Quote from: RPGPundit;673138I can't be sure whether you can or not; I have yet to meet anyone who has... the two options I am sure exist are "can enjoy watching them ironically" or "can't enjoy watching them".

The third option of "Can enjoy watching them unironically" I think would only apply to someone who was a character in one of those movies.

JG

Well, I love old Godzilla and Ray Harryhausen movies. But those were actually pretty good. There must be a tipping point where things are beyond the pale cheesy.

Is it the CGI, the title, or the storyboarding that pushes things too far? Perhaps rubber monster suits and claymation brought about a pathos now sorely lacking. We need Helen Mirren and Colin Firth in one of these flicks.

Quote from: Opaopajr;673171Well, I love old Godzilla and Ray Harryhausen movies. But those were actually pretty good. There must be a tipping point where things are beyond the pale cheesy.

Is it the CGI, the title, or the storyboarding that pushes things too far? Perhaps rubber monster suits and claymation brought about a pathos now sorely lacking. We need Helen Mirren and Colin Firth in one of these flicks.

You're kind of making unfair comparisons here. Godzilla started out as Japanese cultural reaction to atomic bomb. Ray Harryhausen was making films where, at the time, those special effects were top of the line, and the films also combine them with immortal plot. If you want to compare films it'd be fairer to compare Pacific Rim and Godzilla, rather than Sharkanado. Sharkanado is more deserving of comparison to Attack of the Killer Tomatos or Attack of the 50 Feet Tall Woman.

Come on. Anybody who writes a script where there are tornadoes full of flying sharks and that is the core idea of your movie baked in a "motley crew of survivors try to make it til the next day" archetype HAS to know this is cheesy and over the top beyond belief. The writers themselves HAVE to do this ironically. I cannot believe they would do it seriously as in "WOW that will OWN Lord of the Rings right there!"

It's for the LULZ. And why not? I would watch it and laugh my ass off throughout, potentially.

Well I need to flesh out Sassy Sidekick class (which doesn't have to be a sidekick, but has to be sassy!).

I'm thinking Cha 9+ prerequisite. Possibly under Rogue group or maybe its own group.

d8 Hit Dice, can use armor and weapons like a Bard, but has Magic User BAB/THAC0. (Has WP of Warrior and NWP of Priest, so lots of slots!)

Can use all support items, healing and defense, with regards to the time period (protect scrolls, potions, first aid kits, ER crash carts, etc).

Has Thief Skills of Hide in Shadows, Move Silently, Listen, and Read Languages, but much slower progression...

Has 3rd class ability of Procurer: finds brokers, patrons, and contacts faster than others. A bonus to reaction rolls of +2 when doing such business.

Hmmm... what else?

http://www.motherjones.com/mixed-media/2013/07/sharknado-sharknado-sharknado-sharknado-sharknado

QuoteChris Vaccaro, a spokesman for the National Weather Service, responded similarly: "Sharknado seems to fulfill Syfy's description as 'a media destination for imagination-based entertainment,'" Vaccaro writes in a statement sent to Mother Jones. Even so, he humored me with his advice for sharknado readiness. "As with any waterspout or tornado, the best advice is to be in an interior part of the lowest floor of a sturdy building—and not outside, whether sharks are raining down or not." (The White House did not respond to my tweet asking how President Barack Obama would respond if sharknadoes occurred over an American city on his watch.)

Same as usual, deny, fire Clinton.

Quote from: Rincewind1;673612Same as usual, deny, fire Clinton.

That is old school.

New school is sweep it under the rug, let Clinton yell "What does it matter that Americans were killed!", and try to stir up faux racism in a self-defense case as cover. Oh, and through in lots of gossip column chaff as well.

Quote from: jeff37923;673761That is old school.

New school is sweep it under the rug, let Clinton yell "What does it matter that Americans were killed!", and try to stir up faux racism in a self-defense case as cover. Oh, and through in lots of gossip column chaff as well.

Faux racism?

Quote from: Nexus;673767Faux racism?

"Trayvon Martin was shot and killed for the crime of walking while black!!!", has been the current rallying cry.

Quote from: Nexus;673767Faux racism?

Yeah, read up on the case and the political hay being made from it and you will see.

And now I'm confused on my own Sharknado topic... :confused:

Impressive!

(edit: No, don't explain. A joke explained is a dead joke. Let it lie, like a bad toupee.)

Quote from: jeff37923;673761That is old school.

New school is sweep it under the rug, let Clinton yell "What does it matter that Americans were killed!", and try to stir up faux racism in a self-defense case as cover. Oh, and through in lots of gossip column chaff as well.

Well, I know she left of her own accord, but it was either that or get fired. And considering the Democrats want to field her in 2016, she knew the name of the game as well.

Let's return to Sharkanado after the brief political tangent.

Quote from: Benoist;673498Come on. Anybody who writes a script where there are tornadoes full of flying sharks and that is the core idea of your movie baked in a "motley crew of survivors try to make it til the next day" archetype HAS to know this is cheesy and over the top beyond belief. The writers themselves HAVE to do this ironically. I cannot believe they would do it seriously as in "WOW that will OWN Lord of the Rings right there!"

It's for the LULZ. And why not? I would watch it and laugh my ass off throughout, potentially.

The whole point of Asylum films is to take a film like Transformers and make a cheesy B film called Transmorphers.
Snakes on a Plane -> Snakes on a Train
Abraham Lincoln Vampire hunter -> Abraham Lincoln vs. Zombies
20,000 Leagues Under the Sea -> 30,000 Leagues Under the Sea

The company refers to their films as "Mockbusters", they are intended to be a joke from the getgo.

There's a delightful bit of ouroboros going on with Snakes on a Plane and Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter.

I just need a good source for weapon stats for TSR D&D. Might have to rediscover Alternity and Mask of the Red Death in the used bins. I'll go double check Stars Without Number for weapon readouts.