I've only been actually playing old-school games since the old-school (unlike some of the self-declared popes of the OSR, who were busy shitting all over D&D at the time), have blogged about several old-school campaigns, and published two old-school RPGs and one sourcebook. But apparently, I can't use the words the OSR-celebs use to describe themselves because I'm an "outsider" (http://therpgpundit.blogspot.com/2014/06/osr-fundamentalist-ironically-proves-my.html). Huh.
So it's not appropriate for me to talk about the OSR-Taliban because the guys who call themselves the Taliban declared I'm not actually OSR. Funny how that works.
So what do you say? Am I not an "true" old-school gamer then? Did I just imagine I'd run my RC D&D campaign, LotFP, DCC, Albion, wrote Arrows of Indra and FtA!, etc?
Or if none of those are enough, what is? Or what cardinal sin have I committed, what have I touched that is Haram and makes me one of the Unbelievers?
RPGPundit
That Venger guy has been a regular asshole on EnWorld and the WOTC boards for the past month or so.
Venger's an asshole, fullstop. The only thing that he's "proving" is that you're gullible enough to give him any credence, Pundit. YHBT, HTH. HAND.
I took a survey of 100 people with this weighty problem.
They all told me to fuck off and stop wasting their time.
Quote from: RPGPundit;760250I've only been actually playing old-school games since the old-school (unlike some of the self-declared popes of the OSR, who were busy shitting all over D&D at the time), have blogged about several old-school campaigns, and published two old-school RPGs and one sourcebook. But apparently, I can't use the words the OSR-celebs use to describe themselves because I'm an "outsider" (http://therpgpundit.blogspot.com/2014/06/osr-fundamentalist-ironically-proves-my.html). Huh.
So it's not appropriate for me to talk about the OSR-Taliban because the guys who call themselves the Taliban declared I'm not actually OSR. Funny how that works.
So what do you say? Am I not an "true" old-school gamer then? Did I just imagine I'd run my RC D&D campaign, LotFP, DCC, Albion, wrote Arrows of Indra and FtA!, etc?
Or if none of those are enough, what is? Or what cardinal sin have I committed, what have I touched that is Haram and makes me one of the Unbelievers?
RPGPundit
By the time the term OSR became popular parlance, old-school had become less about how people actually played and more about a tribal identity and associated dogma. I just laugh when OSR Taliban I piss off claim I hate grognards or don't understand old-school D&D. I still have all my monochrome TSR modules, and the copy of City State of the World Emperor that I got for my 11th birthday. I still use my set of original dungeon geomorphs and JG Ready Ref Sheets. By the time I was 13 I had written a dozen or more dungeons, and submitted one to a Dragon magazine contest. I've played through the Dark Tower with a party of PCs starting at level 1. So accusations that I'm not a true old-schooler only prove that today that identity is more about forums, blogs, and tribal solidarity than anything as marginal as how you play at the table.
I've only seen a few of his posts through the OSR Blogosphere, and every one generally made me roll my eyes. He's an OSR Troll, who gains an HP back every time someone reads his comments. Ugh.
Easy definition of an OSR player, for any game;
1) Do you hearken back to older versions of gaming products because they felt / played more naturally than newer, cleaner versions? Do you like to talk about them / play them / write for them?
You're OSR.
Sheesh. The rest of it is arguing over how to slice your silver pennies up to make the ideal piece o' eight.
Edit: In general, the term OSR refers to the "movement" that revived old games and made new material and improvements for them. People who are part of the OSR aren't "OSR", they're gamers who have an interest in OSR games. I can not think of a useful yardstick to measure one's old-schoolness that is useful, informative or worthwhile. Some people just want to play old games because they prefer them. Others think older games are purer expressions of the hobby, and therefore better. Some people just like feeling superior because they've been playing since the LBB era.
Quote from: RPGPundit;760250I've only been actually playing old-school games since the old-school (unlike some of the self-declared popes of the OSR, who were busy shitting all over D&D at the time), have blogged about several old-school campaigns, and published two old-school RPGs and one sourcebook. But apparently, I can't use the words the OSR-celebs use to describe themselves because I'm an "outsider" (http://therpgpundit.blogspot.com/2014/06/osr-fundamentalist-ironically-proves-my.html). Huh.
So it's not appropriate for me to talk about the OSR-Taliban because the guys who call themselves the Taliban declared I'm not actually OSR. Funny how that works.
So what do you say? Am I not an "true" old-school gamer then? Did I just imagine I'd run my RC D&D campaign, LotFP, DCC, Albion, wrote Arrows of Indra and FtA!, etc?
Or if none of those are enough, what is? Or what cardinal sin have I committed, what have I touched that is Haram and makes me one of the Unbelievers?
RPGPundit
Why do you care ?
Why do you want to be associated with a movement when you think a big chunk of them are arseholes?
Is it just so you can shill a few dozen more copies of a game or something or are you looking for some sort of catharsis some sort of recognition that you are responsible for the Old-Schooling of 5e and they should accept you as a prophet of their order or some-such?
Isn't Venger the guy who tried to curse RPG.net or something?
Pundit does certainly seem to be taking this emotional investment of what OSR Taliban thinks of his opinion to extreme levels. This is what, the third blog post on the subject?
I think it's more a case of, since everyone here except Haffrung told him the OSR Taliban was in his head mostly, he's telling us "Look, they exist!"
I'm not sure if a person, who if his beliefs are real, would by definition count as insane is a good example.
Then again, I don't attend Khutbah at the G+ Mosque, so I don't know who is the current Imam now that JMal has retreated to his cave. It's possible they've already issued the Fatwa condemning Pundit to death. :rolleyes:
Quote from: RPGPundit;760250So what do you say? Am I not an "true" old-school gamer then? Did I just imagine I'd run my RC D&D campaign, LotFP, DCC, Albion, wrote Arrows of Indra and FtA!, etc?
You are an old school gamer, but you're also an outsider. You'll always be an outsider.
Pundit, please stop this. By citing VS as a source for the OSR, you are giving him a credibility that he really has not earned or deserves while simultaeneously damaging your own credibility.
I've never thought of the term "OSR Taliban" as any sort of official group, but just another name for extremist fans of an edition, like "4vengers" or "3tards". I don't know if it is some sort of official group, but I don't care. I'll always view it as a pejorative for fanbois of AD&D/OD&D versions. Just like I don't think there is any one true definition of what is OSR. There's some leeway there, I think
Quote from: Rincewind1;760285Isn't Venger the guy who tried to curse RPG.net or something?
Yes.
He was the guy who inspired Cessna to say, "Don't cast spells on rpg.net."
JG
Quote from: James Gillen;760296Yes.
He was the guy who inspired Cessna to say, "Don't cast spells on rpg.net."
JG
I thought that was Darren
The only point Venger ever proved is that if God exists he has a sardonic sense of humour.
Please, let's be fair. This appears to be about something an identifiable person has actually said, which is a definite step forward from the last few OSR Taliban threads. We should be encouraging and understanding.
Quote from: RPGPundit;760250So what do you say?
I say fuck'em and laugh at them, but that doesn't provide as much drama as leading a victimhood crusade.
Quote from: RPGPundit;760250Am I not an "true" old-school gamer then?
Nope. Apparently not. Everyone knows Venger is in charge of OSR membership and like the bouncer at the hottest clubs, Venger only lets in the babes and the bad ass dudes.
Quote from: RPGPundit;760250Or what cardinal sin have I committed, what have I touched that is Haram and makes me one of the Unbelievers?
Ask Venger.
Quote from: Coffee Zombie;7602621) Do you hearken back to older versions of gaming products because they felt / played more naturally than newer, cleaner versions? Do you like to talk about them / play them / write for them?
You're OSR.
I'm OSR and I say "not always" to the first question. Rolemaster is Old School and there are plenty of modern RPGs that play better.
Quote from: Coffee Zombie;760262I can not think of a useful yardstick to measure one's old-schoolness that is useful, informative or worthwhile.
How's this one?
Do you enjoy old style RPGs and take actions to promote either the actual play of those old games or the actual play of games like them?
"Actions to promote" could include blogging, writing stuff, buying OSR stuff, but mostly GMing or playing OSR games.
I really think Gnosticism is a far better analogy--a recognizable core of doctrines but a lot of divergence and contradiction surrounding them, cliquishness, emphasis on intellectual dispute, secret knowledge, fascination with the occult, and a disturbing streak of pride and contempt for the Mundane/Unenlightened World.
:D
Meanwhile, Pundit, how well did you manage to exclude us middle-school, plot-happy, Paladins & Princesses-style, demi-swine fans from 5E? :) (There's actually a serious question underneath the snark there--Pundit's take on what makes for enjoyable D&D appears different enough from my own that I find it improbable the same system is going to appeal to both of us unless it's very flexible.)
Two unforgivable sins of the New Left movement:
1) tribalism uber alles and
2) victimhood >> success
Don't indulge trogs, Pundit. That goes double for the rest of you.
I passed a crazy homeless guy on the street the other day who called me a fag. Gee, guess I better blog about that to set the record straight.
Quote from: TristramEvans;760326I passed a crazy homeless guy on the street the other day who called me a fag. Gee, guess I better blog about that to set the record straight.
Dude, you could be a mod at purple!
Quote from: TristramEvans;760326I passed a crazy homeless guy on the street the other day who called me a fag. Gee, guess I better blog about that to set the record straight.
I hope it was about how that guy needs to check his male, house-free, neuro-unique privilege.
That guy annoys me... starting with the silly name. Why not just call himself 'Fuck You!' and stop being coy about it.
Venger Satanis strikes me as harmless.
But it sure is fun to see the mighty Pundit going boo hoo at the thought that someone feels he's not OSR.
I think you are making a mistake by taking Venger seriously. It's as much as a phony persona as RPGPundit.
Quote from: JeremyR;760336I think you are making a mistake by taking Venger seriously. It's as much as a phony persona as RPGPundit.
Beg to differ. I've met the Pundit offline and I have zero reason to believe he's putting on a "persona" when he posts here or on his blog. He damn sure means every word of what he writes.
No idea about VS, though.
Quote from: The Butcher;760337I've met the Pundit offline and I have zero reason to believe he's putting on a "persona"
That's awesome!!!
Did he let you rub his Alpha bump for good luck?
I'm always doing that at Chinese restaurants.
Quote from: Spinachcat;760341That's awesome!!!
Did he let you rub his Alpha bump for good luck?
I'm always doing that at Chinese restaurants.
I follow a strict "don't ask, don't tell" policy when it comes to bump-rubbing.
:D
Quote from: The Butcher;760337Beg to differ. I've met the Pundit offline and I have zero reason to believe he's putting on a "persona" when he posts here or on his blog. He damn sure means every word of what he writes.
No idea about VS, though.
Interesting. The only thing I know about him as fact is that he's great at getting people to discuss things regardless of agreement or disagreement with his view or specific topic of the week.
Quote from: CRKrueger;760327Dude, you could be a mod at purple!
I dont feel confident Im a big enough morality troll yet. Maybe if I spent more time at the SA forums.
Quote from: JamesV;760329I hope it was about how that guy needs to check his male, house-free, neuro-unique privilege.
You make me smile.
Quote from: Marleycat;760343Interesting. The only thing I know about him as fact is that he's great at getting people to discuss things regardless of agreement or disagreement with his view or specific topic of the week.
Years ago he showed up on TBP to promote his super-adult rpg about playing a demon in Hell. He was kicked off the site for casting spells on posters who made fun of him ( note this was back when you actually had to do something before getting banned & the mods hadnt yet decided they were the bastions of ethic enforcement for the community). Years later he showed up here for a bit and seemed to have mellowed (and apparently adopted the OSR? Thats new to me, his game was all storygamey back in 04), but still has a bit of the crazy going on and frankly, never came across as that bbright. I find him funny in a kinda pitiful way, not overly obnoxious except for those people really intent on letting him know how WRONG he is.
But yeah, whether the Pundit is an act or not, he generally seems intelligent enough to understand that taking VS seriously in any way just makes him look foolish.
Quote from: P&P;760308Please, let's be fair. This appears to be about something an identifiable person has actually said, which is a definite step forward from the last few OSR Taliban threads. We should be encouraging and understanding.
No, we really needn't.
I don't deny anyone the privilege of writing scathing blog posts for any reason, sensible or not, justifiable or not. I don't deny anyone the privilege of writing rally-to-the-flag blog posts because Someone On The Internet Was Mean To You. (Although one could reasonably suggest that anyone who can't find Someone On The Internet Who Is Mean To You hasn't logged on from anything more recent than a CRT dumb terminal.)
I also don't deny anyone the privilege of pointing and laughing.
That's being fair.
It did liven up the OSR G+ group for a minute, props on that.
Quote from: jibbajibba;760271Why do you care ?
Why do you want to be associated with a movement when you think a big chunk of them are arseholes?
Is it just so you can shill a few dozen more copies of a game or something or are you looking for some sort of catharsis some sort of recognition that you are responsible for the Old-Schooling of 5e and they should accept you as a prophet of their order or some-such?
Yes. He demands, no, needs the recognition.
Quote from: dragoner;760362It did liven up the OSR G+ group for a minute, props on that.
I can't find it. What's their name?
Quote from: Marleycat;760372I can't find it. What's their name?
Check your pm's. :)
This bunch here sure is hard on RPGPundit. Hard on him indeed.
All of you git offa my lawn.
Quote from: P&P;760308Please, let's be fair. This appears to be about something an identifiable person has actually said, which is a definite step forward from the last few OSR Taliban threads. We should be encouraging and understanding.
I'm frequently in awe of your sense of humor.
Quote from: Scott Anderson;760395This bunch here sure is hard on RPGPundit.
The Pundit's greatest gaming accomplishment is creating a forum in which you can call him a whiny cunt right to his avatar.
Quote from: Old Geezer;760405All of you git offa my lawn.
Fuck you old bastard.:)
Quote from: Marleycat;760410Fuck you old bastard.:)
Butter your asshole and grab your ankles, party girl, here it comes.
Quote from: Sacrosanct;760288Pundit does certainly seem to be taking this emotional investment of what OSR Taliban thinks of his opinion to extreme levels. This is what, the third blog post on the subject?
This blog post was excellent; I laughed all along while reading it.
Now, just to entice some people to click on the link in my sig, I will remind you all that I wrote too a supposedly OSR game. I called it OSR compatible so people (hopefully) immediately understand that it is another D&D iteration. But then, I don't care in the least if I am old-school or what not. It's just funny to read discussion about this, and Pundit knows how to tell things in a comical way, when the Venger guy just seems to be a pathetic person without girlfriend and a petty job. Or maybe just a guy that does it for fun. (I can't believe that someone would believe that Cthulhu is real, and who would "curse" a website... :rolleyes: :duh: )
Quote from: Turanil;760563This blog post was excellent; I laughed all along while reading it.
Now, just to entice some people to click on the link in my sig, I will remind you all that I wrote too a supposedly OSR game. I called it OSR compatible so people (hopefully) immediately understand that it is another D&D iteration. But then, I don't care in the least if I am old-school or what not. It's just funny to read discussion about this, and Pundit knows how to tell things in a comical way, when the Venger guy just seems to be a pathetic person without girlfriend and a petty job. Or maybe just a guy that does it for fun. (I can't believe that someone would believe that Cthulhu is real, and who would "curse" a website... :rolleyes: :duh: )
Sadly, he's married and has a kid or kids.
Quote from: thedungeondelver;760609Sadly, he's married and has a kid or kids.
We know he's a fraud. Any real Cthulhu Priest would have sacrificed them already.
Unless, he's saving them so Dread Cthulhu can savor their horror and madness as he devours them.
Quote from: CRKrueger;760611We know he's a fraud. Any real Cthulhu Priest would have sacrificed them already.
Unless, he's saving them so Dread Cthulhu can savor their horror and madness as he devours them.
Eh. If he was really hardcore he'd be a devotant of Sithrak, The God Who Hates.
Quote from: thedungeondelver;760623Eh. If he was really hardcore he'd be a devotant of Sithrak, The God Who Hates.
Pastiche! A false god!
Quote from: Old Geezer;760546Butter your asshole and grab your ankles, party girl, here it comes.
Rape culture fascism. ... Where's my bingo card? I'm winning this round bitches.
Quote from: MonsterSlayer;760783Rape culture fascism. ... Where's my bingo card? I'm winning this round bitches.
Oh, the irony.
Quote from: Old Geezer;760546Butter your asshole and grab your ankles, party girl, here it comes.
Oh please, that little blue pill needs an hour to kick in. She can catch up on email and watch Colbert before worrying about where's the margarine.
:)
Awesome buttseks from me is better than Colbert.
"If results last more than four hours, call all your old girlfriends."
Quote from: Old Geezer;760798Oh, the irony.
Perfect. I mean OG is old and I figure he has fucked something by now. And well old guys usually need incentive, even though butter is an odd choice. I'm just happy to find out it's most likely women that he actually fucked.
Quote from: Black Vulmea;760409The Pundit's greatest gaming accomplishment is creating a forum in which you can call him a whiny cunt right to his avatar.
Eh, I think his greatest virtue is in being a good sport about it. Compare and contrast with TBP, where failure to kiss a mod's ass is a sanctionable offense, and one can forgive Pundit many sins.
Quote from: Ravenswing;760930Eh, I think his greatest virtue is in being a good sport about it. Compare and contrast with TBP, where failure to kiss a mod's ass is a sanctionable offense, and one can forgive Pundit many sins.
Indeed.
JG
Quote from: Ravenswing;760930Eh, I think his greatest virtue is in being a good sport about it. Compare and contrast with TBP, where failure to kiss a mod's ass is a sanctionable offense, and one can forgive Pundit many sins.
Quote from: James Gillen;761220Indeed.
JG
It's half the reason I joined this wretched hive of scum and villainy.
Quote from: Ravenswing;760930Eh, I think his greatest virtue is in being a good sport about it. Compare and contrast with TBP, where failure to kiss a mod's ass is a sanctionable offense, and one can forgive Pundit many sins.
Here, here. Though it was fun to tell them fuck themselves just before they perma-banned me.
Quote from: Bobloblah;761275It's half the reason I joined this wretched hive of scum and villainy.
Yes, but how long until someone loses an arm to an old man with a laser sword?
You know what? He doesn't like you. I don't like you, either. You just watch yourself. We're wanted men. I have the death sentence on twelve systems!
//Panjumanju
A little one like me is not worth the effort. Come, let me get you a drink...
Quote from: Spinachcat;760856Oh please, that little blue pill needs an hour to kick in.
30 minutes, actually. But you can still squeeze in Colbert :-)
The only little blue pill I take is Zoloft.
Quote from: Ravenswing;760930Eh, I think his greatest virtue is in being a good sport about it.
Yeah, I wasn't being ironic there - this site serves a valuable function as the you-can't-get-away-with-spewing-bullshit-without-being-called-on-it-zone of the hobby, and it's wholly to the Pundit's credit that it exists.
Quote from: Old Geezer;761356The only little blue pill I take is Zoloft.
No wonder you've been so pissy. Move to a state where you can skip the blue pill for some good green stuff.
Quote from: Ravenswing;760930Eh, I think his greatest virtue is in being a good sport about it.
Pundy is a good sport. He walks the talk about this forum being a free space for everyone to bullshit and his no-no's are really minor.
Quote from: Spinachcat;761378No wonder you've been so pissy. Move to a state where you can skip the blue pill for some good green stuff.
No, I've been so pissy because I'm an irascible old bastard who comes here to vent.
Quote from: cranebump;761288Here, here. Though it was fun to tell them fuck themselves just before they perma-banned me.
Hah, what I got permabanned for was changing my avatar to a TBP logo with the red circle and slash through it. It's not even that I was spamming with current posts; that was about three months after I'd stopped posting.
It's funny, actually. I tend to save forum posts I make, and looking back on TBP posts from even five or six years ago, I think "damn, they wouldn't merely permaban me for that now, they'd send assassins."
One wonders exactly what they're afraid of. Look at this forum: we can tee off on anyone as nastily or unfairly as we want, and somehow it isn't a pool of anarchy, and two people who were screaming insults at one another day before yesterday in one thread will discuss things peacefully and soberly in another the next.
Quote from: Ravenswing;761450Hah, what I got permabanned for was changing my avatar to a TBP logo with the red circle and slash through it. It's not even that I was spamming with current posts; that was about three months after I'd stopped posting.
It's funny, actually. I tend to save forum posts I make, and looking back on TBP posts from even five or six years ago, I think "damn, they wouldn't merely permaban me for that now, they'd send assassins."
One wonders exactly what they're afraid of. Look at this forum: we can tee off on anyone as nastily or unfairly as we want, and somehow it isn't a pool of anarchy, and two people who were screaming insults at one another day before yesterday in one thread will discuss things peacefully and soberly in another the next.
It's because you can call someone's shit but that doesn't mean you hate them or something. You basically can speak your mind but expect push back if you're off the rails.
Heck I even give you fair warning right in my title about me going off the rails.:)
Quote from: cranebump;761288Here, here. Though it was fun to tell them fuck themselves just before they perma-banned me.
RPG.net: Where everyone has freedom of speech. Once.
JG
Quote from: Ravenswing;761450
It's funny, actually. I tend to save forum posts I make, and looking back on TBP posts from even five or six years ago, I think "damn, they wouldn't merely permaban me for that now, they'd send assassins."
One wonders exactly what they're afraid of. Look at this forum: we can tee off on anyone as nastily or unfairly as we want, and somehow it isn't a pool of anarchy, and two people who were screaming insults at one another day before yesterday in one thread will discuss things peacefully and soberly in another the next.
"If you don't trust people,
you make them untrustworthy."
-Tao Te Ching
Quote from: Old Geezer;761382No, I've been so pissy because I'm an irascible old bastard who comes here to vent.
You'd be much happier and far more loveable if you went ahead and did the Kickstarter for your eagerly awaited book.
Quote from: jeff37923;761547You'd be much happier and far more loveable if you went ahead and did the Kickstarter for your eagerly awaited book.
This is one thing even Jeff and I agree on. Shut up and take our money, Geezer!
Quote from: jibbajibba;760271Why do you care ?
Why do you want to be associated with a movement when you think a big chunk of them are arseholes?
Because most of the people currently involved with the OSR aren't assholes.
Because I don't want the assholes getting to define the movement, much less defining what old-school is or isn't.
Because I consider myself old-school, and part of the OSR.
RPGPundit
Quote from: S'mon;760292You are an old school gamer, but you're also an outsider. You'll always be an outsider.
Ok, I'll bite: because?
Quote from: RPGPundit;762180Ok, I'll bite: because?
Your whole schtick is iconoclasm. You're not a 'joiner'. You'll never have a substantial 'movement' around you, although you do have influence. You are neither a cult leader like Ron Edwards, nor a follower, nor a networker. The OSR 'leadership' characters are mostly networker types like Zak Sabbath & James Raggi (and formerly JMal, even though he's a very different personality) who are also adept at creating a bit of a personality-cult thing around them. You pretty much have a personality anti-cult. :D
Fuck I just was like "What is this thread that's been going on forever here?" and then I see that.
Can we leave me out of this, whatever it is?
Quote from: S'mon;762259Your whole schtick is iconoclasm. You're not a 'joiner'. You'll never have a substantial 'movement' around you, although you do have influence. You are neither a cult leader like Ron Edwards, nor a follower, nor a networker. The OSR 'leadership' characters are mostly networker types like Zak Sabbath & James Raggi (and formerly JMal, even though he's a very different personality) who are also adept at creating a bit of a personality-cult thing around them. You pretty much have a personality anti-cult. :D
Yeah, he's just like me.
VS
A lesson from the pioneers of frp:
True originals are too cool for schools!
Quote from: Black Vulmea;761371Yeah, I wasn't being ironic there - this site serves a valuable function as the you-can't-get-away-with-spewing-bullshit-without-being-called-on-it-zone of the hobby, and it's wholly to the Pundit's credit that it exists.
Well thanks, guys!
Quote from: S'mon;762259Your whole schtick is iconoclasm. You're not a 'joiner'. You'll never have a substantial 'movement' around you, although you do have influence. You are neither a cult leader like Ron Edwards, nor a follower, nor a networker. The OSR 'leadership' characters are mostly networker types like Zak Sabbath & James Raggi (and formerly JMal, even though he's a very different personality) who are also adept at creating a bit of a personality-cult thing around them. You pretty much have a personality anti-cult. :D
But that argument would suggest that no one (other than Zak and Raggi) are "insiders".
VS wasn't claiming I'm not one of the "leadership" of the OSR, he was saying I wasn't part of the OSR at all.
But sure, if you're saying I not only don't try to be trendy/hip but make a point of being the guy who likes to poke at the trendy and hip, yes.
Quote from: RPGPundit;762399But that argument would suggest that no one (other than Zak and Raggi) are "insiders".
VS wasn't claiming I'm not one of the "leadership" of the OSR, he was saying I wasn't part of the OSR at all.
But sure, if you're saying I not only don't try to be trendy/hip but make a point of being the guy who likes to poke at the trendy and hip, yes.
You were two small steps away from Kanye territory (with all that that implies) so I decided to give you a hard time. Not just about the "OSR Taliban" either (tip of the iceberg and straw of the camel). Don't be assistant to the regional manager, man. Be the regional manager... above all the bullshit.
Obviously, you're part of the OSR. Duh.
VS
Quote from: VengerSatanis;762524You were two small steps away from Kanye territory (with all that that implies)
VS
I have no idea what that implies, actually.
Quote from: Black Vulmea;761371Yeah, I wasn't being ironic there - this site serves a valuable function as the you-can't-get-away-with-spewing-bullshit-without-being-called-on-it-zone of the hobby, and it's wholly to the Pundit's credit that it exists.
Yeah.
I mean, dammit, sometimes you just want to VENT! Not "have your problem solved" or "get advice." You just want to bitch where somebody besides yourself can hear you.
And if somebody doesn't like it, they're free to say "Shut the hell up, you flatulent old windbag poser!" and I'm free to say "Chew the brown crust off my undershorts, dickless."
Heh, well, my common answer to "Shut the hell up!" is to suggest that no one compels anyone to read my posts, and if anyone doesn't want to see them, nothing stops them from adding me to their IGN list. :)
Quote from: RPGPundit;763175I have no idea what that implies, actually.
Kanye West is a famously arrogant, self-aggrandizing rapper.
Indeed. As someone who has walked a messianic razor's edge, I know the dangers, self-inflated ego all the way to full blown megalomania. Just because haters gonna hate doesn't mean there's nothing about you worth hating. Everyone who steps out into the public eye has their share. It keeps the outspoken in check... sometimes.
With great power comes awesome web-slinging which leads to fear, the mind-killer. Anyone without a sense of humor is too pretentious to be a good magician. So go boldly before it all leads to the dark side. Damn you all to hell! Or something like that.
VS
Wannabe. :teehee:
Oh my god.
Quote from: Zak S;763701Oh my god.
Not god. Zod.
Quote from: One Horse Town;763409Wannabe. :teehee:
You said what I was thinking.