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OBS new policies

Started by VengerSatanis, June 27, 2022, 04:26:48 PM

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Hopladamus

Quote from: GhostNinja on July 01, 2022, 08:22:15 AM
Quote from: Hopladamus on June 30, 2022, 06:12:30 PM
Eh, I can't agree with him on this. Let's be honest here, the main appeal of your OBS alternative would be that it's more pro-free speech than the OBS, so that's how you should market it. Anyone who outspokenly supports free speech is controversial in the TTRPG industry.

I agree, and free speech is a main tenant to my plan.   If an item violates our policy, report it.  But we wont pull it until we are sure it actually violates or policy and it will have to be really bad to do so.

And if what Spinachcat said is true and OBS really does offer higher percentages for exclusives, then the only people who would be reasonably interested in selling on your store are the people who stand the risk of being censored or banned on OBS. That's why you should be working together with the "pro-free speech" publishers on this site. I have already given you some names. Pundit, Venger, and Grim Jim are the obvious choices. TheEvilDM is another good choice since he's a professional designer who made Mazes and Perils, he got a bit involved with the TSR drama though, but he is generally considered innocent. Zak Smith is fine since, even though he's kinda two-faced, he still makes good games and didn't deserve to be banned from OBS. Now, as for the Judges Guild, Robert Bledsaw II is kind of a white nationalist, but most of the games he sells were made by his father who was not. And he was also banned from OBS for his politics, which is dumb. Most of the Judges Guild customers are actually fans of his father's work, and not him, so they probably don't share his politics. Now, as for Varg and MYFAROG, he most definitely is a white nationalist, and, while I do think that allowing him to sell his games on your site would be good, it would attract a white nationalist audience, who have a tendency to think that any pro-free speech platform is a good place for their "10 Reasons Why Holocaust Couldn't Have Happened" list, so that's something that you should keep in mind.

Anyway, the best people to be your partners in this endeavor are, in my opinion, Pundit, Venger, Grim, and TheEvilDM.

Rob Necronomicon

I quite like the name of RPG-Direct. It's short and snappy.

It'd be great if it brought small creators together (even if you may not like their games). Just a place for creativity without politics (IMO).


Battlemaster

#182
Hey venger, someone just got perma'd at tbp for slightly defending you.

Which gets back to my question about where does satire fit on the spectrum of offensive? Like some comedians, the intent is to be loud and offensive, but in a presumably entertaining way. So to me, VS (since he's the obvious example here) is making fun of certain groups and attitudes with a gonzo but satirical heavy hand... primarily for entertainment purposes. It's freaking obvious to me that the material is not seriously political as much a cultural statement. He's not going to change anyone's party or who they prefer to associate with. I wonder if adding a satire and/or parody flag to a product would be appropriate for OBS? That way they can get product out and you know... generate revenue rather than generating policy like a fascist dictator. [That last part is supposed to be humor, just in case you don't get it.]

Heres's the notice.
After a six year absence you finally return to defend a notorious hatemonger with the "it's only a joke" apologia. You clearly have no interest in this community. Go away.

Oh they said this about you in the thread.
Darrick Dishaw (Venger Satanis) genuinely hates the people that he's satirizing. Outside of his game products, when talking about his actual everyday non-comical beliefs, he's stated that queer people are grooming children, among other things. The same exact thing said by that the group of over 30 Neo-Nazis who were arrested for planning an armed attack on a Pride parade. You think giving him a platform is okay because he expresses his violent real-life, actual sincere beliefs in a joking hyperbolic way when he's writing under his stupid pseudonym?

I mean, do you think that actual Klansmen and Neo-Nazis don't also tell the occasional racist joke about killing people of minority groups? And thus the racist joke is okay because it's a joke, and the fact that those people also want to kill members of other races shouldn't be factored into how we take it?

Of course they compared you to the kkk and nazis.

Man, announce a defamation abd slander case against them, take up a gofundme and go for it. Hell, go on rightwing media and claim you're being persecuted bya woke company. You'll probably pull in a lot of donations and be able to launch a lawsuit since then named you abd said you 'genuinely hate' people . How can they claim to know your emotional state and stqrenit as fact?

Even if the suit gets tossed you walk away with some bucks.
Fuck the fascist right and the fascist left.

VengerSatanis

Quote from: Battlemaster on July 02, 2022, 09:13:33 AM
Hey venger, someknenjust got perma'd at tbp for slightly defending you.

Which gets back to my question about where does satire fit on the spectrum of offensive? Like some comedians, the intent is to be loud and offensive, but in a presumably entertaining way. So to me, VS (since he's the obvious example here) is making fun of certain groups and attitudes with a gonzo but satirical heavy hand... primarily for entertainment purposes. It's freaking obvious to me that the material is not seriously political as much a cultural statement. He's not going to change anyone's party or who they prefer to associate with. I wonder if adding a satire and/or parody flag to a product would be appropriate for OBS? That way they can get product out and you know... generate revenue rather than generating policy like a fascist dictator. [That last part is supposed to be humor, just in case you don't get it.]

Heres's the notice.
After a six year absence you finally return to defend a notorious hatemonger with the "it's only a joke" apologia. You clearly have no interest in this community. Go away.

Oh they said this about you in the thread.
Darrick Dishaw (Venger Satanis) genuinely hates the people that he's satirizing. Outside of his game products, when talking about his actual everyday non-comical beliefs, he's stated that queer people are grooming children, among other things. The same exact thing said by that the group of over 30 Neo-Nazis who were arrested for planning an armed attack on a Pride parade. You think giving him a platform is okay because he expresses his violent real-life, actual sincere beliefs in a joking hyperbolic way when he's writing under his stupid pseudonym?

I mean, do you think that actual Klansmen and Neo-Nazis don't also tell the occasional racist joke about killing people of minority groups? And thus the racist joke is okay because it's a joke, and the fact that those people also want to kill members of other races shouldn't be factored into how we take it?

Of course they compared you to the kkk and nazis.

Man, announce a defamation abd slander case against them, take up a gofundme and go for it. Hell, go on rightwing media and claim you're being persecuted bya woke company. You'll probably pull in a lot of donations and be able to launch a lawsuit since then named you abd said you 'genuinely hate' people . How can they claim to know your emotional state and stqrenit as fact?

Even if the suit gets tossed you walk away with some bucks.

Yes, worth considering!

BTW, I have some news... DTRPG sent me a short list of minor changes.  I had layout make those changes and DTRPG will re-review Rainbow Crystal Utopia next week.  So, we'll see what they say.

Yesterday's blog post that says the same thing: https://vengersatanis.blogspot.com/2022/07/rainbow-bound.html


Tubesock Army

Or better yet, put another curse on them! Ooga-booga!

Tubesock Army

Quote from: VengerSatanis on July 02, 2022, 10:07:47 AM
Quote from: Battlemaster on July 02, 2022, 09:13:33 AM
Hey venger, someknenjust got perma'd at tbp for slightly defending you.

Which gets back to my question about where does satire fit on the spectrum of offensive? Like some comedians, the intent is to be loud and offensive, but in a presumably entertaining way. So to me, VS (since he's the obvious example here) is making fun of certain groups and attitudes with a gonzo but satirical heavy hand... primarily for entertainment purposes. It's freaking obvious to me that the material is not seriously political as much a cultural statement. He's not going to change anyone's party or who they prefer to associate with. I wonder if adding a satire and/or parody flag to a product would be appropriate for OBS? That way they can get product out and you know... generate revenue rather than generating policy like a fascist dictator. [That last part is supposed to be humor, just in case you don't get it.]

Heres's the notice.
After a six year absence you finally return to defend a notorious hatemonger with the "it's only a joke" apologia. You clearly have no interest in this community. Go away.

Oh they said this about you in the thread.
Darrick Dishaw (Venger Satanis) genuinely hates the people that he's satirizing. Outside of his game products, when talking about his actual everyday non-comical beliefs, he's stated that queer people are grooming children, among other things. The same exact thing said by that the group of over 30 Neo-Nazis who were arrested for planning an armed attack on a Pride parade. You think giving him a platform is okay because he expresses his violent real-life, actual sincere beliefs in a joking hyperbolic way when he's writing under his stupid pseudonym?

I mean, do you think that actual Klansmen and Neo-Nazis don't also tell the occasional racist joke about killing people of minority groups? And thus the racist joke is okay because it's a joke, and the fact that those people also want to kill members of other races shouldn't be factored into how we take it?

Of course they compared you to the kkk and nazis.

Man, announce a defamation abd slander case against them, take up a gofundme and go for it. Hell, go on rightwing media and claim you're being persecuted bya woke company. You'll probably pull in a lot of donations and be able to launch a lawsuit since then named you abd said you 'genuinely hate' people . How can they claim to know your emotional state and stqrenit as fact?

Even if the suit gets tossed you walk away with some bucks.

Yes, worth considering!

BTW, I have some news... DTRPG sent me a short list of minor changes.  I had layout make those changes and DTRPG will re-review Rainbow Crystal Utopia next week.  So, we'll see what they say.

Yesterday's blog post that says the same thing: https://vengersatanis.blogspot.com/2022/07/rainbow-bound.html

You're such a cuck

VengerSatanis

Quote from: Tubesock Army on July 02, 2022, 10:07:58 AM
Or better yet, put another curse on them! Ooga-booga!

They're already languishing in the sub-mediocrity that is RPGnet; full of delusion, victimhood, soy Marxist revolution, and cringe insanity... what could be worse than that?