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Petty things that annoy you about games/companies/personalities/etc...

Started by Piestrio, September 25, 2012, 06:37:16 AM

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Melan

#30
September 27, 2012, 03:56:44 PM
Petty things? Maps done in Campaign Cartographer, especially wilderness maps, are generally freaking ugly, and will make me reconsider a purchase. As far as I am concerned, if you get the maps wrong, you will probably also get the rest wrong. Moreover, anything with Poser art in it tells me the designer/publisher (usually the same person) has no taste.

I will buy games from utter and complete douchebags, though. I also enjoy books, music and movies created by utter and complete douchebags, so why stop with games?
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TristramEvans

#31
September 27, 2012, 04:00:25 PM
Quote from: Kiero;586299I've never played any Palladium games, but everything I've ever heard about Kevin Siembieda tells me the guy is a total twat and I wouldn't want to buy anything he's written.

I've never played any Palladium game simply because every one I've ever looked at looks like it was typed on a 50 year old typewriter by someone who'd never so much as cracked open a book on layout, typography or design.

But I don't consider that petty.

Likewise , I won't buy any game with poser art, and I also don't consider that petty. Presentation is an important part of RPG design. The game has to inspire me, and art is a big part of that.

flyingmice

#32
September 27, 2012, 04:05:04 PM
Huh... I just have three criteria for whether I buy a game:

      A. Does the setting and /or system intrigue me to the point where I want to run it?
      B. Does it do something very well to the point where I can learn from it?
      C. Does it explore something I want to write a game about to the point where I can learn something from it?

The game has to meet one of those three criteria. Nothing else ever enters the equation.

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mcbobbo

#33
September 27, 2012, 04:22:13 PM
Quote from: The Traveller;586443Wouldn't his sticking to his guns and keeping control over his creation qualify him as the ultimate Indie developer?

Personally I have no difficulty with his attitude, although I wouldn't play his games because they don't strike me as being very good, I'm quite puzzled by all the people who go on mighty tirades against the man for the terrible crime of not doing what they wanted.

For me, and my tirades, I see the possibility compared to the reality and hope for change.  When that hope gets met with a 'go fuck yourself, you are not a customer anyway', then I get sad.

But that's just me.
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#34
September 27, 2012, 05:05:43 PM
Quote from: mcbobbo;586500For me, and my tirades, I see the possibility compared to the reality and hope for change.  When that hope gets met with a 'go fuck yourself, you are not a customer anyway', then I get sad.

But that's just me.
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If I had instead spent that week and a half complaining loudly about it on the internet I'd never have gotten to enjoy the richness and depth of the milieu on my own terms.

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#35
September 27, 2012, 06:15:48 PM
Quote from: The Traveller;586518If you want something done right after all...

Yes, of course, but some of us are better at complaining than doing the actual work.

;)
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SowelBlack

#36
September 27, 2012, 06:36:42 PM
Quote from: Zachary The First;586415Wushu earned my everlasting irritation several years ago, not because of the system itself, but because of a hyper-aggressive species of fanboy promoting it for everything from World War II campaigns to removing kitchen mildew, regardless of actual suitability for the task at hand.

Just wanted to say "welcome back" Zach.

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#37
September 27, 2012, 08:30:47 PM
Quote from: SowelBlack;586569Just wanted to say "welcome back" Zach.

We now return you to the regularly scheduled thread comments.

Thanks--good to have a little bit of time to actually post again.
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#38
September 27, 2012, 08:57:13 PM
Yeah! Happy to see your smiling heraldry, Zach! :D

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#39
September 27, 2012, 11:59:58 PM
Quote from: Melan;586471Petty things? Maps done in Campaign Cartographer, especially wilderness maps, are generally freaking ugly... As far as I am concerned, if you get the maps wrong, you will probably also get the rest wrong.

Yeah that's sound - not petty at all in my view.

Philotomy Jurament

#40
September 28, 2012, 12:11:04 AM
I didn't purchase a physical copy of Stars Without Number because of the craptastic cover used on the Mongoose-published version, which was the only one available.  (I like the original starfield/nebula cover.)

Going to DriveThruRPG, I see that Sine Nomine has made the starfield cover available for physical books, again.  That's good news!
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#41
September 28, 2012, 03:07:40 AM
Quote from: The Traveller;586443Wouldn't his sticking to his guns and keeping control over his creation qualify him as the ultimate Indie developer?

Even if that were the case, what's your point?
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#42
September 28, 2012, 03:25:43 AM
Quote from: Kiero;586299I've never played any Palladium games, but everything I've ever heard about Kevin Siembieda tells me the guy is a total twat and I wouldn't want to buy anything he's written.

Well, you don't know what you're missing, then.

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#43
September 28, 2012, 04:18:29 AM
Quote from: Zachary The First;586415Wushu earned my everlasting irritation several years ago, not because of the system itself, but because of a hyper-aggressive species of fanboy promoting it for everything from World War II campaigns to removing kitchen mildew, regardless of actual suitability for the task at hand.

Oh yes.

Also on the same list: Savage Worlds and everything ORE related.

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#44
September 28, 2012, 04:26:46 AM
Quote from: Melan;586471Petty things? Maps done in Campaign Cartographer, especially wilderness maps, are generally freaking ugly, and will make me reconsider a purchase. As far as I am concerned, if you get the maps wrong, you will probably also get the rest wrong.

I just want to say, "me too!"
I abhor computer-generated maps in general. They feel computer-gamey to me.
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