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Title: My Gamescience dice are shit.
Post by: J Arcane on January 21, 2012, 08:32:12 PM
I bought a set of clear Gamescience dice on vacation last year, and was a bit disappointed at the time, but as I didn't have much gaming going on at the time, I didn't think much of it.

Now that I'm living with someone who owns real tools, and I'm gearing up to do some proper gaming, I pulled them out of the box to give them a proper look and maybe take the file and sandpaper to them to clean them up.

And they fucking suck. They are a mess. In addition to the oft warned about sprue marks, there are some out right failures on several of the dice. One has what looks like a big fingerprint on it, as if someone had tried to grab it while the plastic was still hot. Another has black streaks running into it from the sprue mark.  

Two of the dice were improperly filled in the mold, and so rather than a sprue mark there's a cavitation in the die surface, essentially a chunk missing out of the dice because the plastic ran out.

There's only three dice in the set that I would call acceptable and even they've got white marks where the die was cut off the sprue.

It's well past purchase date, and apparently the company is in the process of being sold to yet another owner, so I doubt replacement is possible, or even desired.

I just wished to express the fact that these dice rather failed to live up to the hype.
Title: My Gamescience dice are shit.
Post by: stu2000 on January 21, 2012, 08:37:44 PM
I have some new ones I like, and some I picked up 20 years ago are still great. I still swear by them and advocate their use.

However--I have seen a few of the flaws you're talking about out in the world. Absolutely sucks that you got a bunch of them in one set.
Title: My Gamescience dice are shit.
Post by: _kent_ on January 21, 2012, 08:45:51 PM
Customers get the dice they deserve from Gamescience. That's why I think they are awesome!
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Post by: Malleus Arianorum on January 22, 2012, 12:16:05 AM
That's a shame. I've got around thirty Gamescience dice and they consistantly get complements for their (imagined) perfection. I know better since I slaved away on them for days, and I am bitterly aware that I was never was able to correct a host of problems.
 
I dunno if it's still this way, but when I looked into the GS a few years ago quite a few places were selling defective sets of GS at a 50% discount. They were described like you said but I never bought any and don't know anything else about them.
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Post by: thedungeondelver on January 22, 2012, 01:20:14 AM
The set I got is a mixed bag.

A couple of the D6s are a joke - a couple of the number sides are practically dished in ("precision" in a pig's eye), and the d% are just fucking terrible; the numbers are too shallow to take a proper coloring in on the 10s die and the 1s die has circular machine marks around each number that are prominent now that the die is colored.

The D8, D12, D4 and D20 and 2 of the D6s are on the other hand wonderful.  The color varies, too.  I got a set of "powder blue" and some are clearly darker than the others.  

SCI, I AM DISAPPOINT.
Title: My Gamescience dice are shit.
Post by: B.T. on January 22, 2012, 02:01:47 AM
I am a GameScience defender.

1. Don't judge GS dice until you've seen them.
2. So what if you've seen them?  You can't judge them until you've rolled them.
3. What do you mean you've rolled them, I never had that problem with my GS dice.  You must be rolling them wrong.

;)

In all seriousness, a friend of mine bought me a set for my birthday.  They're opaque white with gold inlay, and they are quite the set.  There are the slight imperfections on them, but as Zocchi notes, it's because they're precision cut, not molded.  I'll probably take an exacto knife to them to smooth out the edges, but I'm not too worried at this point.

Sorry 'bout your bad set.  Contact the company and get a refund?
Title: My Gamescience dice are shit.
Post by: Simlasa on January 22, 2012, 03:47:50 AM
So have you tried contacting the company to see if they'll help make the situation right?
I've received defective stuff from a number of gaming companies and the real mark is how they are to deal with when I have an issue.
If you'd rather just go on a website and complain about it I suppose that's another option... but I won't have much of a concern about it until the company has been given a chance to correct its errors.
Title: My Gamescience dice are shit.
Post by: Serious Paul on January 22, 2012, 04:22:03 PM
I've never used, or even read thing on these dice-but I agree if they're fucked up get a refund, or something like that. I mean you wouldn't let some sell you a pair of shoes and ship only the left one right?
Title: My Gamescience dice are shit.
Post by: Benoist on January 22, 2012, 04:27:54 PM
My gamescience dice (originally ordered through Amazon) are awesome. All I did was take an X-acto knife and carefully cut off the "beard" at the point where they were held to the molds, and painted the numbers in with a Staedtler pen for technical drawings: (http://www.staedtler.ca/technical_pens_ca)

(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/24820_430568733975_691103975_5461140_280050_n.jpg)

They work great at the game table.
Title: My Gamescience dice are shit.
Post by: stu2000 on January 22, 2012, 05:57:26 PM
I don't think the same quality control is used by the new guys. I recently picked up a couple sets of the odd dice, in case I want to run some DCC in the future. The faces had some anomolous grooves that made them a little tricky to ink. I got the job done, and they weren't as bad as what J describes, but they weren't pristine.

Definitely send  them back. Tell them if they want to ride the coattails  of the brand, they have to maintain the quality that built it. I'd hate my favorite dice to take on that "better back in the day" characteristic that so many of my things have. Makes me sound even more curmudgeonly than I actually am.
Title: My Gamescience dice are shit.
Post by: J Arcane on January 22, 2012, 06:29:15 PM
Ok, a few points.

1. I purchased these almost a year ago. I don't even have the original packaging or the receipt.

2. The new owners, Gamestation.net only have a 30 day return policy.

3. I didn't buy it from them anyway, I bought them from a shop in Portland.

4. Gamescience itself doesn't even have a full page at this point, and provides no contact information except the toll free number for Gamestation, so contacting them is out.

5. I'm not grog enough to be best buds with Lou, and he doesn't seem to own the company anymore anyhow.

6. I'm not going through the effort if trying to convince a new company to refund a sale they didn't make just to satisfy some forum fanboys.

I posted the thread out of annoyance, and as an alternate viewpoint to the "Gamescience are the best" line that even I in all fairness have fallen for in the past. They may have been great then, but I can't say as my present experience leads me to conclude their greatness now.
Title: My Gamescience dice are shit.
Post by: B.T. on January 22, 2012, 07:52:56 PM
Quote from: j arcane;5078356. I'm not going through the effort if trying to convince a new company to refund a sale they didn't make just to satisfy some forum fanboys.
RAWR THESE STUPID FANBOYS how dare you idiots make suggestions on how to rectify my problem!!!

DON'T YOU KNOW YOUR OPINIONS ARE [size=16]WRONG???[/size]
Title: My Gamescience dice are shit.
Post by: Rincewind1 on January 22, 2012, 08:00:46 PM
Quote6. I'm not going through the effort if trying to convince a new company to refund a sale they didn't make just to satisfy some forum fanboys.

So basically whining for whine's sake? Here, let me point you to a proper place for that:

http://forum.rpg.net/forumdisplay.php?4-Tangency-Open

Tis a sad day when I share an opinion with a Cisgendered Bigot formerly known as Racist Right-Wing Bigot.

Hells, I don't really give a damn about the dice, as long as they roll. First time I heard about those "Gamescience Dice" - personally, I'm rather about to invest in a few sets of metallic dices. One golden, one copper and one silver. Not actually made out of gold or silver, of course - just coloured that way.
Title: My Gamescience dice are shit.
Post by: Ancientgamer1970 on January 22, 2012, 08:06:52 PM
QuoteI just wished to express the fact that these dice rather failed to live up to the hype.

As a consumer, I spend large sums of money on many gaming items but ONLY after I investigate thouroughly it is sold as advertised.  One group of people that I avoid when buying gaming products are fanboys because when it comes down to it, they are always supporting something regardless of the flaws because they are too caught up in themselves to admit they are wrong sometimes.

Game Science dice stink, plain and simple.
Title: My Gamescience dice are shit.
Post by: J Arcane on January 22, 2012, 08:25:52 PM
Quote from: Rincewind1;507859So basically whining for whine's sake? Here, let me point you to a proper place for that:

A little, but also in the interest of providing consumer feedback on a product that may not be as advertised, in a forum where many people inclined to purchase such a thing will see it.

As for a return, I'm simply trying to be realistic. Time is money, and I'm not inclined to spend that time trying to con a company into granting me a return on a product they never sold me, especially not over $12 and some forum whiners looking for points to score.

QuoteHells, I don't really give a damn about the dice, as long as they roll. First time I heard about those "Gamescience Dice" - personally, I'm rather about to invest in a few sets of metallic dices. One golden, one copper and one silver. Not actually made out of gold or silver, of course - just coloured that way.
In shopping around for a replacement set, I did consider metal dice, especially now that Crystal Caste makes some in full 16mm size, but IME metal dice are a bit heavy and as such don't really roll well.

I've been looking at the stuff out of Q-Workshop. They make some wicked looking dice, and the prices seem pretty fair for such detailed work. Thinking either the Dwarven set in gray and black, or the Atomic set in the fluorescent that glows in the dark.
Quote from: Ancientgamer1970;507861As a consumer, I spend large sums of money on many gaming items but ONLY after I investigate thouroughly it is sold as advertised.  One group of people that I avoid when buying gaming products are fanboys because when it comes down to it, they are always supporting something regardless of the flaws because they are too caught up in themselves to admit they are wrong sometimes.

Game Science dice stink, plain and simple.

I like to get feedback from actual users of any product before I purchase, and forums are generally a good place for that.  This site does lean pretty grog though, and a lot of grognards have old memories of Gamescience and old Lou, so while I got a few negative comments, mostly it was all praise.

So next chance I got, I finally bought a set that looked nice in the shop, and they let me down.  Incidentally, my friend at the time bought a set as well, one of the mixed color set, and I seem to recall him being a bit un satisfied as well, but I can't recall details.

I just thought I would share that experience, both to vent and to offer useful feedback, as I said above.
Title: My Gamescience dice are shit.
Post by: Rincewind1 on January 22, 2012, 08:28:17 PM
QuoteNo, in the interest of providing consumer feedback on a product that may not be as advertised, in a forum where many people inclined to purchase such a thing will see it.

Fair enough, and I agree on not wasting time & nerves over 12 bucks, but you still acted, and act like a condescending douchebag when given some friendly advice.


QuoteIn shopping around for a replacement set, I did consider metal dice, especially now that Crystal Caste makes some in full 16mm size, but IME metal dice are a bit heavy and as such don't really roll well.

I've been looking at the stuff out of Q-Workshop. They make some wicked looking dice, and the prices seem pretty fair for such detailed work. Thinking either the Dwarven set in gray and black, or the Atomic set in the fluorescent that glows in the dark.

Q-Workshop does some great stuff indeed - my favourite is the Cthulhu Glow In The Dark set.
Title: My Gamescience dice are shit.
Post by: Philotomy Jurament on January 22, 2012, 08:31:27 PM
Sorry to hear that your dice suck.

(I've had good experiences with Gamescience dice, but mine are a mix of very old ones, and some newer ones that I bought directly from Lou at a convention a few years ago.  I have no experience with the new owners of the brand and their product.)
Title: My Gamescience dice are shit.
Post by: Ancientgamer1970 on January 22, 2012, 08:36:00 PM
QuoteI like to get feedback from actual users of any product before I purchase, and forums are generally a good place for that. This site does lean pretty grog though, and a lot of grognards have old memories of Gamescience and old Lou, so while I got a few negative comments, mostly it was all praise.

So next chance I got, I finally bought a set that looked nice in the shop, and they let me down. Incidentally, my friend at the time bought a set as well, one of the mixed color set, and I seem to recall him being a but I satisfied as well, but I can't recall details.

I just thought I would share that experience, both to vent and to offer useful feedback, as I said above.

Grogtards are fanboys too, that is why I TEND to ignore the advice they give.
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Post by: B.T. on January 22, 2012, 08:45:52 PM
QuoteRacist Right-Wing Bigot.
I'm a Cisgendered Bigot now.  I have cis privilege and I'm not afraid of using it.
Title: My Gamescience dice are shit.
Post by: Rincewind1 on January 22, 2012, 08:52:36 PM
Quote from: B.T.;507874I'm a Cisgendered Bigot now.  I have cis privilege and I'm not afraid of using it.

Amended, then. I thought Cis* was a kind of a tree :P.


*It's Polish for yew.
Title: My Gamescience dice are shit.
Post by: crkrueger on January 22, 2012, 09:00:17 PM
I ordered some Gamescience dice from Gamestation, and some came a little off-color, I also got one that obviously should have been a discard.  I got replacements without any problem, they didn't even want the wrong color dice back even though they were fine physically.

I have noticed that the newer ones are more imperfect then the old ones, in some cases, but Gamestation has replaced everything with no muss no fuss.
Title: My Gamescience dice are shit.
Post by: TAFMSV on January 22, 2012, 09:07:16 PM
I bought one of the big sets with the silly dice about a year ago, and found  that my d24 had a cavity on one of the corners.  I got my receipt handy, and called their office.  They didn't request any sales information, rejected my offer to send the faulty one back to them, and sent me a replacement immediately, no questions asked (besides my name and address).

The changing ownership could be an issue, but in my experience the brand supplies customer service to match their boasting and high prices.
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Post by: Planet Algol on January 22, 2012, 10:17:17 PM
Regardless of quality issues, even my jankiest gamscience die stops of a fucking dime when I throw them; practically instant random integer generation.
Title: My Gamescience dice are shit.
Post by: jeff37923 on January 22, 2012, 10:19:49 PM
Something I've wondered. If one of the big selling points for Gamescience dice is that they stop rolling quickly and if that is what you are looking for in randomizers, then why not just buy an electronic dice roller?
Title: My Gamescience dice are shit.
Post by: Benoist on January 22, 2012, 10:23:02 PM
Quote from: jeff37923;507887Something I've wondered. If one of the big selling points for Gamescience dice is that they stop rolling quickly and if that is what you are looking for in randomizers, then why not just buy an electronic dice roller?
One of Planet Algol's regulars was using an app to roll dice, and I have one myself just in case, but that just doesn't feel the same as actual dice to me.
Title: My Gamescience dice are shit.
Post by: Rincewind1 on January 22, 2012, 10:30:23 PM
Blergh. Dice are dice - it's one of the odd pet peeves of mine, that I just hate dice rollers.

Except when someone will finally perhaps make an Artillery & Scatter die for Warhammer battle systems.
Title: My Gamescience dice are shit.
Post by: B.T. on January 22, 2012, 10:32:56 PM
Quote from: jeff37923;507887Something I've wondered. If one of the big selling points for Gamescience dice is that they stop rolling quickly and if that is what you are looking for in randomizers, then why not just buy an electronic dice roller?
You lose something when you play an RPG without dice.
Title: My Gamescience dice are shit.
Post by: Planet Algol on January 22, 2012, 10:37:02 PM
Quote from: jeff37923;507887Something I've wondered. If one of the big selling points for Gamescience dice is that they stop rolling quickly and if that is what you are looking for in randomizers, then why not just buy an electronic dice roller?
My experience with smartphone dice rollers is that by the time the user has unlocked their phone and hit the button they could have already throw a die several times over.
Title: My Gamescience dice are shit.
Post by: J Arcane on January 22, 2012, 10:38:10 PM
Quote from: jeff37923;507887Something I've wondered. If one of the big selling points for Gamescience dice is that they stop rolling quickly and if that is what you are looking for in randomizers, then why not just buy an electronic dice roller?

Or, if one desires physical dice and doesn't mind spending the cash, metal dice stop on a dime IME. The extra weight tends to make them roll little.

I do understand the complaint though, if only for d20s. Too round a d20 tends to roll like a ball. I've seen some clear a table if not stopped first.
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Post by: Planet Algol on January 22, 2012, 10:55:12 PM
I'm terrified of metal dice; I just imagine them being hellishly loud while putting dents in the tabletop.
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Post by: Ancientgamer1970 on January 22, 2012, 11:08:05 PM
QuoteYou lose something when you play an RPG without dice.

True but I still love my Dragon Bone...
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Post by: _kent_ on January 22, 2012, 11:31:55 PM
Quote from: Philotomy Jurament;507869Sorry to hear that your dice suck.

Why? Why are you sorry?
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Post by: TristramEvans on January 22, 2012, 11:52:11 PM
Quote from: B.T.;507892You lose something when you play an RPG without dice.

OTOH, you lose skin when you play a game with Gamescience dice. They are far too pointy.
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Post by: Planet Algol on January 23, 2012, 12:20:14 AM
Quote from: TristramEvans;507908OTOH, you lose skin when you play a game with Gamescience dice. They are far too pointy.
Perhaps you could cover everything with felt to protect your sensitive skin?
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Post by: Philotomy Jurament on January 23, 2012, 12:33:45 AM
Quote from: _kent_;507907Why? Why are you sorry?
Because I have empathy for the misfortune of others.
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Post by: Malleus Arianorum on January 23, 2012, 12:35:57 AM
Quote from: _kent_;507907Why? Why are you sorry?
Sympathy. Duh.
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Post by: jrients on January 23, 2012, 06:54:24 AM
Quote from: Ancientgamer1970;507861Game Science dice stink, plain and simple.

What dice do you use?

I've certainly heard reports that quality control has slipped post-Zocchi.  The two d24's I ordered had a huge amount of sprue on them.
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Post by: 3rik on January 23, 2012, 07:16:12 AM
I wonder where the idea came from that dice have to actually roll in order to randomize. I just shake them around in my hands and then put them down on the table surface without rolling, randomized. The supposed "accuracy" of the dice doesn't even matter that way.
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Post by: thedungeondelver on January 23, 2012, 09:16:43 AM
I'm paraphrasing here but I believe it was Gary who said the only reason a DM should roll dice is because he likes the sound they make when they hit the table. :)
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Post by: Rincewind1 on January 23, 2012, 09:50:08 AM
Quote from: Planet Algol;507898I'm terrified of metal dice; I just imagine them being hellishly loud while putting dents in the tabletop.

They don't, I've used metallic d6 a fair bit now.

Just don't HIT the table with them :P.
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Post by: TristramEvans on January 23, 2012, 11:21:41 AM
Quote from: Planet Algol;507914Perhaps you could cover everything with felt to protect your sensitive skin?

IF only.
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Post by: Rincewind1 on January 23, 2012, 11:24:00 AM
Quote from: TristramEvans;508054IF only.

Or put on chainmail gloves ;).
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Post by: TristramEvans on January 23, 2012, 11:45:11 AM
Quote from: Rincewind1;508056Or put on chainmail gloves ;).

The temptation to slap someone in the face with them while challenging them to a duel would probably be far too great.
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Post by: Rincewind1 on January 23, 2012, 11:47:22 AM
Quote from: TristramEvans;508067The temptation to slap someone in the face with them while challenging them to a duel would probably be far too great.

Yes, that is certainly a great temptation when wearing any gloves.
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Post by: Ladybird on January 23, 2012, 01:43:48 PM
Quote from: Rincewind1;508035They don't, I've used metallic d6 a fair bit now.

Just don't HIT the table with them :P.

I have a nice set of metal dice that I got on holiday, but they're just too small for where we used to play (A somewhat under-lit bar).

Given that we've moved somewhere brighter, I might start bringing them out again.
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Post by: RPGPundit on January 24, 2012, 12:13:29 PM
Quote from: Planet Algol;507898I'm terrified of metal dice; I just imagine them being hellishly loud while putting dents in the tabletop.

I have a very heavy metallic D20. I love the THUNK sound it makes when it lands on my wood table.  However, after the initial novelty I've tended to use it less than my regular dice; I don't know why.

RPGPundit
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Post by: RPGPundit on January 24, 2012, 12:14:57 PM
Quote from: HombreLoboDomesticado;507985I wonder where the idea came from that dice have to actually roll in order to randomize. I just shake them around in my hands and then put them down on the table surface without rolling, randomized. The supposed "accuracy" of the dice doesn't even matter that way.

In fact, the proper way to randomize dice rolls is with a dice cup, a la backgammon.

RPGPundit
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Post by: 3rik on January 24, 2012, 07:22:45 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit;508584In fact, the proper way to randomize dice rolls is with a dice cup, a la backgammon.

RPGPundit
I don't think it really matters if you use your hands instead of a dice cup. If it does, then there should also be gamescience dice cups available, for more random randomization without rolling.

The whole gamescience gimmick doesn't address any relevant issue, really.
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Post by: TristramEvans on January 24, 2012, 09:13:47 PM
I prefer a dice tower.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3220/2969342042_747d3510de.jpg)
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Post by: crkrueger on January 24, 2012, 10:07:17 PM
Ok, I'll probably never use a dice tower, but that is the best dice tower I've seen.  How much did that cost?
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Post by: Ancientgamer1970 on January 25, 2012, 12:35:10 AM
Quote from: CRKrueger;508822Ok, I'll probably never use a dice tower, but that is the best dice tower I've seen.  How much did that cost?


That thing is lame.  What I own is much better ;D



(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x474/Marinejock70/DSC01205.jpg)


(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x474/Marinejock70/DSC01207.jpg)
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Post by: TristramEvans on January 25, 2012, 12:50:54 AM
Quote from: Ancientgamer1970;508878That thing is lame.  What I own is much better ;D


That is very nice looking and looks incredibly unwieldy. No place for essential charts, and while the players can read the dice out to you, the DM can't use the dice tower themselves without moving? For $165? Couldn't you just by a cool lego castle for that much?
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Post by: Planet Algol on January 25, 2012, 03:01:34 AM
Absolutely hideous ;)
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Post by: jeff37923 on January 25, 2012, 03:45:12 AM
Quote from: RPGPundit;508584In fact, the proper way to randomize dice rolls is with a dice cup, a la backgammon.

RPGPundit

I didn't know before I looked, but you can find dice cups for sale on Amazon.com. I think I'll pick up a couple.
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Post by: _kent_ on January 25, 2012, 06:08:50 AM
Quote from: Philotomy Jurament;507922Because I have empathy for the misfortune of others.
If that is 'misfortune' have you invented new words for worse plight?
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Post by: 3rik on January 25, 2012, 06:34:12 AM
Quote from: TristramEvans;508797I prefer a dice tower. *snip*

Surely you need a GameScience dice tower for proper randomization. ;)

Quote from: Ancientgamer1970;508878That thing is lame.  What I own is much better ;D *snip*

What a ridiculous monstrosity. Are there scifi-appropriate versions of those as well?
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Post by: Werekoala on January 25, 2012, 09:08:37 AM
Quote from: Rincewind1;508035They don't, I've used metallic d6 a fair bit now.

Just don't HIT the table with them :P.

Metallic dice do more damage when you throw them than plastic ones. Fact.
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Post by: thedungeondelver on January 25, 2012, 09:20:57 AM
I have a giant brass d20 that weighs like 7 ounces; I'm afraid to use that sucker around my Dwarven Forge.  Take a chunk out, it will.
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Post by: Melan on January 25, 2012, 09:41:51 AM
Quote from: Planet Algol;508903Absolutely hideous ;)
Looks like standard gamer kitsch to me.
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Post by: Ancientgamer1970 on January 25, 2012, 11:04:24 AM
QuoteWhat a ridiculous monstrosity. Are there scifi-appropriate versions of those as well?

Not that I know off...  Yeah, it is kind of large...LOL

The owner of the game store did not intend to buy it and therefore I bought it so he could sleep better at night otherwise it would still be there...
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Post by: Ancientgamer1970 on January 25, 2012, 11:05:42 AM
Quote from: Melan;508975Looks like standard gamer kitsch to me.

It is what it is.  Since art is subjective to me, it did not make a difference because I did not get it for that purpose...
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Post by: Philotomy Jurament on January 25, 2012, 11:36:21 AM
Quote from: _kent_;508929If that is 'misfortune' have you invented new words for worse plight?
Give me a break.  (Free translation for you: fuck off.  I'm not into dictionary wars.)
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Post by: Philotomy Jurament on January 25, 2012, 11:39:25 AM
Quote from: Ancientgamer1970;509002It is what it is.  Since art is subjective to me, it did not make a difference because I did not get it for that purpose...
What purpose *did* you get it for?

EDIT:  Never mind.  I just re-read your post where you said you bought it so the game store owner could sleep better at night.  Quite the humanitarian gesture, I'd say.
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Post by: Ancientgamer1970 on January 25, 2012, 11:41:19 AM
QuoteWhat purpose *did* you get it for?

It will be the new DM screen for my D&D sessions at the gaming conventions...
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Post by: Philotomy Jurament on January 25, 2012, 11:47:06 AM
Quote from: Ancientgamer1970;509013It will be the new DM screen for my D&D sessions at the gaming conventions...
Despite my dislike for that screen, I could see it working pretty well for a convention setting: attracting attention, conversation, and even having the players responsible for reading off dice results generating some energy around the table.
Title: My Gamescience dice are shit.
Post by: Ancientgamer1970 on January 25, 2012, 11:50:50 AM
QuoteDespite my dislike for that screen, I could see it working pretty well for a convention setting: attracting attention, conversation, and even having the players responsible for reading off dice...

BINGO!!!   I feel that presentation is extremely important and presenting large and unusual things at a convention will attract people to the game.  The two dice towers that comprise this DM's Screen is kinda neat but the sale's price of 150.00 will scorch peoples wallet....LOL
Title: My Gamescience dice are shit.
Post by: Rincewind1 on January 25, 2012, 11:50:58 AM
Quote from: jeff37923;508909I didn't know before I looked, but you can find dice cups for sale on Amazon.com. I think I'll pick up a couple.

Or you can, y'know, use a normal plastic cup.
Title: My Gamescience dice are shit.
Post by: J Arcane on January 25, 2012, 11:53:22 AM
Could we maybe not post enormous fucking images that break the thread formatting?

This forum doesn't auto shrink images like newer vB does, and for those of us on mobile devices the effect of images like that is to make the thread almost unreadable.
Title: My Gamescience dice are shit.
Post by: jeff37923 on January 25, 2012, 12:14:54 PM
Quote from: Rincewind1;509018Or you can, y'know, use a normal plastic cup.

I'm afraid that I'd mistakenly try to drink my dice.    :D
Title: My Gamescience dice are shit.
Post by: Rincewind1 on January 25, 2012, 12:15:41 PM
Quote from: jeff37923;509028I'm afraid that I'd mistakenly try to drink my dice.    :D

You drink from a plastic cup?

Pleb.
Title: My Gamescience dice are shit.
Post by: jeff37923 on January 25, 2012, 12:17:03 PM
Quote from: Rincewind1;509030You drink from a plastic cup?

Pleb.

I prefer the term commoner.
Title: My Gamescience dice are shit.
Post by: Rincewind1 on January 25, 2012, 12:21:14 PM
Quote from: jeff37923;509031I prefer the term commoner.

So you enjoy being killed by Player Characters in need of a quick cash fix, eh?
Title: My Gamescience dice are shit.
Post by: jeff37923 on January 25, 2012, 12:26:53 PM
Quote from: Rincewind1;509034So you enjoy being killed by Player Characters in need of a quick cash fix, eh?

Nope. If I am to be killed as a commoner, I prefer to be killed by a housecat.
Title: My Gamescience dice are shit.
Post by: thedungeondelver on January 25, 2012, 12:27:57 PM
Quote from: jeff37923;509037Nope. If I am to be killed as a commoner, I prefer to be killed by a housecat.

I want to die in mortal combat with a giant rat, or perhaps a gas spore!
Title: My Gamescience dice are shit.
Post by: Rincewind1 on January 25, 2012, 12:31:41 PM
Quote from: jeff37923;509037Nope. If I am to be killed as a commoner, I prefer to be killed by a housecat.

Quote from: thedungeondelver;509040I want to die in mortal combat with a giant rat, or perhaps a gas spore!

Such lowly ambitions. Though I guess right now I should exercise more, because I have a rather bad modifier to Sudden Heart Attack table.
Title: My Gamescience dice are shit.
Post by: jeff37923 on January 25, 2012, 12:34:31 PM
Quote from: Rincewind1;509042Such lowly ambitions.

You have not met my housecats.
Title: My Gamescience dice are shit.
Post by: Rincewind1 on January 25, 2012, 12:39:12 PM
Quote from: jeff37923;509044You have not met my housecats.

Unless we're talking

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_qEyew0gVMFA/TTHal2F_9fI/AAAAAAAAAhM/vWwL7u7-bSI/s1600/The-Royal-Bengal-Tiger.jpg)

I stand by my words.

Just do what I did, and you can have a Thief level without even leaving your house!

I can't stop staring at those cute tigers now. What hath I done.
Title: My Gamescience dice are shit.
Post by: jeff37923 on January 25, 2012, 12:52:56 PM
(Actually, I may be tempting fate by joking about that today. I am about to go volunteer at the local animal shelter once I get off the computer and they have brought in some feral cats that need to be socialized so that they can be adopted if possible.)
Title: My Gamescience dice are shit.
Post by: Rincewind1 on January 25, 2012, 12:58:34 PM
Quote from: jeff37923;509052(Actually, I may be tempting fate by joking about that today. I am about to go volunteer at the local animal shelter once I get off the computer and they have brought in some feral cats that need to be socialized so that they can be adopted if possible.)

Have fun :).
Title: My Gamescience dice are shit.
Post by: crkrueger on January 25, 2012, 01:01:33 PM
Quote from: jeff37923;509052I am about to go volunteer at the local animal shelter once I get off the computer and they have brought in some feral cats that need to be socialized so that they can be adopted if possible.)

You poor bastard.  :D
Title: My Gamescience dice are shit.
Post by: _kent_ on January 25, 2012, 01:28:37 PM
Quote from: Philotomy Jurament;509008Give me a break.  (Free translation for you: fuck off.  I'm not into dictionary wars.)
Free translations are notoriously imprecise. For 2¢ 'Give me a break' translates as 'Im sorry'.

Why is it that, without exception, frequenters of the K&KA are assholes.
Title: My Gamescience dice are shit.
Post by: Rincewind1 on January 25, 2012, 01:31:40 PM
Quote from: _kent_;509063Free translations are notoriously imprecise. For 2¢ 'Give me a break' translates as 'Im sorry'.

Why is it that, without exception, frequenters of the K&KA are assholes.

Ahem.
Quote from: Fucking BibleWhy do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?
Title: My Gamescience dice are shit.
Post by: _kent_ on January 25, 2012, 01:48:47 PM
Quote from: Rincewind1;509066Fucking Bible.
You appear to have discredited your own source, not that hand me down cliches of desert tinkers need much discrediting. Do you tie your own shoe laces together and stuff like that too?
Title: My Gamescience dice are shit.
Post by: One Horse Town on January 25, 2012, 01:51:44 PM
Sheesh, those gamescience dice, eh?
Title: My Gamescience dice are shit.
Post by: Rincewind1 on January 25, 2012, 01:51:59 PM
Quote from: _kent_;509073You appear to have discredited your own source, not that hand me down cliches of desert tinkers need much discrediting. Do you tie your own shoe laces together and stuff like that too?

I see that the concept of exclamationm the rhetoric figure, is alien to you. How cute that you claim knowledge of any language, then. And of course, the mandatory jab at the Bible - have you even read it, or just bashing it since it's cool nowadays, and your knowledge consists of just the outdated silly stuff from Leviticus? Because yeah, message of loving your brother - terrible were those desert bastards indeed.

As some would say - gg no re.


Quote from: One Horse Town;509074Sheesh, those gamescience dice, eh?

Gamescience Dice - Giving Nerds Another Reason To Fight since...

since whenever they were created.
Title: My Gamescience dice are shit.
Post by: Aos on January 25, 2012, 01:59:24 PM
Quote from: One Horse Town;509074Sheesh, those gamescience dice, eh?

Better that your Gamescience be shit than your shit be Gamescience dice.

Also, I like how all of our trolls clump together like sticky sweat sealed lovers.
Title: My Gamescience dice are shit.
Post by: Philotomy Jurament on January 25, 2012, 02:08:03 PM
Pinky, the Very Loving Cat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY3_1pV4bgc
Title: My Gamescience dice are shit.
Post by: _kent_ on January 25, 2012, 02:34:47 PM
Quote from: Rincewind1;509075just bashing it since it's cool nowadays

By nowadays you mean hundreds of years right? The devout are more telling than the scribbles.

Quote from: Philotomy Jurament;509080Pinky, the Very Loving Cat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY3_1pV4bgc

:)

Ive had my fun and that's all that matters.
Title: My Gamescience dice are shit.
Post by: Planet Algol on January 25, 2012, 02:37:04 PM
Quote from: Melan;508975Looks like standard gamer kitsch to me.
I'm of the opinion that the two are synonymous.
Title: My Gamescience dice are shit.
Post by: Planet Algol on January 25, 2012, 02:38:42 PM
Quote from: jeff37923;509052(Actually, I may be tempting fate by joking about that today. I am about to go volunteer at the local animal shelter once I get off the computer and they have brought in some feral cats that need to be socialized so that they can be adopted if possible.)

Just stop by a hardware store and get a pair of welding gloves.
Title: My Gamescience dice are shit.
Post by: Rincewind1 on January 25, 2012, 02:39:22 PM
Quote from: Planet Algol;509101Just stop by a hardware store and get a pair of welding gloves.

And a welding mask, while he's at it.

Or take out your LARPing chainmail. ;)
Title: My Gamescience dice are shit.
Post by: Ladybird on January 25, 2012, 04:00:45 PM
Quote from: Rincewind1;509102And a welding mask, while he's at it.

Or take out your LARPing chainmail. ;)

Masks are only for paid, professional GM's.
Title: My Gamescience dice are shit.
Post by: 3rik on January 25, 2012, 06:55:01 PM
Quote from: Philotomy Jurament;509012What purpose *did* you get it for?

EDIT:  Never mind.  I just re-read your post where you said you bought it so the game store owner could sleep better at night.  Quite the humanitarian gesture, I'd say.
I'd even go so far as to call it altruistic. ;)

Quote from: jeff37923;509028I'm afraid that I'd mistakenly try to drink my dice.    :D
Quote from: Aos;509076Better that your Gamescience be shit than your shit be Gamescience dice.(...)
The human dice tower. :rotfl:

Quote from: Philotomy Jurament;509080Pinky, the Very Loving Cat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY3_1pV4bgc
Quite adorable.
Title: My Gamescience dice are shit.
Post by: One Horse Town on January 25, 2012, 07:08:44 PM
Don't say i didn't warn you.

Closed.