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Project Black Flag Playtests

Started by GeekyBugle, January 18, 2023, 10:52:30 PM

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zircher

#45
January 21, 2023, 08:12:43 PM
I'll certainly take a look at Black Flag if ORC has no morality clause, otherwise, it is a non-starter.
You can find my solo Tarot based rules for Amber on my home page.
http://www.tangent-zero.com

Jaeger

#46
January 24, 2023, 06:25:35 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on January 20, 2023, 01:50:44 PM
....

Was there any doubt it was going to be woke?

The interesting thing is this:

It's a totally not 5e clone

Presumably published under ORC or some other custom license

What's WotC going to do about it?

How Open is the license they are going to use?

Are there ANY cool mechanics or innovations?

That's the stuff I'm really curious about.

All very good questions!

Unfortunately, I don't think any of that matters any more:


Quote from: KOBOLD PRESS TWITTER on January 20, 2023, 01:50:44 PM
https://twitter.com/KoboldPress/status/1617915504710111232
A Kobold is on the rise!

Reintroducing Chelsea Steverson, who's now our Marketing Director!

Read about her now!
💖: https://koboldpress.com/welcome-new-marketing-director-chelsea-dot-steverson/

📸:
@masonwarddng
| #RaiseTheFlag


"The envious are not satisfied with equality; they secretly yearn for superiority and revenge."

Chris24601

#47
January 24, 2023, 06:48:31 PM
Quote from: Jaeger on January 24, 2023, 06:25:35 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on January 20, 2023, 01:50:44 PM
....

Was there any doubt it was going to be woke?

The interesting thing is this:

It's a totally not 5e clone

Presumably published under ORC or some other custom license

What's WotC going to do about it?

How Open is the license they are going to use?

Are there ANY cool mechanics or innovations?

That's the stuff I'm really curious about.

All very good questions!

Unfortunately, I don't think any of that matters any more:


Quote from: KOBOLD PRESS TWITTER on January 20, 2023, 01:50:44 PM
https://twitter.com/KoboldPress/status/1617915504710111232
A Kobold is on the rise!

Reintroducing Chelsea Steverson, who's now our Marketing Director!

Read about her now!
💖: https://koboldpress.com/welcome-new-marketing-director-chelsea-dot-steverson/

📸:
@masonwarddng
| #RaiseTheFlag


Between Paizo, BFRP sliding woke, and Kobold... I wonder how many of the ORC-based SRDs won't be shoving their politics down their users' throats.

I'm fully expecting gender-fluid elves with dangerhair as their natural hair color range, a dwarven "non-binary" culture with bearded female dwarves indistinguishable from the males and descriptions of halfling relations with humans that will make NAMBLA ecstatic. Orcs will be noble and misunderstood by oppressive humans.

Batjon

#48
January 24, 2023, 06:58:23 PM
"Dot brings a wealth of marketing experience to Kobold Press, serving as Marketing and Communications Director for various businesses over the last 10 years, including non-profits, education institutions, live production, and gaming events. In addition, she has been an influential presence in the tabletop community over the last 6 years as both a producer and creator. We are thrilled about her new role at Kobold Press and her plans as marketing lead for Project Black Flag and our other titles moving forward."


Completely ignoring Black Flag now and adding Kobold Press to my ignore list.

Opaopajr

#49
January 25, 2023, 07:13:00 AM
 8) Well someone must say it: That balayaged fuschia hair is en flique.  ;) I have been slain.

Am I doing the young and hip talk right?  ;D (Seriously though, I am a little jealous. In my day unnatural hair dyes were a bit more harsh and strictly in primary and secondary colors.)
Just make your fuckin\' guy and roll the dice, you pricks. Focus on what\'s interesting, not what gives you the biggest randomly generated virtual penis.  -- J Arcane
 
You know, people keep comparing non-TSR D&D to deck-building in Magic: the Gathering. But maybe it\'s more like Katamari Damacy. You keep sticking shit on your characters until they are big enough to be a star.
-- talysman

Semaj Khan

#50
January 25, 2023, 11:11:57 AM
Quote from: MerrillWeathermay on January 19, 2023, 06:46:12 PM
Are white males actually allowed to participate?

Here is their brand spanking new Marketing Director.

https://koboldpress.com/welcome-new-marketing-director-chelsea-dot-steverson/

You draw your own conclusions about how much input will come from anyone with pale skin and uses his dick correctly.
Walk amongst the natives by day, but in your heart be Superman.

Effete

#51
January 25, 2023, 11:41:30 AM
Whatever. I'll reserve any judgment until I see the actual product. It's not like I'm excited for it anyway. I already have 5e and can play it however the hell I want. If Black Flag is just going to be a shameless 5e clone with no real innovation, I'll have about as much interest in it as I do with 90% of the OSR retro-clones (none).

I'm just wondering if this isn't some type of a business strategy from KP to try to wrest the woke crowd away from WotC after the latter's "sToP tHe BiGoTs" virtue signalling campaign. After all, it seems this lady is only in charge of marketing, not any actual development.

Ruprecht

#52
January 25, 2023, 11:46:40 AM
Quote from: Chris24601 on January 24, 2023, 06:48:31 PM
I'm fully expecting gender-fluid elves
Elves are fairies after all.
Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing. ~Robert E. Howard

RebelSky

#53
January 25, 2023, 12:53:14 PM
I'm going to check it out. Anything to help hurt WotC I am in favor of. What WotC is trying to do transcends little political gripes because WotC is challenging the entire core of open source/licenses and big tech is starting to notice.

Kobold Press putting a single paragraph of stupid wokeness in one book is Insignificant compared to WotC trying to upend not just the RPG industry, but challenging open source itself.

rytrasmi

#54
January 25, 2023, 01:17:17 PM
Quote from: RebelSky on January 25, 2023, 12:53:14 PM
I'm going to check it out. Anything to help hurt WotC I am in favor of. What WotC is trying to do transcends little political gripes because WotC is challenging the entire core of open source/licenses and big tech is starting to notice.

Kobold Press putting a single paragraph of stupid wokeness in one book is Insignificant compared to WotC trying to upend not just the RPG industry, but challenging open source itself.
Yeah, I'm of the same mind.

Also, as colorful as she is, you can't judge someone based on looks. For every gruff looking guy who's actually super woke, there's a rowdy bitch with danger hair who's down to earth and fun.
The worms crawl in and the worms crawl out
The ones that crawl in are lean and thin
The ones that crawl out are fat and stout
Your eyes fall in and your teeth fall out
Your brains come tumbling down your snout
Be merry my friends
Be merry

Batjon

#55
January 25, 2023, 01:44:15 PM
I'm going to give it a look and a chance but not getting my hopes up.

zircher

#56
January 25, 2023, 01:51:36 PM
Kind of funny, I'm not interested in playing Black Flag as much as how can I hack it to do what I want.
You can find my solo Tarot based rules for Amber on my home page.
http://www.tangent-zero.com

Omega

#57
January 25, 2023, 02:10:04 PM
Kobold has been a deceptive company since 5e came out so all Black Flag is is another money grab.

zircher

#58
January 25, 2023, 02:30:07 PM
Given that they are already selling future compatible products for Black Flag, it's a fair to say they intend to profit from the project.  That's their prerogative as a business. 
[Doesn't mean that they'll get anything from me.]
You can find my solo Tarot based rules for Amber on my home page.
http://www.tangent-zero.com

Effete

#59
January 25, 2023, 03:57:49 PM
Quote from: rytrasmi on January 25, 2023, 01:17:17 PM
Also, as colorful as she is, you can't judge someone based on looks. For every gruff looking guy who's actually super woke, there's a rowdy bitch with danger hair who's down to earth and fun.

Can confirm. As a punkrocker in my youth, who dressed as gaudily and dyed his hair as garishly as any woke hipster today, plenty of people were surprised to find out I was raving capitalist with right-leaning politics. Nowadays I just look like a hillbilly, but that doesn't mean I don't throw on Dead Kennedys or Anti-flag once in a while (even if A-F are basically commies these days).
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