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Title: Mini-six 2nd edition coming this year
Post by: weirdguy564 on January 05, 2023, 10:44:38 AM
So "Bear the Forever DM" had a livestream with two RPG writers, including one of the two writers for Mini-Six Bare Bones Edition. 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f8QxcBxAOUE&t=3787s (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f8QxcBxAOUE&t=3787s)

The writer, Ray Nolan, said he thinks his 2nd edition will be ready sometime this year. Mainly the new version will add GM advice, and multiple variants of magic systems.  This includes possibly using a somewhat famous system called Mini-six Simpler Magic System that a fan created for his own game as house rules. 

I won't link to that simple magic thread.  It's on RPG.Net, and I am not a fan of that site's left wing only stance on everything, and disrespect of free speech rights. 

For me I was contemplating writing my own supplement book of magic systems to fix Mini-six issues I have, but I guess I don't have to now?
Title: Re: Mini-six 2nd edition coming this year
Post by: Shipyard Locked on January 05, 2023, 03:57:52 PM
Good news. I always liked Mini-Six, and OpenD6 in general is looking increasingly attractive in light of what WotC may or may not be doing to the OGL.
Title: Re: Mini-six 2nd edition coming this year
Post by: Steve Dubya on January 05, 2023, 04:19:30 PM
Quote from: weirdguy564 on January 05, 2023, 10:44:38 AMThis includes possibly using a somewhat famous system called Mini-six Simpler Magic System that a fan created for his own game as house rules. 

I won't link to that simple magic thread.  It's on RPG.Net, and I am not a fan of that site's left wing only stance on everything, and disrespect of free speech rights.
I made up a single-page distillation to slip into my hardcopy some years back.
Title: Re: Mini-six 2nd edition coming this year
Post by: S'mon on January 05, 2023, 05:13:51 PM
Sounds interesting, but I have a bunch of 1e Mini Six prints I bought when they were £2 each. Still will give this a look for ideas I'm sure.
Title: Re: Mini-six 2nd edition coming this year
Post by: Jam The MF on January 05, 2023, 09:12:24 PM
Yes.  More d6 based RPGs, please.
Title: Re: Mini-six 2nd edition coming this year
Post by: JeremyR on January 05, 2023, 11:03:30 PM
Quote from: Shipyard Locked on January 05, 2023, 03:57:52 PM
Good news. I always liked Mini-Six, and OpenD6 in general is looking increasingly attractive in light of what WotC may or may not be doing to the OGL.

Yeah, but I was under the impression that D6 was released under the OGL, even though it didn't use anything from the 3.x SRD, sorta like Mongoose Traveller
Title: Re: Mini-six 2nd edition coming this year
Post by: Shipyard Locked on January 06, 2023, 06:58:18 AM
Quote from: JeremyR on January 05, 2023, 11:03:30 PM
Yeah, but I was under the impression that D6 was released under the OGL, even though it didn't use anything from the 3.x SRD, sorta like Mongoose Traveller

Yeah, I realized that while reading on another forum.

Damn it.
Title: Re: Mini-six 2nd edition coming this year
Post by: Vile Traveller on January 06, 2023, 07:15:02 AM
The OGL's tentacles are long and many, and sometimes almost invisible. But, like a jellyfish, they still sting.
Title: Re: Mini-six 2nd edition coming this year
Post by: Shipyard Locked on January 06, 2023, 10:00:00 AM
So I just saw in a twitter screenshot that the D6 system is OGL but OpenD6 is Creative Commons... what the heck is this arcane distinction, is it true, and does it make OpenD6 irrevocably and perpetually safe?
Title: Re: Mini-six 2nd edition coming this year
Post by: weirdguy564 on January 07, 2023, 01:26:20 AM
Well.....shit.

I didn't even realize it was OGL material, but sure as taxes and rain, the last page is the OGL license.

Now, to divorce yourself from the OGL should be pretty easy here.  The game isn't even based on any D&D material.  Its a totally different game.

Why there is an OGL statement on the last page is beyond me.  That's just weird.
Title: Re: Mini-six 2nd edition coming this year
Post by: S'mon on January 07, 2023, 04:22:33 AM
Quote from: weirdguy564 on January 07, 2023, 01:26:20 AM
Well.....shit.

I didn't even realize it was OGL material, but sure as taxes and rain, the last page is the OGL license.

Now, to divorce yourself from the OGL should be pretty easy here.  The game isn't even based on any D&D material.  Its a totally different game.

Why there is an OGL statement on the last page is beyond me.  That's just weird.

There are a bunch of games based on Mini Six, I think I bought all of them! Mini Six was intended to be an open game system others could use, and the OGL was a good way to do that.
Title: Re: Mini-six 2nd edition coming this year
Post by: Vile Traveller on January 07, 2023, 05:31:53 AM
Mini Six just needs to switch to a different licence, like one of the CCs. And make sure there's no legacy text from any D&D SRDs in there.
Title: Re: Mini-six 2nd edition coming this year
Post by: Slipshot762 on January 07, 2023, 06:05:06 AM
I think you will be fine with it as is wrt ogl and D6/mini-six. I've at times considered making a campaign setting for D6 fantasy with all custom rules options I can contrive...what gives me pause is that people might like it and then my favorite game will attract danger hair retards and anger me.
Title: Re: Mini-six 2nd edition coming this year
Post by: Shipyard Locked on January 07, 2023, 06:47:48 AM
The writer of Mini-six posted this on his site yesterday and I want to spread it around because he asks a very important question - who owns OpenD6 right now?

http://www.antipaladingames.com/2023/01/who-owns-opend6.html
Title: Re: Mini-six 2nd edition coming this year
Post by: Slipshot762 on January 07, 2023, 07:21:47 AM
As far as D6 adventure/space/fantasy i'm gonna say no one owns it, as it is all 100% rules/mechanics and no setting or flavor, in fact these are as neutral and generic as can be. The "openD6" logo or the "D6 system" logo would be effectively all they own if mechanics cannot be copyrighted.

Also it is my religion, D6 Fantasy, I am the founder and high priest of this religion, and my activities are 1st amendment protected. fight me you sidewalk sissies.
Title: Re: Mini-six 2nd edition coming this year
Post by: GeekyBugle on January 07, 2023, 08:00:16 AM
Quote from: weirdguy564 on January 07, 2023, 01:26:20 AM
Well.....shit.

I didn't even realize it was OGL material, but sure as taxes and rain, the last page is the OGL license.

Now, to divorce yourself from the OGL should be pretty easy here.  The game isn't even based on any D&D material.  Its a totally different game.

Why there is an OGL statement on the last page is beyond me.  That's just weird.

Nope, both are under the OGL, but OpenD6 Core, Fantasy, Vadecum, Fantasy locations, Fantasy creatures, Adventure core, creatures, locations, Aliens 1, Space core, space ships, have no D&D SRD on them. At least that's what the section 15 says.

Therefore I would imagine that mini six doesn't either.
Title: Re: Mini-six 2nd edition coming this year
Post by: S'mon on January 07, 2023, 08:15:17 AM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on January 07, 2023, 08:00:16 AM
Quote from: weirdguy564 on January 07, 2023, 01:26:20 AM
Well.....shit.

I didn't even realize it was OGL material, but sure as taxes and rain, the last page is the OGL license.

Now, to divorce yourself from the OGL should be pretty easy here.  The game isn't even based on any D&D material.  Its a totally different game.

Why there is an OGL statement on the last page is beyond me.  That's just weird.

Nope, both are under the OGL, but OpenD6 Core, Fantasy, Vadecum, Fantasy locations, Fantasy creatures, Adventure core, creatures, locations, Aliens 1, Space core, space ships, have no D&D SRD on them. At least that's what the section 15 says.

Therefore I would imagine that mini six doesn't either.

Mini Six Bare Bones has the OGL on page 36. It was intended to be an open game licence to let others create Mini Six material, like I said. Mini Six contains nothing from any WoTC SRD.