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Title: RIP Dave Trampier :-(
Post by: Sacrosanct on March 28, 2014, 12:23:56 AM
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/thesouthern/obituary.aspx?n=david-trampier&pid=170356694&fhid=8429

this is going around the blogosphere, and seems legit.  Same age as Dave, and same location where he was a cabbie.

I am very sad.  Hopefully he is at peace
Title: RIP Dave Trampier :-(
Post by: thedungeondelver on March 28, 2014, 02:44:35 AM
That is a shame.  I guess we'll never know what really happened to drive him off like that.
Title: RIP Dave Trampier :-(
Post by: artikid on March 28, 2014, 03:23:02 AM
Very sad news if this proves true.
Title: RIP Dave Trampier :-(
Post by: JeremyR on March 28, 2014, 06:10:38 AM
What I kinda find depressing is he apparently was a cab driver in Illinois.

To me, everyone involved in D&D in the early days should have been wealthy.

About as depressing as Louise Brooks (one of the great actresses of the 1920s) having to work in a department store...
Title: RIP Dave Trampier :-(
Post by: Omega on March 28, 2014, 07:34:28 AM
Links dead.

There is an article elsewhere I read last year about a fans quest to find Trampier and apparently he did and talked about the Wormy comic and other things.

Apparently Trampier didnt think much of RPGs and there was a falling out with TSR over renegotiating pay so he quit. Why he quit art I havent heard. But I have known a number of popular artists who just up and quit and vanish.

I'll ping Tom Wham and see if he has heard of this. Likely. They are related.
Title: RIP Dave Trampier :-(
Post by: Just Another Snake Cult on March 28, 2014, 08:07:35 AM
I have a loved one who struggles with Paranoid Personality Disorder. It's a hellish, life-crushing, joy-destroying, and utterly poisonous mental illness. IF that was DAT's problem (as rumored), we can at least take a little bitter comfort in that his pain is over.
Title: RIP Dave Trampier :-(
Post by: Shawn Driscoll on March 28, 2014, 08:11:17 AM
The link takes you to the main page. Then just go a few days ago instead of today's obit list.
Title: RIP Dave Trampier :-(
Post by: Omega on March 28, 2014, 08:16:31 AM
Quote from: Shawn Driscoll;739297The link takes you to the main page. Then just go a few days ago instead of today's obit list.
No. The link took me to a blank page. Was able to backtrack it though.
Title: RIP Dave Trampier :-(
Post by: Shawn Driscoll on March 28, 2014, 08:19:44 AM
Quote from: Omega;739298No. The link took me to a blank page. Was able to backtrack it though.
Ok. The page is a moving one.
Title: RIP Dave Trampier :-(
Post by: thedungeondelver on March 28, 2014, 08:39:17 AM
His friend and brother-in-law Tom Wham (did humorous cartoons/illos for D&D way way back in the beginning, plus did the art for a lot of TSR board games) confirmed it, by the way.
Title: RIP Dave Trampier :-(
Post by: Omega on March 28, 2014, 08:54:29 AM
Quote from: thedungeondelver;739302His friend and brother-in-law Tom Wham (did humorous cartoons/illos for D&D way way back in the beginning, plus did the art for a lot of TSR board games) confirmed it, by the way.

Tom also desighed the board games he illustrated. Awfull Green Things. King of the Tabletop/Kings & Things, Snits Revenge, etc.

I pinged him off a message but havent gotten a reply back yet. As predicted - hes probably swamped with those.

This is doubly sad as there had been attempts to get Tramp to collect his art and do a kickstarter or PDF/POD production before this.
Title: RIP Dave Trampier :-(
Post by: Benoist on March 28, 2014, 12:55:31 PM
Tom is at Gary Con right now. It's in full swing this week end.
Title: RIP Dave Trampier :-(
Post by: Bobloblah on March 28, 2014, 12:59:35 PM
Sad to hear. He was one of the early artists whose work I truly liked. RIP
Title: RIP Dave Trampier :-(
Post by: Akrasia on March 28, 2014, 01:09:59 PM
Here is a more direct link to the announcement:
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/thesouthern/obituary.aspx?n=david-trampier&pid=170356694&fhid=8429

I'm very sad to hear of DAT's passing.  His work fired my imagination during my early years in this hobby.  I loved 'Emirikol the Chaotic' and the picture with the halfling and dwarves in the PHB.  Heck, I loved all of his work!  He was the greatest of the classic FRPG artists, in my opinion.

RIP, mighty Emirikol!
Title: RIP Dave Trampier :-(
Post by: Sacrosanct on March 28, 2014, 01:17:24 PM
To say he was an inspiration to me is an understatement.  Notice something familiar with the cover art to one of my games?

(http://www.sacrosanctgames.com/Images/AP%20promo.jpg)
Title: RIP Dave Trampier :-(
Post by: Akrasia on March 28, 2014, 01:20:30 PM
A post on DAT at Tor.com:
http://www.tor.com/blogs/2014/03/david-a-trampier-obituary
Title: RIP Dave Trampier :-(
Post by: Warthur on March 28, 2014, 05:05:27 PM
Quote from: Benoist;739367Tom is at Gary Con right now. It's in full swing this week end.
Silver lining: at least he's surrounded by people who'd respect Dave and his contribution and feel the loss with him.
Title: RIP Dave Trampier :-(
Post by: Benoist on March 28, 2014, 05:34:12 PM
Quote from: Warthur;739407Silver lining: at least he's surrounded by people who'd respect Dave and his contribution and feel the loss with him.

Absolutely.
Title: RIP Dave Trampier :-(
Post by: danbuter on March 28, 2014, 11:50:50 PM
Dang, this sucks. It seems there aren't too many old-timers left, especially the last few years. RIP.
Title: RIP Dave Trampier :-(
Post by: FASERIP on March 29, 2014, 12:21:35 AM
Quote from: Akrasia;739374He was the greatest of the classic FRPG artists, in my opinion.

Agreed wholeheartedly.

Tremendously underrated, by the same token.
Title: RIP Dave Trampier :-(
Post by: flyerfan1991 on March 29, 2014, 12:39:39 AM
A shame.

He also did the illustrations for Avalon Hill's Titan, I believe.
Title: RIP Dave Trampier :-(
Post by: arminius on March 30, 2014, 10:41:15 AM
Co-designed Titan (including the pre-AH edition), actually, according to BGG and Wikipedia. Apparently he also had a hand in the pre-AH expansion that was rolled into the AH edition.

This page adds that he published a couple articles, including an analysis of Titan (in The General): http://crypticarchivist.blogspot.com/2014/03/rare-dave-trampier-art-part-2.html?m=1
Title: RIP Dave Trampier :-(
Post by: soviet on March 30, 2014, 11:14:12 AM
Quote from: Sacrosanct;739377To say he was an inspiration to me is an understatement.  Notice something familiar with the cover art to one of my games?

(http://www.sacrosanctgames.com/Images/AP%20promo.jpg)

I do actually, but not what you think. See the shadowmage on the purple card in the top right? That's one of our group's player characters, I commissioned Storn Cook to paint it a couple of years ago as a gift for the player's birthday.

Storn retained the publication/selling rights, so no worries there, it's just a small world that's all!
Title: RIP Dave Trampier :-(
Post by: Doughdee222 on March 30, 2014, 01:03:33 PM
Another piece of my youth is gone. I liked DAT's work and Titan is one of my favorite board games.

There is apparently a larger story though concerning how he "disappeared" and stopped drawing. I don't know if anyone can explain in fully though. Maybe it will take a half dozen people who knew him to come together and add up the pieces. Phil Foglio has a life beyond TSR. Other artists moved on to do book covers or game cards. Trampier didn't. I just wonder why. Not making enough money? Okay, be a taxi driver to supplement the income but why stop drawing and game design all together?

Just sad.
Title: RIP Dave Trampier :-(
Post by: Black Vulmea on March 30, 2014, 01:33:32 PM
(http://jlutes.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/divineright.jpg) (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_2kYwUiN0p5M/TDtcnoxG-ZI/AAAAAAAAAEg/QkBonsV-Jlc/s1600/minaria.jpg)

'nuf said.
Title: RIP Dave Trampier :-(
Post by: Larsdangly on March 30, 2014, 01:51:59 PM
Wow; I had forgotten he did the Divine Right map. That map is so awesome it inspired me to spend 6 months creating a dedicated rpg for it. It remains one of my favorite childhood gaming memories.
Title: RIP Dave Trampier :-(
Post by: JRT on March 31, 2014, 08:21:37 AM
Quote from: Doughdee222;739712Trampier didn't. I just wonder why. Not making enough money? Okay, be a taxi driver to supplement the income but why stop drawing and game design all together?

Maybe he just needed a change.

It can be very hard for people who are so passionate about their likes to understand how creators decide to change.  But they are human beings, and people give up hobbies and change careers all the time.  It's possible Tramp never saw his art as anything but an extension of his gaming, for instance.  There are people who follow their dreams only to discover that reality can interfere with it--people open small businesses all the time only to close them later.

This has happened to other people.  Roger Moore left TSR right when it became WoTC, and apparently abandoned the gaming hobby altogether.  Considering how prolific a writer he was in the early days of the hobby, and how long he stayed at TSR, that seemed strange but from what people have reported, he just wanted a change in his life.  (He's been to a few GenCons since then but mostly cause his son was interested in things like Magic: The Gathering).
Title: RIP Dave Trampier :-(
Post by: beeber on March 31, 2014, 03:38:08 PM
RIP :(
Title: RIP Dave Trampier :-(
Post by: RPGPundit on April 02, 2014, 12:01:15 AM
A huge stylistic influence on the nascence of the hobby, to be sure.
Title: RIP Dave Trampier :-(
Post by: Zachary The First on April 03, 2014, 09:23:35 PM
How can anyone look at that map and not have their imagination immediately fired up?
Title: RIP Dave Trampier :-(
Post by: James Gillen on April 04, 2014, 07:44:09 PM
Quote from: Zachary The First;740726How can anyone look at that map and not have their imagination immediately fired up?

"The Sea of Drowning Men."
The Tourism Department was really working overtime on that one.

JG
Title: RIP Dave Trampier :-(
Post by: saskganesh on April 04, 2014, 08:36:25 PM
Yeah, great map and rich setting. Perfect for an RPG. I've always ripped stuff from that for my games

It's a real shame about Trampier. A lot of talent. As a fan, I wish he stayed in the hobby, but I can sympathise with the walking-away-from-it-all part.
Title: RIP Dave Trampier :-(
Post by: Akrasia on April 05, 2014, 01:27:18 AM
Is/was there a Divine Right gazetteer?  Something that could be used for an AD&D (or any FRPG) campaign?