Quote from: The Exploited.;1137067Well, when they want to take it out - we just put it back in. Fuck 'em!

Now, I just want to make an Oriental OSR game called Ninjas, Hookers and Hentai.

This guy gets it

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;1137070Unfortunately, like the conservative justice warriors here whinging about something maybe not being produced because of SJWs, they are lazy and completely without initiative or resolve, and will produce nothing except whinges.

I don't understand your point here. Conservatives can't be upset about Oriental Adventures potentially being pulled from DTRPG because they haven't written their own asian RPG supplement?

OA was a GREAT game. It was a new D&D game in one book - chargen, new rules, monsters, setting.

I highly recommend getting a hardback. Otherwise, plenty of PDF options.

Its laughable to think now how much OA inspired people to learn more about Asian history and culture, caused innumerable gamers to become interested in Asian movies and books, and NOW that source of inspiration must be destroyed...in the name of equality!

BTW, every leftist criticism against OA works to cancel Legend of the Five Rings.

Quote from: tenbones;1137014Wait til they find out the Kara-Tur boxset was written by a black man...

Won't matter in the slightest.

SJWs get to decide who's black or not.
 

Quote from: SHARK;1137040How about some of these executives and high-placed game designers just tell these whining bitches to "Shut the fuck up, sobbing bitches! The books stay the way they are. End of story. Whine some more, and you're done. You can collect your final check on Friday."

Corporate clowns are cowards.

Has any name brand company stood up against cancel culture and said FUCK OFF?

Quote from: Shawn Driscoll;1137083Whatever happened with D&D being banned for Satan worship? Now it's being banned for not being gay enough.

That was the Satanic Panic. This is the Racism Panic. Basically the same thing, just a different coat of paint. These sorts of mass hysteria, media driven events seem to come around every 30 years. So just to keep your expectations up, expect another one of these purity purges if you live that long.

Quote from: tenbones;1137064It's racist to them because 1) white people wrote it.

That's it.

I'm fairly confident in their own eyes they couldn't do better given the point of their outrage has nothing to do with racism, but reflexive need to call out blasphemy wherever possible.

Oh the poor asians, always exploited! Why do SJWs want to portray asians as the victims of white people?

Quote from: tenbones;1137082Don't worry - some moron will say "Orient" is racist... and it should be "Asian"...

Nevermind they're just Roman and Greek for the same thing respectively. But you know... white supremacy.

I love Oriental Adventure. It's not perfect, but dammit it was pretty seminal in introducing a lot of stuff I loved about D&D.

It's still a fantasy world, seems fairly respectful of asian culture, it didn't portray asians as a bunch of idiots after all, it wasn't derogatory. As for being inaccurate, oriental adventures describes a fictional world, in order for it to be accurate, that fictional world would have to exist.

How would you like the idea of female samurai, would that be inaccurate?

Quote from: hedgehobbit;1137094I don't understand your point here. Conservatives can't be upset about Oriental Adventures potentially being pulled from DTRPG because they haven't written their own asian RPG supplement?

I think you are missing his point...

The people complaining about OA are never the ones that create an Asian-inspired game that meets their own standards of acceptability, they just tear down the work of others.

In pretty much the same way that conservatives like to bitch and moan about the SJW taking away the books they love, rather than actually producing anything themselves.

IMHO, it's a fair point... it's a heck of a lot easier to criticise something than it is to lead by example and produce something that meets your own expectations.

Quote from: Tyberious Funk;1137107I think you are missing his point...

The people complaining about OA are never the ones that create an Asian-inspired game that meets their own standards of acceptability, they just tear down the work of others.

In pretty much the same way that conservatives like to bitch and moan about the SJW taking away the books they love, rather than actually producing anything themselves.

IMHO, it's a fair point... it's a heck of a lot easier to criticise something than it is to lead by example and produce something that meets your own expectations.

In this particular example. the conservatives aren't trying to cancel anything the SJWs are consuming. That's the damn point.
They can read all the politically woke garbage they like. I'll mock it, but I'll never say they shouldn't be able to sell or buy it.

Quote from: hedgehobbit;1137094I don't understand your point here. Conservatives can't be upset about Oriental Adventures potentially being pulled from DTRPG because they haven't written their own asian RPG supplement?

I'm referring to other threads, where people are complaining that this or that writer was "cancelled", or their works pulled from some publisher's website. In those I responded that the best way to deal with that was to go ahead and publish anyway - never before in history has it been as easy to publish things as today. The CJWs responded only with whinging; anyone complaining today needs to look at the obstacles Gygax overcame to publish his first rpg. Hint: he had to do more than upload a pdf to a website for free.

The rpg CJWs complain, the rpg SJWs complain, and in each case the answer is the same: if you don't like it, produce your own better product, and put it up for sale.

Quote from: Tyberious Funk;1137107IMHO, it's a fair point... it's a heck of a lot easier to criticise something than it is to lead by example and produce something that meets your own expectations.

The Funk gets it. He's a smart guy, that's why we used to game with him.

Quote from: Tom Kalbfus;1137101Oh the poor asians, always exploited!

Most famously by asians.

I have the book and used it for source material and NPCs.  
Although my players preferred playing Occidental Adventures despite the ridiculous tropes.

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1137110In this particular example. the conservatives aren't trying to cancel anything the SJWs are consuming. That's the damn point.

In this particular example?  No, you are right.  But conservatives are complaining that a company shouldn't be able to do whatever they like with their own product.  

QuoteThey can read all the politically woke garbage they like. I'll mock it, but I'll never say they shouldn't be able to sell or buy it.

But you are suggesting that the SJW can't choose to not sell a product that they've already produced.  Unless you are suggesting that WotC and DTRPG are in fact not SJW companies.

OA never struck me as racist, quite the opposite actually.  But then, I read it probably 30 years ago, so my recollection may be faulty.  Besides, at the end of the day, it belongs to WotC and I figure it's their right to withdraw it from sale if they so choose.  The likelihood I would ever (a) play a 1st edition D&D game, and (b) set it in Kara-Tur is pretty close to zero, so I'm not going to get butt-hurt over something like this.  Besides, I have my copy anyway... maybe if it does get withdrawn, my copy (pristine condition, too) will actually be worth something!

This makes the weeb cry. Finally something to cite in denying a weeb a katana. But yeah, the concept that some older books might make the virtue signal list was always there but i'm surprised it's this book. This is the first time I've heard anyone even hint that the book might be racist.

Whats next? I dont want to give examples i could think of because it might give them ideas and they really dont care abotu the hobby they just want to fule their political agenda with the fire they throw they books in. The books were written in another time and for another audience and the current sjw crowd seems intent on overwriting the past. They end results of such actions have been described in Farenheit 666 quite well. Hyperboly? Possibly but i shudder to imagine how history shows such stuff ends. And fiction reflects human history to some degree.

Anyway, samurais and ninjas will always find a crowd not really interested in pc culture but in historical accuracy, which gives me hope for the future. Saly this confirms nothing old is safe, i expect to see other rpg works to follow suit. Hoo boy, i wonder what they will do when they discover Fatal.

Quote from: MonsterSlayer;1137050I was always way more interested in horrible cliches and racial stereotypes concerning Europeans.

7th Sea?