Quote from: Crusader X on September 07, 2021, 04:46:22 PM

Quote from: Torque2100 on September 07, 2021, 02:25:13 PM
I know you don't want to hear this but this forum came out of this kerfuffle smelling like a cow pasture.

Twitter absolutely clowned on you and proclaiming you won to your fans while everyone else can see you being Corncobbed is just embarrassing.

You guys got roasted. Deal with it.

Do you actually believe that people here were looking for approval and acceptance from woke Twitter?  Seriously?

No, but I think a few edgelords were looking to "offend" some "SJWs" or score points in the culture war. And when they didn't, they just... pretended they did. Which is... bizarre to watch. Funny, but bizarre.

Torque2100 is right. Hell, even Pundit ally Grim Jim said you all were being mocked. I'm sure there have been a few feathers ruffled, but you'd never be able to compile as many screenshots of angry lefties as I did of those clowning you earlier in this thread. And that wasn't NEARLY all of them. I know, you're trying to convince everyone they were "REALLY angry, serious, you guys, we really got them!" But ain't nobody buying that shit except y'all, and I'm not even sure all of YOU believe it.

Also, maybe if certain creators that have been mentioned have expressed support for your ideas privately on their Facebook, that's because they didn't want it blasted all over the internet. Good job blabbing, ya fuckin' dildos. Maybe edit that shit until you have someone's permission to share it, huh?

Ooops double post

Quote from: Hopladamus on September 07, 2021, 01:12:50 PM
Don't forget to add Tenkar's Tavern Gamen to the Green list. Tenkar has always been fair to us.

I though you guys were mad at Tenkar for getting a product removed from drivethru, becase it had "ACAB" in it somewhere. "Freeze Peach", remember? Or is it only Anti-racist attitudes that get someone on the "Red" list?

https://www.therpgsite.com/pen-paper-roleplaying-games-rpgs-discussion/acab-erik-karen-tavern-gets-obs-module-taken-down/

Quote from: Tubesock Army on September 07, 2021, 09:25:29 PM

Quote from: Crusader X on September 07, 2021, 04:46:22 PM

Quote from: Torque2100 on September 07, 2021, 02:25:13 PM
I know you don't want to hear this but this forum came out of this kerfuffle smelling like a cow pasture.

Twitter absolutely clowned on you and proclaiming you won to your fans while everyone else can see you being Corncobbed is just embarrassing.

You guys got roasted. Deal with it.

Do you actually believe that people here were looking for approval and acceptance from woke Twitter?  Seriously?

No, but I think a few edgelords were looking to "offend" some "SJWs" or score points in the culture war. And when they didn't, they just... pretended they did. Which is... bizarre to watch. Funny, but bizarre.

Torque2100 is right. Hell, even Pundit ally Grim Jim said you all were being mocked. I'm sure there have been a few feathers ruffled, but you'd never be able to compile as many screenshots of angry lefties as I did of those clowning you earlier in this thread. And that wasn't NEARLY all of them. I know, you're trying to convince everyone they were "REALLY angry, serious, you guys, we really got them!" But ain't nobody buying that shit except y'all, and I'm not even sure all of YOU believe it.

Also, maybe if certain creators that have been mentioned have expressed support for your ideas privately on their Facebook, that's because they didn't want it blasted all over the internet. Good job blabbing, ya fuckin' dildos. Maybe edit that shit until you have someone's permission to share it, huh?

Everything I shared on that list was made public, I've shared nothing that was asked not to be shared or shared on a private Facebook. As to why I made it I stated multiple times in this thread alone, and I saw the same grim Jim video you did. He did bring up a good point about it being more of a "good boy" list. I'm weighing that against the unintended side effect of fighting fire with fire.

I really wish I knew about some of this before buying several rpgs. Like 5e which was great when it first came out and now I have a pile of books collecting dust because I don't like the new products for just being shit and watching some of my favorite adventures and game worlds being turned to shit. Now it feels like I have an incomplete game.

Quote from: Tubesock Army on September 07, 2021, 09:25:29 PM

Quote from: Crusader X on September 07, 2021, 04:46:22 PM

Quote from: Torque2100 on September 07, 2021, 02:25:13 PM
I know you don't want to hear this but this forum came out of this kerfuffle smelling like a cow pasture.

Twitter absolutely clowned on you and proclaiming you won to your fans while everyone else can see you being Corncobbed is just embarrassing.

You guys got roasted. Deal with it.

Do you actually believe that people here were looking for approval and acceptance from woke Twitter?  Seriously?

No, but I think a few edgelords were looking to "offend" some "SJWs" or score points in the culture war. And when they didn't, they just... pretended they did. Which is... bizarre to watch. Funny, but bizarre.

Torque2100 is right. Hell, even Pundit ally Grim Jim said you all were being mocked. I'm sure there have been a few feathers ruffled, but you'd never be able to compile as many screenshots of angry lefties as I did of those clowning you earlier in this thread. And that wasn't NEARLY all of them. I know, you're trying to convince everyone they were "REALLY angry, serious, you guys, we really got them!" But ain't nobody buying that shit except y'all, and I'm not even sure all of YOU believe it.

Also, maybe if certain creators that have been mentioned have expressed support for your ideas privately on their Facebook, that's because they didn't want it blasted all over the internet. Good job blabbing, ya fuckin' dildos. Maybe edit that shit until you have someone's permission to share it, huh?

Nobody cares if they were "clowning." Their opinion means nothing. And yes this list is a "good boy list" of companies who don't hate us. SJWs can complain all they want that were using their tactics against them but at some point enough is enough. We needed to start gatekeeping our hobbies years ago.

Quote from: ArtemisWyrm on September 07, 2021, 09:44:43 PM
We needed to start gatekeeping our hobbies years ago.

Damn straight. No A-holes allowed at my table.

The list is information on what merchants have done or said. It's sunlight. People who see it can and will do what they wish with that information. Pretending it's a hypocrisy or that the motives behind it are hypocritical is silly. Were you jumping on One Book shelf when they got Grim Jim's Gamergate card game thrown off because Evil Hat had a hissy fit and Jim had to put it on GumRoad ? Yes? No?

No one has to feel shame and be quiet the minute some red faced doofus with a head full of doublespeak says that "ACAB is an anti-racist attitude" and that someone on the list tried to squelch it so the whole house of cards is obligated to immediately collapse because the ineffective laughingstock that does not matter must go away. It's like dogs barking at a tree for hours and then telling me that they don't care about the tree at all but could I chop it down or set it on fire all the same, please?

I'm not Tenkar so I can't answer for him. The list is about woke businesses. Does Tenkar even sell anything? I have no idea. I am on his discord and I seem to have him as a contact on MEWE and that's about all I know. But do I see this as the achilles heel of the list? Are you fucking kidding me?  I don't even care. The list is what the list is about. If some part of it is wrong it can be corrected with citation.

It's a list of people who make and sell things who have said and done things and no different than any other such list.

Quote from: Tubesock Army on September 07, 2021, 09:25:29 PM

Torque2100 is right. Hell, even Pundit ally Grim Jim said you all were being mocked. I'm sure there have been a few feathers ruffled, but you'd never be able to compile as many screenshots of angry lefties as I did of those clowning you earlier in this thread. And that wasn't NEARLY all of them. I know, you're trying to convince everyone they were "REALLY angry, serious, you guys, we really got them!" But ain't nobody buying that shit except y'all, and I'm not even sure all of YOU believe it.

You have got more examples from clown world and you're been holding out on us?

Dude, I thought we were friends! 

Quote from: Ocule on September 07, 2021, 09:40:02 PM


Everything I shared on that list was made public, I've shared nothing that was asked not to be shared or shared on a private Facebook.

Well then I must not be referring to you, eh?

Quote from: Tubesock Army on September 07, 2021, 09:53:58 PM

Quote from: Ocule on September 07, 2021, 09:40:02 PM


Everything I shared on that list was made public, I've shared nothing that was asked not to be shared or shared on a private Facebook.

Well then I must not be referring to you, eh?

That or you were being disingenuous considering this is his thread and what the topic of this discussion has been.

People and bots mocking you on twitter because they got brigaded into it is of no concern really. I wouldn't take any of it seriously. Tubesock thinks it's the most important thing and who gives a shit? If he wants their so called "Ms. Marvel and Moon Girl are the best" respect then he can buy 1000 copies of Thirsty Sword lesbians for goody clout and donate them to a city library. These are the same idiots who claimed the Last Jedi was amazing and then got quiet when the realized that that ship had sailed and come back painted as a different ship.  If this is a huge laughing stock that no one supports then it wouldn't get any response but the SJW social media nutjob corps has already failed that test and that's good enough for me to say it was seen and felt and not ignored as an irrelevancy.

Quote from: PonchoGoblin on September 07, 2021, 01:16:16 PM
I'm not saying Monte Cook himself's work isn't bad (I too quite like Numenera) nor does it mean you need to stop supporting him or his company if you so please. The list is a suggestion to give thought about where your money goes once you part with it. Likewise, as far as Monte Cook is concerned, while he hasn't shown much woke, Shanna Germain VERY much is and she has a decently large say in the company and it's direction. Likewise, look at Shanna's work instead, and it is all very much done through a political lense.

As for the RPG horror stories sub, there is a reason why mods are starting to call people out more for fake stories.

As for evil hat, that's what happens when politics consume your company. Shame too, I was one of the early adopters of Fate Core and for a time quite liked it (although I've moved on to more crunchy systems since, and stopped trying to cram everything into a generic system)

On Monte Cooke, fair enough.  One of the interesting things about those RPG Horror Stories is reading the comments of how people would handle the same shitty situation.  On this one I just read, this half-orc's father dies and so he attends his elven father's funeral.  During the funeral, the wizard on their team sees the half-orc's mother (who is an orc) and blows her away with a fireball.  It derailed/ended the whole game for shits and giggles I guess.

One of the comments had mentioned being able to throw out a 'safe word' when the wizard was casting the fireball, or basically what I would call a red flag penalty.  Why their DM let all of this happen is anybody's guess.  If it were my game, I'd have made the wizard an NPC villain, have his fireball miss, and then the wizard would flee, with guards going after him, and the player would have to reroll a new PC.  There is just no point in playing out these idiotic scenes.

- rando

Quote from: ArtemisWyrm on September 07, 2021, 09:55:51 PM

Quote from: Tubesock Army on September 07, 2021, 09:53:58 PM

Quote from: Ocule on September 07, 2021, 09:40:02 PM


Everything I shared on that list was made public, I've shared nothing that was asked not to be shared or shared on a private Facebook.

Well then I must not be referring to you, eh?

That or you were being disingenuous considering this is his thread and what the topic of this discussion has been.

Your lack of reading comprehension =/= someone being "disingenuous". Swing and a miss.

Quote from: palaeomerus on September 07, 2021, 09:58:03 PM
People and bots mocking you on twitter because they got brigaded into it is of no concern really. I wouldn't take any of it seriously. Tubesock thinks it's the most important thing and who gives a shit? If he wants their so called "Ms. Marvel and Moon Girl are the best" respect then he can buy 1000 copies of Thirsty Sword lesbians for goody clout and donate them to a city library. These are the same idiots who claimed the Last Jedi was amazing and then got quiet when the realized that that ship had sailed and come back painted as a different ship.  If this is a huge laughing stock that no one supports then it wouldn't get any response but the SJW social media nutjob corps has already failed that test and that's good enough for me to say it was seen and felt and not ignored as an irrelevancy.

Yeah. they're 'bots" lmao

Edit: if you have any evidence for their being bots, I'd love to see it. I'm sure it's right next to all the posts these people made talking about how angry they are...

my sides

Maybe have a reflect magic spell covertly cast on the orc mother or perhaps she is lent a protective talisman by an elf before the service because elves ain't stupid. They know a little bit about watching the ones that seem off and event security. Then what's left of the wizard can adventure in a battle wheelchair and his henchmen can slather healing unguents on his massive burn scars, after he gets out of the big hollowed out mushroom elf prison having convinced a committee that he has changed his ways and is worthy of parole and early release.