Quote from: Doom;573360Not "from" D&D? Do you mean not "in" D&D?

I mean, dragon is the most classic fantasy monster with origins far outside of D&D.

I thought I was pretty clear in the OP: From a game system or setting not originally made for D&D, and not just from some literary or mythological source.

So yes, you could say "dragon", but which one, from which non-D&D game or setting?

RPGPundit

Quote from: Skywalker;574423Grey Hoods from Dragon Warriors.

Oh yeah! Dragon Warriors has its share of memorable monsters. The Grey Hoods are cool, but I'm partial to the Blue Men myself. Undead Viking riddlers FTW.

Actually, Rimfax would be the iconic Dragon Warriors monster, now I think about it.


"He appears as a skeletal horse, wreathed in a seething mass of serpents, reeking of rottenness and death."

Personal choice: Blue Undead from Morrow Project.

Quote from: RPGPundit;574863I thought I was pretty clear in the OP: From a game system or setting not originally made for D&D, and not just from some literary or mythological source.

So yes, you could say "dragon", but which one, from which non-D&D game or setting?

RPGPundit

My bad, now I get it.

WarhammerFRP it's the skaven. The dragon-ogres might be more unique, but they also just don't have the iconic strength for me.

RQ? I'll can accept Broo, but nothing in RQ really stands out for me. The ducks are unique, but I couldn't tell you that much about 'em other than "FRP with ducks? Must be RQ" It really seems like the cults are the standout, not the monsters.

M:TG it's goblins. That ain't no ordinary pile of...you know.

PF goblins are different from M:TG goblins, but iconic in their own way, just a little bit more comical and childish than goblins elsewhere, but unique for all that.

But what about D&D? There are like 4 very distinct versions...what monster is most iconic for each?

Old D&D? Orcs. "Surface dwellers!"

AD&D? Drow, perhaps, seems every AD&D player shudders at drow, all those powers and freakin' poison on everything AND freakin' rotting magic items.

3e? That probably was the dragon edition, where they didn't just have names, the DM had to devote a day to stat one up properly.

4e? I played it, but open to suggestions, so little really had much depth for me, but the system also died faster than the others.

Quote from: Doom;5750034e? I played it, but open to suggestions, so little really had much depth for me, but the system also died faster than the others.

My first choice would be dragons. 4e was the first edition of D&D where a 1st level PC would meet both halves of the RPGs namesake in their very first adventure.

After that, I would hazard a guess at either Dragonborn (though technically a PC race) or Angels and Archons, which were both a reflection on the change of the cosmology and prevalent at Paragon and Epic Tier.

For 3e, my choice would actually have been Kobolds. Meepo was a huge celebrity for the edition and 3e was the first edition you could really build up the common Kobold into something more with the mechanics alone.

My favorite monster not Dnd are Maraunds from Mage the Ascension and Banishers from Mage the Awakening. They are human, so human and so impossibly broken on a level no human could ever fathom. If I have to stay in Dnd land it would be Wolfen.  Smart as humans, fucked up like humans, and on a mission, one that's entirely human. Seems I prefer a particular theme.....

Quote from: Doom;575003My bad, now I get it.

WarhammerFRP it's the skaven. The dragon-ogres might be more unique, but they also just don't have the iconic strength for me.

RQ? I'll can accept Broo, but nothing in RQ really stands out for me. The ducks are unique, but I couldn't tell you that much about 'em other than "FRP with ducks? Must be RQ" It really seems like the cults are the standout, not the monsters.

M:TG it's goblins. That ain't no ordinary pile of...you know.

PF goblins are different from M:TG goblins, but iconic in their own way, just a little bit more comical and childish than goblins elsewhere, but unique for all that.

But what about D&D? There are like 4 very distinct versions...what monster is most iconic for each?

Old D&D? Orcs. "Surface dwellers!"

AD&D? Drow, perhaps, seems every AD&D player shudders at drow, all those powers and freakin' poison on everything AND freakin' rotting magic items.

3e? That probably was the dragon edition, where they didn't just have names, the DM had to devote a day to stat one up properly.

4e? I played it, but open to suggestions, so little really had much depth for me, but the system also died faster than the others.

I might be wrong, but you did quote Pundit and say you "got it," and then posted monsters from DnD. So that makes me think you didn't get it at all.

Oh, and I'll throw in Xiticix from Rifts.

Quote from: everloss;575064I might be wrong, but you did quote Pundit and say you "got it," and then posted monsters from DnD. So that makes me think you didn't get it at all.

Oh, and I'll throw in Xiticix from Rifts.

I was totally thinking of them but I can't spell and I think dogs are more scary then insects.  What!?! I like cats get it? And prefer horror over science. Not sure if that was clear?

Fimir, from early Warhammer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fimir

Quote from: The Butcher;574949Oh yeah! Dragon Warriors has its share of memorable monsters. The Grey Hoods are cool, but I'm partial to the Blue Men myself. Undead Viking riddlers FTW.

Blue men are great! I also liked the Battlemaster (IIRC?), a giant that you could summon to fight for you... but the issue was there was only one Battlemaster ever, and if two people were unwise enough to summon it against each other, the Battlemasters would merge and dispense large scale equal opportunity ass kickings.

Other personal favorites include Zephyr Hounds and Black Reavers from Rolemaster, although people might know them better from Angband.

Quote from: Broken-Serenity;574444I agree of the monsters i read about in the MRQ2 monster collesium book the Broo seemed the most unique, though they do sorta reseble beastmen from warhammer so im not sure how unique they really are.

You have to realise that the Broo came first in RuneQuest in 1978.
GW were influenced by RQ and StormBringer in the development of Warhammer.

Quote from: Marleycat;575070I was totally thinking of them but I can't spell and I think dogs are more scary then insects.  What!?! I like cats get it? And prefer horror over science. Not sure if that was clear?

Good call - Shadowrun's Toxic and Bug spirits. They're great perversions of the "Nature is good!" theme that SR looks at sometimes.

Magic the gathering has some awesome monsters.

Quote from: everloss;575064I might be wrong, but you did quote Pundit and say you "got it," and then posted monsters from DnD. So that makes me think you didn't get it at all.

Oh, and I'll throw in Xiticix from Rifts.

I extended the question....jeez. To clarify for you, yes, Pundit was asking outside of D&D, but it occured to me that different editions of D&D had their own icons. 'D&D' means many things to many people, "Which D&D?" is not an unusual question.

So, I was curious what other people thought about the idea of different versions of D&D having different iconic monsters. Turns out, it's ok for a thread to go a little off topic. Read around the site a bit, and you'll see it's been known to happen from time to time.

Jeez.