Old-School Fundamentalist Ironically Proves My Point

D-503 · June 22, 2014, 03:55:24 PM

The only point Venger ever proved is that if God exists he has a sardonic sense of humour.

P&P · June 22, 2014, 04:32:29 PM

Please, let's be fair. This appears to be about something an identifiable person has actually said, which is a definite step forward from the last few OSR Taliban threads. We should be encouraging and understanding.

Spinachcat · June 22, 2014, 04:43:08 PM

Quote from: RPGPundit;760250So what do you say?

I say fuck'em and laugh at them, but that doesn't provide as much drama as leading a victimhood crusade.

Quote from: RPGPundit;760250Am I not an "true" old-school gamer then?

Nope. Apparently not. Everyone knows Venger is in charge of OSR membership and like the bouncer at the hottest clubs, Venger only lets in the babes and the bad ass dudes.

Quote from: RPGPundit;760250Or what cardinal sin have I committed, what have I touched that is Haram and makes me one of the Unbelievers?

Ask Venger.

Quote from: Coffee Zombie;7602621) Do you hearken back to older versions of gaming products because they felt / played more naturally than newer, cleaner versions? Do you like to talk about them / play them / write for them?

You're OSR.

I'm OSR and I say "not always" to the first question. Rolemaster is Old School and there are plenty of modern RPGs that play better.

Quote from: Coffee Zombie;760262I can not think of a useful yardstick to measure one's old-schoolness that is useful, informative or worthwhile.

How's this one?

Do you enjoy old style RPGs and take actions to promote either the actual play of those old games or the actual play of games like them?

"Actions to promote" could include blogging, writing stuff, buying OSR stuff, but mostly GMing or playing OSR games.

Armchair Gamer · June 22, 2014, 05:07:51 PM

I really think Gnosticism is a far better analogy--a recognizable core of doctrines but a lot of divergence and contradiction surrounding them, cliquishness, emphasis on intellectual dispute, secret knowledge, fascination with the occult, and a disturbing streak of pride and contempt for the Mundane/Unenlightened World.

Meanwhile, Pundit, how well did you manage to exclude us middle-school, plot-happy, Paladins & Princesses-style, demi-swine fans from 5E?

(There's actually a serious question underneath the snark there--Pundit's take on what makes for enjoyable D&D appears different enough from my own that I find it improbable the same system is going to appeal to both of us unless it's very flexible.)

Scott Anderson · June 22, 2014, 05:45:28 PM

Two unforgivable sins of the New Left movement:

1) tribalism uber alles and

2) victimhood >> success

Don't indulge trogs, Pundit. That goes double for the rest of you.

TristramEvans · June 22, 2014, 06:07:29 PM

I passed a crazy homeless guy on the street the other day who called me a fag. Gee, guess I better blog about that to set the record straight.

crkrueger · June 22, 2014, 06:11:22 PM

Quote from: TristramEvans;760326I passed a crazy homeless guy on the street the other day who called me a fag. Gee, guess I better blog about that to set the record straight.

Dude, you could be a mod at purple!

JamesV · June 22, 2014, 06:26:37 PM

Quote from: TristramEvans;760326I passed a crazy homeless guy on the street the other day who called me a fag. Gee, guess I better blog about that to set the record straight.

I hope it was about how that guy needs to check his male, house-free, neuro-unique privilege.

Simlasa · June 22, 2014, 06:27:00 PM

That guy annoys me... starting with the silly name. Why not just call himself 'Fuck You!' and stop being coy about it.

The Butcher · June 22, 2014, 06:54:45 PM

Venger Satanis strikes me as harmless.

But it sure is fun to see the mighty Pundit going boo hoo at the thought that someone feels he's not OSR.

JeremyR · June 22, 2014, 07:07:04 PM

I think you are making a mistake by taking Venger seriously. It's as much as a phony persona as RPGPundit.

The Butcher · June 22, 2014, 07:15:30 PM

Quote from: JeremyR;760336I think you are making a mistake by taking Venger seriously. It's as much as a phony persona as RPGPundit.

Beg to differ. I've met the Pundit offline and I have zero reason to believe he's putting on a "persona" when he posts here or on his blog. He damn sure means every word of what he writes.

No idea about VS, though.

Spinachcat · June 22, 2014, 07:31:05 PM

Quote from: The Butcher;760337I've met the Pundit offline and I have zero reason to believe he's putting on a "persona"

That's awesome!!!

Did he let you rub his Alpha bump for good luck?

I'm always doing that at Chinese restaurants.

The Butcher · June 22, 2014, 07:34:24 PM

Quote from: Spinachcat;760341That's awesome!!!

Did he let you rub his Alpha bump for good luck?

I'm always doing that at Chinese restaurants.

I follow a strict "don't ask, don't tell" policy when it comes to bump-rubbing.

Marleycat · June 22, 2014, 07:36:52 PM

Quote from: The Butcher;760337Beg to differ. I've met the Pundit offline and I have zero reason to believe he's putting on a "persona" when he posts here or on his blog. He damn sure means every word of what he writes.

No idea about VS, though.

Interesting. The only thing I know about him as fact is that he's great at getting people to discuss things regardless of agreement or disagreement with his view or specific topic of the week.