I doubt I will drop 40 for the hardback compendium, but I might order issue 3 and 4, and maybe some other time get the smaller 1 and 2.

150 pages of material for 10 bucks is a pretty damned GOOD price IMHO.

Even though I don't have any immediate need or use, that's a nice price.

Quote from: Edsan;293165What reasonable human being would spend money on new crap when the old stuff he already owns or that he got free from the net is still being supported?

Many of us don't care if a game is still being supported. Support can be nice, but if you have the rules and some dice, you really have all you really needed for most games folks would consider "old school." Magazines and fanzines are often popular even with folks with a large collections of goodies and/or who create their own campaign worlds and adventures, however, because they give lots of different ideas from people "just like us."

Quote from: Edsan;293165What reasonable human being would spend money on new crap when the old stuff he already owns or that he got free from the net is still being supported?

New stuff often has decades of hindsight informing them. It can be radically different than all the stuff already sitting on the shelf.

Quote from: JimLotFP;293210New stuff often has decades of hindsight informing them. It can be radically different than all the stuff already sitting on the shelf.

Agreed. There was a lot of stuff thrown out in the early days that wasn't followed up. For example my own Points of Light follows up and expands on the Wilderlands Hex crawl style.

In addition some of the stuff simply takes a long time or is tedious to create. So there is value being able to buy it and spend your time working on something else that is more interesting and fun.

This combine into a generate a market that people can sell too. I will be honest and say it not a big market. From various account it is growing.

4e really helped in this regard by breaking with 3e leaving a bunch of gamers looking for alternatives. For most Pathfinder from Paizo will work out great but more than a few are rediscovering older editions.

For me there is a vibrancy around the participants in the Old School Revival that makes creating products for older editions fun.

Quote from: Akrasia;293185Well, it is a 400 page hardback.  (It's still cheaper, though, to get the four issues separately.)

That's what I meant, but you've got a point nonetheless: if I could reasonably afford it, I would buy it in an instant. Not at the moment, however. Darn economic meltdown...

On a side note, I cannot wait to get my S&W hardback, however. Matt made an offer to UK and Canadian costumers to order the books and re-ship them their way I just could not refuse. *grins*

By the way, to answer to PJ, another reason I think the mags are doing well is because of The Dragon and how it basically emulates the era of 1975 on where most of the gaming material and advice came from it. People interested in the roots of the game connect to that.

Did someone say they were looking for olde school products?

Quote from: JimLotFP;293210New stuff often has decades of hindsight informing them. It can be radically different than all the stuff already sitting on the shelf.

Many of the New Old School writers probably have more hours behind the DM screen today than any of the authors of the early D&D products had at the time they wrote the articles.  

Also, current authors have the advantage of the vast library of other RPG development and creation, fantasy literature, film and video game influences that did not exist in the 70s.

All this combines into a different perspective.

Benoist, I actually agree with you that the FOC is overpriced. We priced it that way because we'd rather have non-paying customers frustrated at our overcharging for this special item than paying customers frustrated that they got 'ripped off' on the individual issues, or thinking 'i'll just wait until the end of the year when (if?) the compendium comes out', etc. All our pricing is driven by making the print issues of the magazine (a) as cheap as possible, with at most around $1 going to the fanzine to support costs and (b) the most desirable alternative available.

That said, it isn't getting any cheaper if it stays around at all, which it may not, and it's only available for another day or so guaranteed, so...  ;-)

I'm biased, but I really do think issues 3 and 4 are two of the greatest values in the history of recent RPG publishing. We're trying to get back down to an 88 page saddle stitched standard (which is still a good value at 9 bucks IMO) but we keep getting so much good material in it's hard...

That said, we're really grateful for all the tremendous support we've gotten, and I hope a lot more of you will come by and pick up a product or three before the end of the contest! We old schoolers should have one more victory in us yet...

I won't lie to you Calithena: I'm really tempted, otherwise I wouldn't talk about the Compendium at all!

I also do understand the logic behind the price point. Surely, there had to be a way to reward people who followed FO! from the start. That's totally understandable.

And now, I must tell you I'm shocked. Are you actually complaining you are receiving too much good stuff for FO? You ungrateful... So much for my own ideas! LOL

We can always use more. It's not like we're an issue ahead or anything!

Quote from: Calithena;293305We can always use more. It's not like we're an issue ahead or anything!

Alright!

Yall are getting this stuff out faster than Worlds of Cthulhu, which seems to have gone from a quarterly to a yearly, and Unspeakable Oath, which has been on hiatus so long its apparently just gonna get a reboot from the top!

Hell, keep doing the mega issues if you have enough material!

I'm very likely to buy 3 and 4.  Less to get 1 and 2.

Here's me on my knees, begging anyone who's ever thought of picking us up in print to do it now. With one day to go we are back in second place, ahead of One Glance Ministries and behind the National Hot Rod Association for the lead.

Quote from: Captain Rufus;293318I'm very likely to buy 3 and 4.  Less to get 1 and 2.

2 is better than 4, IMO. #4 is oriented towards science-fantasy (which I do like), but the adventures in it left me cold and I haven't been motivated to read that ish as closely as the others.

None of the issues are bad, though--- quite the opposite.

Calithena,

I very much like the spirit of Fight On and bought your current issue. However, my biggest  complaints is that  much of the material felt very rough and badly in need for a re-writes (some of which probably shouldn't of even been published at all). Also, for an issue dedicated to my old friend, I wish it would of had more Arduin related --or  even-- inspired material. Even that lackluster Greg Ezpinoza  "Arduin Trillogy" illustration would of been a better choice of a cover then the one that was used.

Just my two Ha' Pennies ( or I should say my $10 bucks plus  $11.59 in handling). Hopefully, wil see a great Tekumel issue in the near future with new material and maybe a current interview ( which pictures I hope) of the Professor himself.