Paizo Sci-Fi It Is Then

Shawn Driscoll · June 30, 2016, 05:46:26 AM

I have a feeling that Starfinder will win the sci-fi RPG war (if there is one going on) when it is released. Games like Eclipse Phase, Rogue Trader, Mindjammer, Numenera, and FFG Star Wars will be brushed aside once Pathfinder players are shown Starfinder. And players that still love Pathfinder rules, but haven't played it in awhile because they've wanted sci-fi, will also be making Starfinder their new go-to sci-fi RPG.

If a player is a D&D 3.75 kind of player, that is. I'm sure there are a hell-o-lot of them out there. Paizo is doing it right by taking their time with this and having announced their game over a year early.

Shipyard Locked · June 30, 2016, 06:24:24 AM

Assuming Starfinder winds up being generic enough that's a reasonable bet, especially because WotC is not likely to follow this move with their own 'more official' space D&D.

Shawn Driscoll · June 30, 2016, 08:13:52 AM

Quote from: Shipyard Locked;905934Assuming Starfinder winds up being generic enough that's a reasonable bet, especially because WotC is not likely to follow this move with their own 'more official' space D&D.

Do you think there are two packs out there for mainstream RPGing? The D&D players and the Pathfinder players? Or do you think it's more players playing from both game sets?

AsenRG · June 30, 2016, 08:20:02 AM

Quote from: Shawn Driscoll;905929If a player is a D&D 3.75 kind of player, that is.

Pathfinder is more like D&D 3.51 when we account for how much is changed, or rather, how much is the same:). D&D 3.75 would be a better denominator for things like Fantasy Craft and 13th Age.

Also, Starfinder is going to resolve the Sci-Fi RPG war about as much as America joining "the war to end all wars" has put an end to wars today;).

Krimson · June 30, 2016, 10:17:26 AM

Quote from: Shawn Driscoll;905940Do you think there are two packs out there for mainstream RPGing? The D&D players and the Pathfinder players? Or do you think it's more players playing from both game sets?

Deus Ex Machina has already release Amethyst Quintessence and I think Ultramodern5 is due out next month. I have the former and will get the latter when it is released. I'll probably pick up Starfinder as well when it comes out, but I like the 5e route mainly because I like how 5e doesn't have the bloat of d20 derived systems and the cost. I imagine Starfinder is going to be a pricey option.

David Johansen · June 30, 2016, 10:29:42 AM

If it's done right I think a major industry player could capture a good chunk of the sf market.

Of course, it can't be done right with D&D's mechanics as far as I'm concerned anyhow.

Alternity 2.0 here we come.

Yech

JesterRaiin · June 30, 2016, 11:01:31 AM

Quote from: Krimson;905945Amethyst

My deeply tanned chum. :cool:

Ratman_tf · June 30, 2016, 11:10:32 AM

Unseen, shot from the hip opinion- It'll appeal to people who already like sci-fi and Pathfinder D&D, but not necessarily to either group alone.

AsenRG · June 30, 2016, 11:23:18 AM

Quote from: Ratman_tf;905955Unseen, shot from the hip opinion- It'll appeal to people who already like sci-fi and Pathfinder D&D, but not necessarily to either group alone.

Right on the mark.

Alderaan Crumbs · June 30, 2016, 11:24:42 AM

Quote from: Shawn Driscoll;905929I have a feeling that Starfinder will win the sci-fi RPG war (if there is one going on) when it is released. Games like Eclipse Phase, Rogue Trader, Mindjammer, Numenera, and FFG Star Wars will be brushed aside once Pathfinder players are shown Starfinder. And players that still love Pathfinder rules, but haven't played it in awhile because they've wanted sci-fi, will also be making Starfinder their new go-to sci-fi RPG.

If a player is a D&D 3.75 kind of player, that is. I'm sure there are a hell-o-lot of them out there. Paizo is doing it right by taking their time with this and having announced their game over a year early.

While I hope it's good and it does well I have no interest in Pathfinder rules, fantasy or otherwise. I play Numenera or FFG's Star Wars because I love their respective settings and systems, not because they're all I have and tolerate them. Mileage will vary, of course.

JesterRaiin · June 30, 2016, 01:25:47 PM

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Well, it's not that PFRPG doesn't feature neither SF settings, nor supplements.

Omega · June 30, 2016, 01:44:10 PM

Another DragonStar.

Yeah thats going to so end the debate which isnt even a debate as theres so many systems and style and player tastes no one game will ever appeal to everyone.

Traveller fans will shrug and keep playing Traveller. Spelljammer fans will do the same and so on.

Pathfinder and 3xe fans will likely enjoy it IF they were looking for a good SF version of D&D.

Caesar Slaad · June 30, 2016, 01:59:18 PM

Quote from: Omega;905975Another DragonStar.

Most accurate post so far. Hopefully not a predictor, though. DragonStar started with an intriguing sounding premise, then threw out some space dungeon crawls and mechanical books and then sort of withered away.

I worry about the Starfinder premise. It sounds cools (Absalom is gone, as is everyone's memory of what happen to it), but have doubts they can milk it out for too long without aggravating the player base.

As for me, I like Pathfinder, I like SF, but this is really not seeming like something I'll play. Numenera is more what I want out of science fantasy (alas, I don't care for the system.)

estar · June 30, 2016, 03:40:25 PM

Quote from: Shawn Driscoll;905929I have a feeling that Starfinder will win the sci-fi RPG war (if there is one going on) when it is released. Games like Eclipse Phase, Rogue Trader, Mindjammer, Numenera, and FFG Star Wars will be brushed aside once Pathfinder players are shown Starfinder. And players that still love Pathfinder rules, but haven't played it in awhile because they've wanted sci-fi, will also be making Starfinder their new go-to sci-fi RPG.

If a player is a D&D 3.75 kind of player, that is. I'm sure there are a hell-o-lot of them out there. Paizo is doing it right by taking their time with this and having announced their game over a year early.

Star Wars is more popular than Star Trek. Always has been. However there is more enough hard sci-fi fans to make hard sci-fi RPGs worth publishing. And given the low barriers to producing works and finding people to play with who give a fuck who is the market leader is. Every niche has people catering to do it.

Xavier Onassiss · July 01, 2016, 03:27:08 AM

GW already did Elves, Dwarves, and Orcs in space.