shot, ranges 10/20/45. May choose to empty both barrels with one attack. If you reload, you may only fire again or move that round*. Foes that would be afraid of magic are also afraid of Boomstick.



*This is accounting 1 minute Old D&D rouns. Otherwise if 1round = 6 seconds or 10 seconds, reload is one round simply.
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Opaopajr on July 27, 2013, 04:35:07 AM
Thank you, Rincewind.

I was hoping there was 2e compliant stuff in Dragon or 3rd party product somewhere. But making it up is helpful as well, as I gotta start somewhere. I'm also going to need the Michael Bay explosion convertor, so as to roll something when all those cars' gas tanks explode.
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Rincewind1 on July 27, 2013, 04:41:28 AM
Quote from: Opaopajr;675224Thank you, Rincewind.

I was hoping there was 2e compliant stuff in Dragon or 3rd party product somewhere. But making it up is helpful as well, as I gotta start somewhere. I'm also going to need the Michael Bay explosion convertor, so as to roll something when all those cars' gas tanks explode.

SO YOU ARE A STAR OF MICHAEL BAY FILM AND YOU HID BEHIND A CAR?

Any turn the car suffered 5 or more damage, roll 1d20. On a roll of 11 to 20, nothing happens. On a roll of 1 through 10, the car explodes and damages everything in a ten meters circle with strength of 1d10 to 10d10, depending on the D20 value.
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: James Gillen on July 28, 2013, 12:18:53 AM
Quote from: RPGPundit;675217Yeah, I really don't think even the cast and crew could look at this thing unironically and think of it as anything other than crap.

When your main stars are Ian Ziering and Tara Reid, you know it's a winner.

JG
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Bill on July 29, 2013, 01:52:21 PM
Quote from: James Gillen;675397When your main stars are Ian Ziering and Tara Reid, you know it's a winner.

JG

I don't really know who Ian Ziering and Tara Reid are, but I saw a funny news snippet that said Tara Reid has refused to be in Sharknado II.

You gotta have standards :)
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: James Gillen on July 30, 2013, 02:36:03 AM
Quote from: Bill;675680I don't really know who Ian Ziering and Tara Reid are,

My point exactly.

jg
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Opaopajr on July 31, 2014, 03:45:12 AM
I LIVE!
:cheerleader:

:popcorn::popcorn:
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Opaopajr on July 31, 2014, 04:15:26 AM
It was fabooo! Fire, ice, & shark! Cameos and cheesy deaths and impossible situations chasing down everybody. A totally game-able disaster world.
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Opaopajr on July 31, 2014, 04:35:57 AM
Quote from: Bill;675680I don't really know who Ian Ziering and Tara Reid are, but I saw a funny news snippet that said Tara Reid has refused to be in Sharknado II.

You gotta have standards :)

And to hell with their own standards! They are both in it!
 Q.Q
/googly-eyed tears
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Black Vulmea on July 31, 2014, 10:47:46 AM
Quote from: RPGPundit;672145Disturbingly, the word "sharknado" would make more sense and be less stupid in spanish than in english.
In spanish, "shark" is "Tiburon".
Tornado is still "Tornado".

So a sharknado would be a "Tiburnado".
:rotfl:

I can't believe I didn't think of that.
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Bill on July 31, 2014, 11:36:28 AM
Quote from: Opaopajr;773833And to hell with their own standards! They are both in it!
 Q.Q
/googly-eyed tears

Guess they were well paid.
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: The Butcher on July 31, 2014, 07:50:52 PM
Tell us all about it. What system did you use? Who were the PCs?
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Opaopajr on July 31, 2014, 08:16:38 PM
Flaming sharks from the sky! Jumping the sharks! Tornadoes of biblical proportions! Sharks killed by umbrellas, high heeled shoes, pizza ovens!
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Mr. Kent on July 31, 2014, 08:25:00 PM
Haven't seen The Second One yet, but I'm looking forward to it...
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Just Another Snake Cult on August 01, 2014, 12:12:40 AM
Just a week or so ago I found a copy of Stellar Game's IT CAME FROM THE LATE LATE LATE SHOW at a local con for two measly bucks.

http://www.amazon.com/Came-Late-Show-Playing-Movies/dp/B00AC3S0O8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1406866169&sr=8-1&keywords=it+came+from+the+late+late+late+show

It's actually really, really good. It would be PERFECT for something like this. Have a gaming party were somebody brings a surprise z-movie, you all watch it, and then the designated GM has to wing a sequel.
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Nexus on August 01, 2014, 12:20:39 AM
Quote from: Just Another Snake Cult;774249Just a week or so ago I found a copy of Stellar Game's IT CAME FROM THE LATE LATE LATE SHOW at a local con for two measly bucks.

http://www.amazon.com/Came-Late-Show-Playing-Movies/dp/B00AC3S0O8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1406866169&sr=8-1&keywords=it+came+from+the+late+late+late+show

It's actually really, really good. It would be PERFECT for something like this. Have a gaming party were somebody brings a surprise z-movie, you all watch it, and then the designated GM has to wing a sequel.

Agreed!

I had a copy of that a long time ago (which has sadly gone missing) and it was the first game that came to mind.
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: ArrozConLeche on August 01, 2014, 07:24:18 AM
I hate the idea behind sharknado. Bad movies are only fun when they take themselves seriously. It's like love. You can't plan it; it just happens despite yourself.

That being said, if I'd love to see a setting based on something like Ninja Terminator.

http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/bj/tcs/34510-ninja-terminator

I'd love to take down the Ninjer Empire.
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Opaopajr on August 02, 2014, 01:32:29 AM
Quote from: Just Another Snake Cult;774249Just a week or so ago I found a copy of Stellar Game's IT CAME FROM THE LATE LATE LATE SHOW at a local con for two measly bucks.

http://www.amazon.com/Came-Late-Show-Playing-Movies/dp/B00AC3S0O8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1406866169&sr=8-1&keywords=it+came+from+the+late+late+late+show

It's actually really, really good. It would be PERFECT for something like this. Have a gaming party were somebody brings a surprise z-movie, you all watch it, and then the designated GM has to wing a sequel.

:( Now I jones for one. Amazon has some ridonkulous $100 price on the website. I might have to trawl the used book stores and ebay for a reasonable price.
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: mightyuncle on August 02, 2014, 01:42:41 AM
I want the Forge to do a story game of "The Room."
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Black Vulmea on August 02, 2014, 02:30:13 AM
Quote from: ArrozConLeche;774333Bad movies are only fun when they take themselves seriously.
Yeah, word is Rowdy Herrington regards Road House as an unsung masterpiece.
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: The Ent on August 02, 2014, 11:05:59 AM
Quote from: Black Vulmea;774689Yeah, word is Rowdy Herrington regards Road House as an unsung masterpiece.

Roadhouse has one nice oneliner.

Allthough a buddy of mine came up with a superior variation on the theme aged 16.
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Omega on August 03, 2014, 07:30:58 AM
Quote from: Rincewind1;675228SO YOU ARE A STAR OF MICHAEL BAY FILM AND YOU HID BEHIND A CAR?

Any turn the car suffered 5 or more damage, roll 1d20. On a roll of 11 to 20, nothing happens. On a roll of 1 through 10, the car explodes and damages everything in a ten meters circle with strength of 1d10 to 10d10, depending on the D20 value.

There is actually a module in Dragon set in modern England with rules for various modern items and even driving rules amongst other weirdness.

But you can plunder Gamma World for appropriate items as they are cross compatible with D&D. I believe one of the modules has an entry for a shotgun.

Also dragon 132 has an entry for the "chainsword" for BECMI.
Not activated it does damage as a 2-handed sword. But activated it does an additional 1d6 damage. If it hits someone with armour, the armour has to save vs crushing blow or be degraded one AC step worse. Treents must save vs petrification or be sawn in half and killed.

Replace Treent with Shark.

City Beyond the Gate in Dragon 100 lists shotgun as
Damage (s-m/l) 1d10/1d4, rate 1(2), shots 1(2), reload time 2, range s-2/m-6/l-9
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: sniderman on August 03, 2014, 08:06:57 AM
Quote from: Opaopajr;774677:( Now I jones for one. Amazon has some ridonkulous $100 price on the website. I might have to trawl the used book stores and ebay for a reasonable price.

Noble Knight has a Late, Late Show "boxed set" which is a b undle of I and II for $20. You can pick up I, II, and III for less than $30 there.

Late, Late Show in stock (http://www.nobleknight.com/ViewProducts.asp_Q_ProductLineID_E_-397703945_A_ManufacturerID_E_95_A_CategoryID_E_16)
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Black Vulmea on August 03, 2014, 07:17:46 PM
Quote from: The Ent;774781Roadhouse has one nice oneliner.
"I used to fuck guys like you in prison!" is the unintentionally greatest line in cinema.
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Opaopajr on August 03, 2014, 07:17:52 PM
Quote from: sniderman;775115Noble Knight has a Late, Late Show "boxed set" which is a b undle of I and II for $20. You can pick up I, II, and III for less than $30 there.

Late, Late Show in stock (http://www.nobleknight.com/ViewProducts.asp_Q_ProductLineID_E_-397703945_A_ManufacturerID_E_95_A_CategoryID_E_16)

OOH! Hey, thanks! Wait, it doesn't have the same cover as the glossy amazon one, and there's 3 editions. Is there a big difference between editions/additions, and what does that glossy cover one do different?
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Snowman0147 on August 03, 2014, 07:42:54 PM
I like Sharknado and Sharknado II.  Yes they are dumb movies that are trashy.  Though how many movies try to hide this fact?  Too damn many and that brings out the beauty of Sharknado.  Sharknado is honest with you.  When you sit down to watch Sharknado you know your gonna watch a dumb movie and Sharknado delivers it in a epic fashion.  I think this is the next Evil Dead.
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: James Gillen on August 04, 2014, 12:31:43 AM
Quote from: Black Vulmea;775349"I used to fuck guys like you in prison!" is the unintentionally greatest line in cinema.

"Pain don't hurt."
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Marleycat on August 04, 2014, 01:17:32 AM
Quote from: Snowman0147;775369I like Sharknado and Sharknado II.  Yes they are dumb movies that are trashy.  Though how many movies try to hide this fact?  Too damn many and that brings out the beauty of Sharknado.  Sharknado is honest with you.  When you sit down to watch Sharknado you know your gonna watch a dumb movie and Sharknado delivers it in a epic fashion.  I think this is the next Evil Dead.

I heard Evil Dead is going to be a TV series with Bruce Campbell no less. God please be watchable.
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Just Another Snake Cult on August 04, 2014, 01:36:12 AM
Quote from: Opaopajr;775350OOH! Hey, thanks! Wait, it doesn't have the same cover as the glossy amazon one, and there's 3 editions. Is there a big difference between editions/additions, and what does that glossy cover one do different?

It was originally published as three books with tri-color covers (Black, white, and red). A later edition in the early 90's compressed it from three books down to two (Getting rid of one of the several sample adventures in the process) and had color covers.

A rare first printing of the first edition was spiral bound and had a B&W cover.

Stellar Games intrigues me. They and their odd line-up of punky, lo-fi  games are a subject that requires much further research.
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: sniderman on August 04, 2014, 05:31:40 AM
Quote from: Opaopajr;775350OOH! Hey, thanks! Wait, it doesn't have the same cover as the glossy amazon one, and there's 3 editions. Is there a big difference between editions/additions, and what does that glossy cover one do different?

There were originally three books released for the game -- the core rules and two supplements (LLS rules, LLS II: The Exploitation Sequel, LLS III: Demona's Revenge; all with b&w covers with red titles) -- that were later recombined into two larger books (full color covers). The only difference I've found is that one of the adventures -- "Ga-May-Rah vs. The Space Asparagus" -- was dropped when the books were reduced from three volumes to two.

My overview of the game/system: http://savageafterworld.blogspot.com/2013/12/obsolete-simulations-roundup-it-came.html

EDIT: Ninja'ed by JASC above. I'll agree about Stellar Games. Loved Nightlife and Ace Agents as well.
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Just Another Snake Cult on August 04, 2014, 11:51:38 AM
Quote from: sniderman;775510EDIT: Ninja'ed by JASC above. I'll agree about Stellar Games. Loved Nightlife and Ace Agents as well.

NIGHTLIFE is a weird gem that really needs re-discovery. I fucking loved that game.

Please tell us more about Ace Agents, that one's completely new to me.

EDIT: Read your blog post, Sniderman. The idea of "GM as a regional TV horror host" is really inspired.
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Armchair Gamer on August 04, 2014, 12:13:54 PM
While I haven't seen either Sharknado film, I have to admit, when reading the Bulette entry in the 13th Age Bestiary last week, my mind did turn to the possibility of cloudsharks as an Overworld hazard ...
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: James Gillen on August 05, 2014, 02:49:00 AM
Quote from: Just Another Snake Cult;775612NIGHTLIFE is a weird gem that really needs re-discovery. I fucking loved that game.

Oh yes.

jg
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: ArrozConLeche on August 05, 2014, 09:25:04 AM
Quote from: Black Vulmea;775349"I used to fuck guys like you in prison!" is the unintentionally greatest line in cinema.

Patrick Swayze and the redneck bar scenes are the only thing that give this movie any entertainment value. The karate fight was alright too.
Title: Sharknado needs a setting!
Post by: Matt on August 05, 2014, 09:39:55 PM
Didn't anybody else think "Sharknado" was trying too hard to be a "so bad it's good" movie and thereby utterly failing due to its self-conscious cheesiness? I found it unfunny and unwatchable. Kept fast-forwarding in hopes it would improve, but it never did. Couldn't be bothered with the sequel, though my wife says it's better than the original.

I'd rather watch a movie that is trying to be good but failing due to general incompetence, like "Plan 9" or "Star Crash."

But playing an RPG based on cruddy Syfy movies is appealing.