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Monte Cook's Second Kickstarter is Up

Started by JRT, October 16, 2013, 11:35:31 AM

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Maese Mateo

I backed this at the $25 tier (that is, core PDF only). $50 for the digital pack is too much for me, but maybe if the KS unlocks a lot of digital stretch goals I may consider it.

The setting looks like a cross between Planescape and Fringe (they even say it on the description), which may or may not be something that appeals to people (It does appeal to me.. a lot).

The Numenera system is a very cool one, so I'm sure that system-wise the game is going to be solid.
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Brad

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Emperor Norton

I definitely want to back it, I'm a huge fan of the Numenera mechanics and the setting of The Strange sounds cool too, but man my money is tight right now. (my entertainment budget got eaten up by getting into the Lord of the Rings LCG recently... and then going on a spending spree to buy half of the existing sets).

I'll probably drop in on it late after my next paycheck. (Monthly paychecks are both really nice, and really annoying.)

The Traveller

Quote from: Ben Rogers;700118Monte Cook posted something about it yesterday on his Facebook and through Kickstarter -- that was the first I heard of it.
That's insane. So mostly by sheer force of reputation he decided to launch an entirely new line of games and whipped up sixty grand in the first day. Is this just social media in action or is he actually doing some heavy marketing elsewhere?
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Emperor Norton

I think right now, Monte Cook might be the closest thing RPGs have to a rock star.

artikid

Quote from: Emperor Norton;700216I think right now, Monte Cook might be the closest thing RPGs have to a rock star.

I think you might be right...

Ladybird

Quote from: JRT;700144Actually they are being pretty responsible for the shipping costs.  Kickstarter allows international orders without having a system to easilly make adjustments based on location like a store.  I hear a lot of kickstarters have had profits eaten by too many international backers.

Those pesky non-Americans, daring to buy product!

I've got no objections to being charged for shipping, because it's bloody expensive (Although it would be appreciated if the American firms could work out some distribution point in Europe and maybe other major regions, to make it easier for those customers...). But I object to companies undercharging and then complaining that they lost money. Yeah, no shit! You sold a service for less than the cost!

I'd much rather see kickstarting firms say "we are going to send you an X mm by Y xx by Z mm box weighing AA kg, so that's how much you need to add to your pledge to get it to you, and here's a link to USPS if you don't believe us".

What annoys me about this is the offloading of effort into researching shipping onto the customers. I can also see it being a logistical nightmare, unless they've got a comprehensive system in place to handle it.

Take, say, Call of Cthulhu 7. I'm getting the hardback set, with all the extra STUFF in there. No way that is going to cost only $25ish to ship to me, because that's going to be a deep and heavy box. But Chaosium can't suddenly turn around and complain about it! That's what they told me to pay, so I did. If they wanted me to pay something else, they should have said.
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Ladybird

Quote from: Ben Rogers;700167You may think that's excessive, but one book to Australia was $67 and one to Canada was $35 and one to UK was $45.

I'm also looking for POD printers in those locations where I can "drop-print" a copy to them locally to save money.  Still haven't found those, yet.

DTRPG uses Lightning Source in the UK, and they print good books. Not sure about Lulu, or anywhere else. Dunno if they'll do the job for you, but Crawford used DTRPG for fulfilling the Spears kickstarter.
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Warthur

Not backing because I'm not really convinced it makes sense to make this a separate product as opposed to a supplement for Numenera. After all, if Numenera is Monte's D&D by other means and this is his Planescape by other means...
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fellowhoodlum

Ditto on all the shipping complaints.

Going to just get the PDFs this time. Save on shipping and being trolled by GenConners getting the book first.

JamesV

Quote from: Warthur;700243Not backing because I'm not really convinced it makes sense to make this a separate product as opposed to a supplement for Numenera. After all, if Numenera is Monte's D&D by other means and this is his Planescape by other means...

Then Monte's been spending a heck of a lot of time looking at Fantasy Flight's RPG model?
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Maese Mateo

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Quote from: JamesV;700395Then Monte's been spending a heck of a lot of time looking at Fantasy Flight's RPG model?
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Not the same thing. All Warhammer 40k games share the same setting, while (as far as we know) there is no relation between Numenera and The Strange other than the fact they share the same system.

Personally, I'm very happy that Monte made this a whole new line rather than a supplement for Numenera. I don't like to be forced to buy an extra book just to be able to play the game I want (one of the reasons I never got into NWoD, the lack of stand alone cores). If The Strange had been a supplement for Numenera, I'd had never back it.

That said, I do understand why someone who already owns Numenera would have prefer it as a supplement, but market-wise I think it was the right choice.
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JeremyR

$60 for a full cover hardcover with shipping isn't bad.  Pretty much every Frog God KS is $100+ for a hardcover.


I really don't understand what has happened to the price of international shipping this last ten years. It's gotten insane. Way, way more than the cost of fuel prices.

Rincewind1

Quote from: JeremyR;700454$60 for a full cover hardcover with shipping isn't bad.  Pretty much every Frog God KS is $100+ for a hardcover.


I really don't understand what has happened to the price of international shipping this last ten years. It's gotten insane. Way, way more than the cost of fuel prices.

Dollar inflation?
Furthermore, I consider that  This is Why We Don\'t Like You thread should be closed

The Traveller

Quote from: JeremyR;700454I really don't understand what has happened to the price of international shipping this last ten years. It's gotten insane. Way, way more than the cost of fuel prices.
And yet I can still order things from China at zero shipping cost, albeit a bit more slowly.
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