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Title: Quintessential True Neutral?
Post by: RPGPundit on August 02, 2015, 05:03:16 AM
So, I think this one is next.  Is there anyone on the planet who's true Neutral? Or is Kevin Siembieda right?
Title: Quintessential True Neutral?
Post by: The Ent on August 02, 2015, 06:51:41 AM
The Neutral Planet in Futurama, duh.
Title: Quintessential True Neutral?
Post by: RunningLaser on August 02, 2015, 07:10:02 AM
Kevin's writing on true neutral was probably the only hard rule in his games.  That's one alignment that never made much sense to me, and I might be wrong here, but didn't it's definition change a bit over time?  To me, something that is true neutral would be without bias.  

If a game's going to have alignments, I did prefer Palladium's way of doing it over D&D's.
Title: Quintessential True Neutral?
Post by: Daztur on August 02, 2015, 08:15:46 AM
Arthur Dent.

Have a lot of TN PCs when I don`t want to deal with the alignment system.

TN characters ideologically dedicated to balance are often portrayed as rather ridiculous.
Title: Quintessential True Neutral?
Post by: IggytheBorg on August 02, 2015, 12:48:07 PM
Yeah.  I can't imagine that a person who really IS true Neutral would be motivated enough by anything in the cosmos to actually take up adventuring.
Title: Quintessential True Neutral?
Post by: ThatChrisGuy on August 02, 2015, 01:07:14 PM
Rincewind.
Title: Quintessential True Neutral?
Post by: Daztur on August 02, 2015, 04:17:00 PM
Quote from: IggytheBorg;846030Yeah.  I can't imagine that a person who really IS true Neutral would be motivated enough by anything in the cosmos to actually take up adventuring.

Don`t really agree. Plenty of motivations that aren`t really good, evil, lawful or chaotic. The old standbys of greed and vengeance work fine.
Title: Quintessential True Neutral?
Post by: James Gillen on August 02, 2015, 05:34:49 PM
(Uatu) The Watcher.
Title: Quintessential True Neutral?
Post by: Turanil on August 02, 2015, 05:39:57 PM
For me, True Neutral would be a total pragmatist who abhors ideologies.
Title: Quintessential True Neutral?
Post by: Frundsberg on August 02, 2015, 06:37:35 PM
Haviland Tuf.
Title: Quintessential True Neutral?
Post by: IggytheBorg on August 02, 2015, 07:33:22 PM
Quote from: Daztur;846075Don`t really agree. Plenty of motivations that aren`t really good, evil, lawful or chaotic. The old standbys of greed and vengeance work fine.

Those strike me as evil motives, generally.  Or maybe vengeance can be lawful, if it involves  a code of honor kind of thing.  Still bound up in ideology, if you ask me.
Title: Quintessential True Neutral?
Post by: RPGPundit on August 04, 2015, 04:10:41 AM
Quote from: The Ent;845976The Neutral Planet in Futurama, duh.

Yeah, but they don't count. They were born with a heart full of Neutrality.
Title: Quintessential True Neutral?
Post by: The Ent on August 04, 2015, 04:13:40 AM
Quote from: RPGPundit;846427Yeah, but they don't count. They were born with a heart full of Neutrality.

Indeed, they were. :D
Title: Quintessential True Neutral?
Post by: KrakaJak on August 04, 2015, 07:34:21 PM
Steve Jobs?
Title: Quintessential True Neutral?
Post by: James Gillen on August 05, 2015, 10:57:22 AM
Quote from: KrakaJak;846563Steve Jobs?

That would be more proof of the Palladium thesis that the divider between Good and Evil is Selfish.

JG
Title: Quintessential True Neutral?
Post by: KrakaJak on August 05, 2015, 01:51:24 PM
As far as I know, he was both selfish as well as incredibly giving. Led a company which built extreme profits on the backs of underprivileged Chinese workers and it created an information based infrastructure that benefitted the whole world. He's given millions to Charity as well as stole a few hundred bucks Wozniak deserved for his work on Breakout.
Title: Quintessential True Neutral?
Post by: RPGPundit on August 07, 2015, 12:21:25 AM
So true neutral is just "split personality"?
Title: Quintessential True Neutral?
Post by: Daztur on August 07, 2015, 01:43:02 AM
Quote from: IggytheBorg;846131Those strike me as evil motives, generally.  Or maybe vengeance can be lawful, if it involves  a code of honor kind of thing.  Still bound up in ideology, if you ask me.

Don't really think so.

Simple greed of the "go into ancient ruins to look for treasure" doesn't help anyone and doesn't hurt anyone and is about as common a D&D motivation as you can get. Pure neutral that.

Also in sooooooooooooo many PC backgrounds you get "the poopy head orcs clan killed my family, so I want to go kill those poopy-headed orcs." Seen that so many times I'm bored sick of it but I think that's a great TN motivation. Not really evil to want to kill some evil bastards who killed you family but it isn't exactly a shining light of altruism either.
Title: Quintessential True Neutral?
Post by: TristramEvans on August 07, 2015, 03:40:45 AM
When I think of true neutrality, I think of that old hick couple sitting on their porch, their only response to the world around them deadpan apathy.

"Henry, looks like them aliens landed again"
"Reckon"