Quote from: Blackhand;558149Did you ever consider, for one second, that it could actually have been planned that way?  

Maybe, to accommodate people who have other information than what you yourself glean from reading the cryptic manuals?

Also, the Dark Eldar that you fight in BC have way more balls than those you fight in say...DH or OW.  That's the game's mechanics.  You'd be bitchin it was weak if it was given at 2 in BC.

if you can read my mind so well why are you wasting your own time asking me anything?

Did anyone buy the book already and can give as a first opinon/ review?

Quote from: UnbremsbarerUwe;559107Did anyone buy the book already and can give as a first opinon/ review?

Welcome to the RPG Site, dude.

Yeah, gotta get used to this board.

Quote from: UnbremsbarerUwe;559107Did anyone buy the book already and can give as a first opinon/ review?

What would you like to know.

Well... content, good entries, bad entries - that kind of things.

The first chapter is a list of monsters in the Koronus Expanse.
The next chapter is stats for Xeno races in the Expanse: Eldar, Orks, Rak'Gol, Stryxis and some Yu'Vath stuff.
The third chapter lists denizens of the warp.
The final chapter is a random monster creation system.

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;559525The next chapter is stats for Xeno races in the Expanse: Eldar, Orks, Rak'Gol, Stryxis and some Yu'Vath stuff.

I had so much fun playing the Stryxis fleet in Lure of the Expanse. They were all utterly nuts, but pleasant about it, especially if you hated Eldar too.

"Honoured bipeds! We hate the plastic bipeds. Hates them. HATE."

Quote from: Ladybird;559531I had so much fun playing the Stryxis fleet in Lure of the Expanse. They were all utterly nuts, but pleasant about it, especially if you hated Eldar too.

"Honoured bipeds! We hate the plastic bipeds. Hates them. HATE."

Pretty much all the FFG created fluff is fitting and well produced. The book goes into much more detail about them and their vat grown slaves.

Most of the book is written from the perspective of a Rogue trader's bodyguard as they investigate and encounter all this stuff.

There;s another alien race called the Sslyth that get a few pages but few people seem have given them good feedback. Not a great loss. Serpentine aliens. Nuff said.

I haven't read the book yet, I've been running False Prophets or whatever it's called from the Black Crusade book. Had to change a few things (a lot of things) as the main villain can one shot almost anyone with his Bolt of Change (psyker power). 6d10 if it hits, goes through most armour.

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;559534There;s another alien race called the Sslyth that get a few pages but few people seem have given them good feedback. Not a great loss. Serpentine aliens. Nuff said.

I haven't read the book yet, I've been running False Prophets or whatever it's called from the Black Crusade book. Had to change a few things (a lot of things) as the main villain can one shot almost anyone with his Bolt of Change (psyker power). 6d10 if it hits, goes through most armour.

You do know there are models for Sslyth right?  Probably they don't have a lot of feedback because like everything else the rpg is made to mimic the model rules / fluff.  Not vice versa.

Also, Bolt of Change regularly rips tanks apart in one shot.  That also is from the wargame.

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;559534Pretty much all the FFG created fluff is fitting and well produced. The book goes into much more detail about them and their vat grown slaves.

There;s another alien race called the Sslyth that get a few pages but few people seem have given them good feedback. Not a great loss. Serpentine aliens. Nuff said.

I haven't read the book yet, I've been running False Prophets or whatever it's called from the Black Crusade book. Had to change a few things (a lot of things) as the main villain can one shot almost anyone with his Bolt of Change (psyker power). 6d10 if it hits, goes through most armour.

I wouldn't have went the biotech route with them - my Stryxis were scavengers / traders, who had their own alien concepts of value, but were quite hardy (One of them had once shot a plasma pistol at it's own chest and survived, apparently - don't ask me, I wasn't there, it's just what the character said). But, that's my table, not theirs.

Sslyth sound cool, but it's a daft name. I've got a similar concept race in my SWN sector (It's not an original concept, though).

The party had best avoid getting shot by the Bolt of Change. That's a killer weapon.

The bestiary sounds like a cool book, actually.

I can't comment on this specific book, but I will say I agree with Ghost Whistler that the way FFG has handled these properties annoys me. And the description of this book sounds annoying to me in the same way that their past books were.

I, too, cannot stand having the information spread across a bunch of misc books over half a decade (and no, I don't want to make my own stats up that's why I buy books). If FFG were faster, and had some kind of digital tools to help track the info, I would have found it a little more tolerable.

I gave up on ever trying to run their games (I foolishly bought into the first three lines) and will probably end up selling the books off that I did buy if I ever get around to it.

I just do not understand how FFG operate the way they do. Ok, Only War might wel come out in a superior state as a result of this bizarre playtest - but that still means people have paid an extra twenty bucks to them for that to be the case. I cannot get my head around that, but people are happy to fork out for this. Extraordinary.

If they had made more of an effort to explicitly make the books compatible that would be something. I fear the game will end up dying the death of a thousand cuts; lots of little rules quirks (usually errors made in the writing of rules not playtested, such as the fact BC in places still refers to some skills by older names even though that ruleset changes them, or that the stats for the Splinter Rife in BC and OW are slightly different - and, according to FFG, both entries are correct at the time of writing) and inconsistencies will bog it down and drown it. So for example, instead of giving NO rules for vehicles except in INto The Storm, which is the RT players guide, they could point to that book, which itself could have been thus made more generically. Same deal with voidships.

Sadly when the hobby is filled with fanboys and yes men happy enough to pay 20$ for a playtested playtest things are never going to change. I like the games, I'm happy to play them, but that's in spite of these issues - and I haven't played enough for them to become a big deal. I have yet to use vehicles or voidships, for example.

Vehicles were first handled in Dark Heresy Apocrypha.

Just sayin'.

Quote from: jgants;559770I can't comment on this specific book, but I will say I agree with Ghost Whistler that the way FFG has handled these properties annoys me. And the description of this book sounds annoying to me in the same way that their past books were.

I, too, cannot stand having the information spread across a bunch of misc books over half a decade (and no, I don't want to make my own stats up that's why I buy books). If FFG were faster, and had some kind of digital tools to help track the info, I would have found it a little more tolerable.

I gave up on ever trying to run their games (I foolishly bought into the first three lines) and will probably end up selling the books off that I did buy if I ever get around to it.

I like their games but the setup is just like the OWoD and I give up on that after awhile also. So I agree with your sentiment about being far too spread out for no good reason. It breaks my cardinal rule, Marley's rule of 5.