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Title: [PF] You are reincarnated as a black bear...
Post by: Tetsubo on October 25, 2010, 08:46:19 AM
Imagine that you are a 4th level Gnome Adept and while adventuring with a stalwart band of heroes you are killed. They can't Raise you but they can get you Reincarnated. You come back as a black bear. What would you do?

   This would be a NPC and my first instinct is to make him a Barbarian. But that almost seems too obvious. Anyone have any thoughts?

   Oddly, I just discovered that there is no black bear listing in the PFRD.
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Post by: MonkeyWrench on October 25, 2010, 10:01:40 AM
I'd start taking levels in Druid.  He's already an Adept so why not?
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Post by: The Butcher on October 25, 2010, 10:30:05 AM
In a word?

Panserbjorn.

(http://images.elfwood.com/art/e/v/everruler/panserbjorn2editsmall.jpg)
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Post by: Abyssal Maw on October 25, 2010, 10:36:23 AM
If it's an NPC why not just let it be a bear?
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Post by: Nightfall on October 26, 2010, 12:56:25 AM
Especially at 4th level. I mean just give him extra HD if you have to. But he's a freaking BEAR. I don't see the need to give him class levels especially if he was just a 4th level adept. (Which is a pretty sucky spellcasting class anyway.)
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Post by: Bloody Stupid Johnson on October 26, 2010, 01:24:56 AM
Add your Bear HD to Adept HD, take Natural Spell* with your new feat, and keep being an adept (will be awhile until you see a new level, since your ECL is now ridiculous). Maybe go off and get bitten by a werebear and see if the transformation runs both ways.


*yes alright technically he needs wild shape...but he's a bear!
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Post by: Nightfall on October 26, 2010, 01:34:09 AM
Or he can just be a bear. :P
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Post by: Nicephorus on October 26, 2010, 09:06:14 AM
I'd just keep him as an adept and let him cast spells as is given that bear is now his natural form.
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Post by: winkingbishop on October 26, 2010, 02:49:54 PM
I wouldn't care much about the class makeup.  However, now that he's a bear, I would definitely start looking into ways to add cybernetics.
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Post by: Bloody Stupid Johnson on October 26, 2010, 06:08:27 PM
Quote from: winkingbishop;412002I wouldn't care much about the class makeup.  However, now that he's a bear, I would definitely start looking into ways to add cybernetics.

Of course, cybernetics! He was a gnome, perhaps the other gnomes can help with this.

And naturally, flight and eye lasers are the other obvious improvements that all bears should have.
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Post by: Cole on October 26, 2010, 07:52:41 PM
My first instinct would be to trade his adept levels for Druid levels and start anew from there.
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Post by: Narf the Mouse on October 26, 2010, 10:31:17 PM
A bear's skull can stop the average bullet. The average bullet doesn't do much against the average bear's hide, either.
A brown bear can go 40 mph; a black bear can likely go faster.
Bears can knock your head off with casual strength.

He can be a bear. That's all he needs.
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Post by: Nightfall on October 27, 2010, 02:19:54 AM
Quote from: Bloody Stupid Johnson;412026And naturally, flight and eye lasers are the other obvious improvements that all bears should have.

Frickking lasers man!

Narf,

Thank you and again what I've been saying.
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Post by: Abyssal Maw on October 27, 2010, 09:04:01 AM
Or like.. a talking bear.

Is this all just theoretical or is this from a real game?

Talking bear is fine, it's just an npc after all. It doesn't all have to match some kind of mathematical model of the universe.
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Post by: Tetsubo on October 27, 2010, 09:18:06 AM
Quote from: Abyssal Maw;412108Or like.. a talking bear.

Is this all just theoretical or is this from a real game?

Talking bear is fine, it's just an npc after all. It doesn't all have to match some kind of mathematical model of the universe.

I'm going to be running a solo game for my wife. She will be playing an Oakling (think junior treant) Ranger. The Gnome Adept is going to be her sidekick.
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Post by: Bloody Stupid Johnson on October 27, 2010, 06:29:17 PM
Quote from: Nightfall;412091Frickking lasers man!

Narf,

Thank you and again what I've been saying.

Well I have had a couple of nearly fatal bear-related ranger encounters (at 3rd level or so), caused by underestimating what bears could do ("what? I didn't know they had a 40ft speed, they look so slow..." and "oh, they can climb..."). Evidently I should learn my lesson...
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Post by: Narf the Mouse on October 27, 2010, 08:30:31 PM
Quote from: Bloody Stupid Johnson;412231Well I have had a couple of nearly fatal bear-related ranger encounters (at 3rd level or so), caused by underestimating what bears could do ("what? I didn't know they had a 40ft speed, they look so slow..." and "oh, they can climb..."). Evidently I should learn my lesson...
Remember: Any bear you can see with your unaided eye, is close enough to chase down, kill and eat you.
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Post by: Planet Algol on October 27, 2010, 08:48:45 PM
Quote from: Bloody Stupid Johnson;412231Well I have had a couple of nearly fatal bear-related ranger encounters (at 3rd level or so), caused by underestimating what bears could do ("what? I didn't know they had a 40ft speed, they look so slow..." and "oh, they can climb..."). Evidently I should learn my lesson...

Some ranger...
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Post by: SgtSpaceWizard on October 27, 2010, 09:13:15 PM
The first thing I would do is shit someplace besides the woods. I mean, everyone expects that.
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Post by: Nightfall on October 27, 2010, 11:55:26 PM
So far I think this is the best thread I've seen on these boards in some time.

Especially the comedic aspects. :)
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Post by: RPGPundit on October 28, 2010, 04:29:33 PM
The question is what the fuck are you playing a Gnome for in the first place.  You can hide and pretend to be a black bear all you like, but in your soul you are still full of gnomish evil.

RPGPundit
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Post by: Cole on October 28, 2010, 07:46:45 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit;412476The question is what the fuck are you playing a Gnome for in the first place.  You can hide and pretend to be a black bear all you like, but in your soul you are still full of gnomish evil.

RPGPundit

People might trust the bear, unlike the gnome in its native shape.
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Post by: Nightfall on October 28, 2010, 09:35:47 PM
Cole makes a good point.
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Post by: Seanchai on October 29, 2010, 02:15:17 AM
Quote from: Cole;412542People might trust the bear, unlike the gnome in its native shape.

Particularly dancing in the fez...

Seanchai
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Post by: Cole on October 29, 2010, 11:31:24 AM
Quote from: Seanchai;412596Particularly dancing in the fez...

Seanchai

The Fez might hint at its gnomish nature. A dangerous risk, or merely a smug, cruel taunt?
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Post by: Seanchai on October 29, 2010, 11:39:11 AM
Quote from: Cole;412638The Fez might hint at its gnomish nature. A dangerous risk, or merely a smug, cruel taunt?

It's a magical fez. He's not going to just leave it behind now that he's a bear...

Seanchai
Title: [PF] You are reincarnated as a black bear...
Post by: Cole on October 29, 2010, 12:09:27 PM
Quote from: Seanchai;412641It's a magical fez. He's not going to just leave it behind now that he's a bear...

Seanchai

What, it's the One Fez?
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Post by: Drohem on October 29, 2010, 12:28:19 PM
I would just keep him as a bear and have it rise in Hit Dice as the character companion rises in levels.
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Post by: kregmosier on October 29, 2010, 01:24:13 PM
Have a small dark skinned boy and a black leopard show up asking where he's been... ;)
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Post by: Nightfall on October 29, 2010, 01:27:24 PM
I was thinking more of some human ranger in a green outfit come along and say "Stop stealing picnic baskets!"
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Post by: Seanchai on October 29, 2010, 02:14:19 PM
Quote from: Cole;412647What, it's the One Fez?

We don't know yet - all we know is that the bear is invisible while wearing it. If the bear is ever set on fire, we might see runes indicating that the fez is something more, but until that happens...

Seanchai
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Post by: Cole on October 29, 2010, 02:20:57 PM
Quote from: Seanchai;412683We don't know yet - all we know is that the bear is invisible while wearing it. If the bear is ever set on fire, we might see runes indicating that the fez is something more, but until that happens...

Seanchai

Build a Gnome a fire, he's warm for one night. Set a gnome on fire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
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Post by: Narf the Mouse on October 29, 2010, 04:56:20 PM
Quote from: Nightfall;412667I was thinking more of some human ranger in a green outfit come along and say "Stop stealing picnic baskets!"
They're "picinick baskets". Pronunciation is key.
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Post by: Nightfall on October 30, 2010, 04:01:25 AM
Narf,

My apologies then. :p :)
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Post by: Narf the Mouse on October 30, 2010, 04:10:04 PM
Quote from: Nightfall;412779Narf,

My apologies then. :p :)
Good. And see you don't do such a dithpickable thing again! :D