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Bren · March 20, 2020, 10:50:54 AM

Quote from: Armchair Gamer;1124631Oh, I'm not taking Fox's side by any means--but for Pundit to call someone out as a megalomaniac, well ...

Yeah, Pundit is one very black pot.

RPGPundit · March 21, 2020, 03:25:03 AM

Quote from: Armchair Gamer;1124578Dang it, Pundit, warn us before you're going to spike the ironimeter like that!

I go out of my way NOT to show off my name, image or anything else about me. I've also never sockpuppeted 4chan, either to promote my game or try to doxx my business rivals.

Spinachcat · March 21, 2020, 03:34:42 AM

Dude, you put the MEGA in the Lomaniac. It's your brand and its done you good. Wear it with honor.

And you don't pull bullshit like Danny Asshat because you're not a scumbag. People notice. His "Woke Warhammer" scam doesn't have a future. He's shit all over his brand, alienated Warhammer fans and his product is an overpriced brick. And I was an early supporter of his project before he and the book went off the rails.

Slipshot762 · March 21, 2020, 05:17:43 PM

Quote from: Spinachcat;1124681Dude, you put the MEGA in the Lomaniac. It's your brand and its done you good. Wear it with honor.

And you don't pull bullshit like Danny Asshat because you're not a scumbag. People notice. His "Woke Warhammer" scam doesn't have a future. He's shit all over his brand, alienated Warhammer fans and his product is an overpriced brick. And I was an early supporter of his project before he and the book went off the rails.

warhammer is dead to me

Gagarth · March 22, 2020, 01:15:34 PM

OK they (you know who you are) said mandatory use of safety tools at conventions was just a conspiracy theory put out by Nazis.

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GeekEclectic · March 22, 2020, 04:24:57 PM

Quote from: Gagarth;1124774https://tabletop.events/conventions/friends-of-contessa-cyberspace-game-fest/pages/code-of-conduct27

Oh, yeah, that's ConTessa. They tend to be at the forefront of pretty much all this crap, so this isn't surprising in the least.

Krugus · March 22, 2020, 06:12:19 PM

Quote from: Gagarth;1124774OK they (you know who you are) said mandatory use of safety tools at conventions was just a conspiracy theory put out by Nazis.

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I've found its my players that bring disturbing content into my campaign vs me the GM and its the usual suspects so we just roll our eyes and move on.

No x card needed but then again most of us are adults who have played together for 30+ years so we don't usually have any issues like this.

From the sounds of it, I will never go to another convention again. Let them live in their fantasy land while my group will continue to have fun in ours.

Melan · March 23, 2020, 02:54:54 AM

Crazy Cat Lady Con does not count.

Gagarth · March 23, 2020, 06:14:32 AM

Quote from: Melan;1124812Crazy Cat Lady Con does not count.

Why things always start from somewhere. For instance eating bats.

rgalex · March 23, 2020, 09:24:31 AM

Quote3. All GMs must use some form of safety tool during their game. Explain to your players how it will work with your game at the beginning.

This is the X-Card. At this table, during this game session, if something happens you find triggering, offensive, distasteful, etc. you are free to tap the X-Card. When you do you are immediately allowed to excuse yourself from the rest of the game without anyone questioning you as to why. This way the rest of us may play in safety and not have to worry about breaking you down into a gibbering glob of neurosis that should never have come to a public game in the first place.

tenbones · March 23, 2020, 11:40:12 AM

Do body-condoms count as safety-devices?

Snark Knight · March 24, 2020, 11:13:09 AM

Quote from: tenbones;1124836Do body-condoms count as safety-devices?

They're phallic and a thus symbol of toxic masculinity/the patriarchy, so no.

Ghostmaker · March 25, 2020, 08:03:20 AM

Quote from: Gagarth;1124774OK they (you know who you are) said mandatory use of safety tools at conventions was just a conspiracy theory put out by Nazis.

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See, #1 doesn't bug me. Some games get into the deep end of the pool (Call of Cthulhu, Unknown Armies, even WoD/CoD) so it's a good idea to be upfront about it. It's the same reason I don't have a problem with ratings on vidya and movies.

But here's the thing: if you stick with rule #1, you shouldn't even NEED #3. Everyone there should be aware 'hey, we're going to the Dark Place, make sure you have your helmet on and your flashlight charged'.

deadDMwalking · March 25, 2020, 03:23:39 PM

Quote from: Ghostmaker;1124927Everyone there should be aware 'hey, we're going to the Dark Place, make sure you have your helmet on and your flashlight charged'.

The problem is not everyone agrees what a 'dark place' is. Having 'don't drop the soap' jokes may seem lighthearted fun to some of the guys, and maybe Bruce Banner doesn't want to have to explain about his YMCA rape to explain why he doesn't think that's funny. Tapping an x-card is less disruptive than Hulking out (or suffering a panic attack).

jhkim · March 25, 2020, 07:04:42 PM

Quote from: Ghostmaker;1124927See, #1 doesn't bug me. Some games get into the deep end of the pool (Call of Cthulhu, Unknown Armies, even WoD/CoD) so it's a good idea to be upfront about it. It's the same reason I don't have a problem with ratings on vidya and movies.

But here's the thing: if you stick with rule #1, you shouldn't even NEED #3. Everyone there should be aware 'hey, we're going to the Dark Place, make sure you have your helmet on and your flashlight charged'.

In practice, I find that even among traditional players, it's normal for people to sign on for a "dark" game -- but then later have misgivings if it gets *too* dark for them. Everyone has their lines, whether that's torture or child abuse or sex or whatever.

That doesn't mean that the X-card is the required answer, though. There are many other approaches -- like just speaking up and saying "Hey, this is too dark for me" and then informally talking to the GM about it. I would note that at Big Bad Con, the phrase "safety tool" can mean a number of approaches - including the simple "open door policy" - which just means that if you have a problem with the game, you're welcome to walk out.