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Official: there will be a Werewolf 20

Started by Benoist, August 04, 2011, 06:47:43 PM

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Ian Warner

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August 04, 2011, 07:01:10 PM
Strange: I didn't think Fuzzy Eco Terrorist was as popular as Fuzzy Spirit Cop?
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GeekEclectic

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August 04, 2011, 09:35:19 PM
Lots of stuff has been announced online, at Gen Con, and via Twitter:
Werewolf anniversary edition
Mage anniversary edition sometime after that
Werewolf and Mage conversion guides
A brand new Mummy game(no subtitle as of now)
The "missing" oMage Convention books
Some new Exalted crap, like an updated book on the Guild and a revised Martial Arts book
A vague promise of new VtM stuff beyond just v20
Shards books in the vein of WoD: Mirrors for at least Vampire and Exalted

That's all I can remember off the top of my head. There's a more complete release schedule floating around out there somewhere but heck if I remembered to save the link.
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Benoist

#3
August 04, 2011, 10:12:23 PM
And a Victorian supplement for Changeling the Lost, which sounds like a cool idea.

danbuter

#4
August 04, 2011, 10:13:38 PM
Quote from: Ian Warner;472008Strange: I didn't think Fuzzy Eco Terrorist was as popular as Fuzzy Spirit Cop?

Not to me! I had almost every Werewolf the Apocalypse book ever made. I flipped through the new version and never bought it or any of it's supplements.
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danbuter

#5
August 04, 2011, 10:15:04 PM
Quote from: GeekEclectic;472023Werewolf anniversary edition
Mage anniversary edition sometime after that
The "missing" oMage Convention books

Awesome! I'll actually be sending WW money again!
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Benoist

#6
August 04, 2011, 10:16:35 PM
The Apocalypse > The Forsaken
The Ascension > The Awakening

James Gillen

#7
August 05, 2011, 01:42:48 AM
Quote from: GeekEclectic;472023A brand new Mummy game(no subtitle as of now)

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Lawbag

#8
August 05, 2011, 04:18:57 AM
Quote from: Benoist;472028And a Victorian supplement for Changeling the Lost, which sounds like a cool idea.

I ran a Victorian Age/Werewolf/Changeling cross over a while back, and it will be nice to have this actually in writing now.
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Benoist

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August 05, 2011, 03:31:33 PM Last Edit: August 05, 2011, 10:19:10 PM by Benoist
Quote from: Benoist;472031The Apocalypse > The Forsaken
The Ascension > The Awakening
Well, completing my list of tastes just for kicks:

The Apocalypse > The Forsaken
The Ascension > The Awakening

(Ascension's world with Awakening's rules might be the superior alloy here, but I went in a different direction with Awakening when building my NWoD Paris, creating my own background out of its base + Nephilim + Ars Magica, basically)

The Masquerade = The Requiem

(but different, with one being delivered with a very much preordained universe, while the other is still very much open to interpretations. It's also great to steal from one game to use in the other)

The Dreaming < The Lost
The Oblivion = Orpheus = Geist, in different ways of course. I might prefer Orpheus out of the three, actually.

No real opinion on the Hunters games, since I didn't play/use the OWoD one. I like the NWoD version.

The Mummy game... we'll see.

And of course, last but not least, Promethean. Totally awesome game.

Benoist

#10
August 05, 2011, 03:34:23 PM
Quote from: Lawbag;472057I ran a Victorian Age/Werewolf/Changeling cross over a while back, and it will be nice to have this actually in writing now.
Sounds like a fun mix for sure. :)

FrankTrollman

#11
August 05, 2011, 06:21:07 PM
Quote from: Ian Warner;472008Strange: I didn't think Fuzzy Eco Terrorist was as popular as Fuzzy Spirit Cop?

Subjective: I don't know anyone who is even lukewarm to Fuzzy Spirit Street Cop. I know several people who are nostalgic (though in most cases guiltily nostalgic) for Fuzzy Eco Terrorist.

Objective: CCP is pushing oWoD products pretty hard, but V:tR is being kept on as a Vampire romance line (this announcement broke my brain and I had to reboot, but I can now see the logic). As far as I know, there aren't any W:tF materials on the forecast at all, it's just being dropped and no one seems to care.

Interpretive: CCP released sales figures for the 7 year period combining Time of Judgement and nWoD and from the time before that. The total book sales from that period were approximately 1.5 million books. The book sales from before that were over 5.5 million books. So the default assumption is that any particular oWoD line was much more popular than any particular nWoD line unless there is direct evidence to the contrary.

I have every reason to believe that W:tA is much more popular than W:tF.

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Ian Warner

#12
August 05, 2011, 06:23:35 PM
Well anyway I've lost patience with both and will now be playing a game that is actually about Werewolves instead.
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James Gillen

#13
August 06, 2011, 01:40:10 AM
Fact #1: Werewolves are mammals.
Fact #2: Werewolves fight ALL the time.
Fact #3: The purpose of werewolves is to flip out and kill people.
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Benoist

#14
August 06, 2011, 01:57:05 AM
Quote from: Ian Warner;472122Well anyway I've lost patience with both and will now be playing a game that is actually about Werewolves instead.
Dude, if your Werewolf game is just about eco-warriors or just about spirit cops, I'm guessing maybe you're doing something wrong. I wouldn't blame the game for that.
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