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Pathfinder 2nd Edition predictions?

Started by Bloody Stupid Johnson, December 29, 2011, 05:00:59 AM

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Bloody Stupid Johnson

What the title says...anyone have any predictions as to when there might be a new edition of Pathfinder? Thoughts as to what this might look like?

Cranewings

It is years off. They are raking in the cash now.

I think they will continue to pile more class abilities onto each level while simplifying more of the combat system. PF2 won't be too different though. That's my guess.

Melan

More like the third edition - after all, they did sell their beta rules to a lot of people. That was pretty smart of them, and I'd bet on a similar move a few years from now. Maybe around 2013? Relatively small, or at least seemingly small product changes, but at a faster pace than the D&D edition cycle.
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Quote from: B.T.;498649It will suck.  Jason Bulmahn is a talentless, mule-stubborn idiot who thinks mathematical analysis of the rules is pointless.

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JDCorley

I heard they thought about hiring a new person. So therefore Pathfinder 2e will be out in February 2012.

Lawbag

The current game is in its fifth printing, so I imagine they will continue to tweak and errata/correct the printing as it goes. There is no reason to print a 2nd edition for the sake of it.
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I'd think it will be sometime in 2013 or 2014, whenever sales start to slump badly for the current ruleset. Sometime around them, they will probably have supplements for every single inch of Golarion, and be working on things like "Popular desserts in Sargava and their import costs to Taldor".

As far as what it will look like, I don't expect any drastic changes. Hopefully, they will simplify things and end up looking a bit more like Castles & Crusades as far as rules density.
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B.T.

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Quote from: JDCorley;498654I heard they thought about hiring a new person. So therefore Pathfinder 2e will be out in February 2012.
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So, that\'s something, I guess.

Pedantic

Quote from: danbuter;498669I'd think it will be sometime in 2013 or 2014, whenever sales start to slump badly for the current ruleset. Sometime around them, they will probably have supplements for every single inch of Golarion, and be working on things like "Popular desserts in Sargava and their import costs to Taldor".

As far as what it will look like, I don't expect any drastic changes. Hopefully, they will simplify things and end up looking a bit more like Castles & Crusades as far as rules density.

Conversely, I'm hoping for something more like Kirthfinder, though perhaps with a more sane balancing mechanism for magic items than character wealth. That was a 3e mistake that doesn't ever need to be replicated again.

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Bloody Stupid Johnson

Quote from: danbuter;498669I'd think it will be sometime in 2013 or 2014, whenever sales start to slump badly for the current ruleset. Sometime around them, they will probably have supplements for every single inch of Golarion, and be working on things like "Popular desserts in Sargava and their import costs to Taldor".
 
As far as what it will look like, I don't expect any drastic changes. Hopefully, they will simplify things and end up looking a bit more like Castles & Crusades as far as rules density.

I suppose I'd go with something like this as well - though it depends on how much of their sales are splatbooks and how much is adventure paths and minis and the like? Simplification would be good.

Reckall

Quote from: Bloody Stupid Johnson;498714I suppose I'd go with something like this as well - though it depends on how much of their sales are splatbooks and how much is adventure paths and minis and the like? Simplification would be good.

I hope for a first chapter of core rules (sort of the Intro Box but without the stash of maps, cardboard heroes and dice) followed by a streamlined but still crunchy 3E based rule-set. And throw in about 50% more races/classes/prestige classes than 1st ed.

And, please, beta-test for real this time: PF's crafting rules are still broken - mostly because they copied "ad verbatim" OGL's broken rules.
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I suspect they are planning a Pathfinder Revised edition, something like 3.5 from 3.0, in a couple of years. When it arrives, I imagine it could easily be a reaction to 5e, but more marketingwise than ruleswise.

They won't do too many large-scale, system-wide changes. Just enough clean-up and tweaks to ensure the fans buy more copies of books they already own.
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arminius

Considering that Paizo was successful (yes?) selling D&D add-ons...

And Pathfinder was conceived as a way of supporting and preserving that business, not as an end in itself...

I'd expect that there wouldn't be much impetus to come out with a new edition, unless there's a strong demand from the fans already--as opposed to the crazy planned-obsolescence model that seems to be the common wisdom. Most likely any significant modifications would bubble up from published variants, articles, and forum discussions and have demonstrable, widespread support.

Frankly I think that deliberately forcing people to "upgrade" isn't just disrespectful of your customers, it's also a losing proposition when there are attractive "sidegrades" with considerable marketing strength behind them including D&D (whatever edition it is at the time), and the evergreen ability of new market entrants to fork the rules using the OGL.