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Title: Non-D&D derived retroclones.
Post by: Silverlion on June 23, 2010, 01:05:09 PM
I know of these two:

4C (Marvel Clone) although it has weak support it has some support.

Zebfrs Conan/Zebulon's Guide style Fantasy Roleplaying System.


Do you know of any others?
Title: Non-D&D derived retroclones.
Post by: Benoist on June 23, 2010, 01:13:43 PM
I would consider Mongoose Traveller and Mongoose's RuneQuest II to be clones in their own way.
They are directly inspired by the originals, duplicate some if not most of their mechanics, yet they really aren't originals themselves.

I don't think the fact they were published by Mongoose makes a difference. It's not about 'indie games' or all of that shit. The play's the thing, here.
Title: Non-D&D derived retroclones.
Post by: Akrasia on June 23, 2010, 01:16:36 PM
GORE from Goblinoid Games (a retro-clone of BRP, which suffered from the fact that the fullblown BRP book was published months after it was released).

OpenQuest from D101 games (a "near-clone" of Avalon Hill's RuneQuest III, drawing on Mongoose's MRQI SRD).

I am especially fond of OpenQuest.
Title: Non-D&D derived retroclones.
Post by: thedungeondelver on June 23, 2010, 01:18:55 PM
Encounter Critical?
Title: Non-D&D derived retroclones.
Post by: Akrasia on June 23, 2010, 01:35:45 PM
Quote from: thedungeondelver;389383Encounter Critical?

It's not a 'clone' or even a 'near clone', but rather a 'faux' old school game.

'Mazes & Minotaurs' would be another game in that genre.
Title: Non-D&D derived retroclones.
Post by: Spinachcat on June 23, 2010, 01:53:27 PM
Mutant Future is the Gamma World clone.

It has spidergoats.
Title: Non-D&D derived retroclones.
Post by: Joey2k on June 23, 2010, 02:11:54 PM
Legends of the Ancient World (http://www.darkcitygames.com/), a clone of The Fantasy Trip.  There are also adaptations for Sci-Fi and Old West.
Title: Non-D&D derived retroclones.
Post by: brettmb on June 23, 2010, 03:11:43 PM
Ancient Odysseys: Treasure Awaits! (http://www.pigames.net/store/default.php?cPath=101&) is also a faux clone.
Title: Non-D&D derived retroclones.
Post by: Claudius on June 23, 2010, 05:52:13 PM
Quote from: Benoist;389380I would consider Mongoose Traveller and Mongoose's RuneQuest II to be clones in their own way.
They are directly inspired by the originals, duplicate some if not most of their mechanics, yet they really aren't originals themselves.

I don't think the fact they were published by Mongoose makes a difference. It's not about 'indie games' or all of that shit. The play's the thing, here.
I would like to disagree with you, but it's not so easy! I never thought of MRQ2 as a clone, but I'm starting to think you might be right. In any case, I'm glad to have it, it's one of the best versions of the BRP system.
Title: Non-D&D derived retroclones.
Post by: Silverlion on June 23, 2010, 05:59:42 PM
Interesting I didn't consider Mutant Future a clone--I love it, but I didn't consider it a "clone" since it has some of its own mechanical feel. (Then again I love GW, but preferred 2/4 for play.)

I see about Runequest and the like, that makes logical sense if if they aren't solicited/called that.
Title: Non-D&D derived retroclones.
Post by: Dirk Remmecke on June 24, 2010, 07:04:26 AM
Quote from: Silverlion;389551Interesting I didn't consider Mutant Future a clone--I love it, but I didn't consider it a "clone" since it has some of its own mechanical feel.

Mutant Future is not really a GW clone - it is a GW re-imagining using the Labyrinth Lord rules, in the same way that Spellcraft & Swordplay (http://stores.lulu.com/elflairgames) is a "Chainmail turned RPG" "what-if clone".

There once was talk of an de-Tekumel-ed Empire of the Petal Throne clone, Swords of the Steel Throne (http://odd74.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=ept&action=display&thread=1048), but it never materialized. (The most interesting bit was that it would not have used the OGL, and that it would have been an OD&D rewrite without OGL, effectively!)

Mini Six (http://antipaladingames.com/minisix.html) is a d6 System clone.

Kyle's Sixlettersystem (http://sixlettersystem.pbworks.com/) (GAMERS) is a loose Classic Traveller clone, turned universal system.

The Allseeing Eye (http://www.apolitical.info/webgame/eye/) is a clone of the first edition of Das Schwarze Auge/The Dark Eye.
Title: Non-D&D derived retroclones.
Post by: Benoist on June 24, 2010, 12:16:19 PM
Quote from: Dirk Remmecke;389734Mutant Future is not really a GW clone - it is a GW re-imagining using the Labyrinth Lord rules, in the same way that Spellcraft & Swordplay (http://stores.lulu.com/elflairgames) is a "Chainmail turned RPG" "what-if clone".
Excellent clone, by the way, that deserves a lot more praise and playing, if you see what I mean. ;)