Quote from: Benoist;414789Notice Levi just deleted his avatar and signature.

Nah, I did that last night.  Both were dated; I'm not sure if there's a point to replacing them or not.

Quote from: One Horse Town;414792Villagers and pitchforks.

And torches! Can't forget the torches....

Quote from: Levi Kornelsen;414794Hm.  Given that you don't consider enjoying these kinds of arguments to be a weakness, that follows.

That's...   A rather different view than I have.   It also explains a fair bit, to me, about why you hate the moderation on RPGnet.  I mean, reading ugly fights and even enjoying the trainwreck, but still shutting them down when that's how it works, that's a usual thing for me, and a thing I agree with.  And if that kind of thing smells like hypocrisy to you, then vast swathes of what I think are likely going to smell the same.

Wait, you provoke and enjoy shitstorms, and you come down on people other than yourself for participating in them with your mod powers. And you are surprised that people think you are a hypocrite? What the hell? Of course you're a hypocrite. You punish people for doing something that you not only enjoy, but also do on a regular basis.

-Frank

Quote from: Levi Kornelsen;414794Hm.  Given that you don't consider enjoying these kinds of arguments to be a weakness, that follows.

That's...   A rather different view than I have.   It also explains a fair bit, to me, about why you hate the moderation on RPGnet.  I mean, reading ugly fights and even enjoying the trainwreck, but still shutting them down when that's how it works, that's a usual thing for me, and a thing I agree with.  And if that kind of thing smells like hypocrisy to you, then vast swathes of what I think are likely going to smell the same.

Except there is evidence that you also enjoy instigating some of those ugly fights and enjoy reading the trainwreck which you so tearfully then must lock as a thread.

Hypocrite.

Quote from: FrankTrollman;414797Wait, you provoke and enjoy shitstorms, and you come down on people other than yourself for participating in them with your mod powers. And you are surprised that people think you are a hypocrite? What the hell? Of course you're a hypocrite. You punish people for doing something that you not only enjoy, but also do on a regular basis.

-Frank

Normally Frank has to explain it over three pages, educating you about the history and explaining all of the details about how things change over time, building up to a climax. The fact that Frank can jump in and lay it down in three sentences proves you are retarded.

Quote from: FrankTrollman;414797Wait, you provoke and enjoy shitstorms, and you come down on people other than yourself for participating in them with your mod powers.

You missed a beat.

I keep my provocative nonsense to other sites, like here, where I've always believed it to be not only acceptable but actually invited.

EDIT: I say "believed" because following up on Pseudo's "go tour the threads" thing has shaken me on that count a little.

Quote from: FrankTrollman;414797And you are surprised that people think you are a hypocrite? What the hell? Of course you're a hypocrite. You punish people for doing something that you not only enjoy, but also do on a regular basis.

I also listen to loud music at home, but agree with kicking people off the bus for cranking the volume there, and would happily do so if asked.  Is that hypocrisy?

Quote from: FrankTrollman;414797Wait, you provoke and enjoy shitstorms, and you come down on people other than yourself for participating in them with your mod powers. And you are surprised that people think you are a hypocrite?

Don't forget the claim he propagates also here, on RPGnet and on Story Games that the RPG Site is this Gawd-Awful place where people troll endlessly, which justifies the moderation of RPGnet, while he will incite people to come on to the RPG Site to create the very shitstorms he criticizes. I mean. If that is not hypocritical, I don't know what is!

Quote from: Levi Kornelsen;414795Nah, I did that last night.  Both were dated; I'm not sure if there's a point to replacing them or not.

Maybe, maybe not - but the turtle face was cute and likable even if the text near it sometimes wasn't.


- Ed C.

Quote from: Levi Kornelsen;414800I keep my provocative nonsense to other sites, like here, where I've always believed it to be not only acceptable but actually invited.

No, no, no, Levi.

YOU invite it, you incite people to come on here and create the very shitstorms you decry, so as to validate your own diagnostic that this place is just the asshole of the internet, your sense of superiority, and the part you take in RPGnet's modclique in the same process. Which, let's face it, is not only hypocritical, but outright sleazy.

Quote from: Benoist;414803YOU invite it, you incite people to come on here and create the very shitstorms you decry, so as to validate your own diagnostic that this place is just the asshole of the internet, your sense of superiority, and the part you take in RPGnet's modclique in the same process. Which, let's face it, is not only hypocritical, but outright sleazy.

The bit about validating me as a mod doesn't sting.

But, well, the rest of the post does sting, a bit.   Not like, "Oh, he's got me", but like "There's something to this, dear self.  You never did read far beyond the argumentative threads, did you now?  But you did judge them on just that slice and share that judgement around."

Quote from: Levi Kornelsen;414807But, well, the rest of the post does sting, a bit.   Not like, "Oh, he's got me", but like "There's something to this, dear self.  You never did read far beyond the argumentative threads, did you now?  But you did judge them on just that slice and share that judgement around."

Give me a fucking break.

Quote from: Jimmy Swaggert"I Have Sinned Against You."

Quote from: jeff37923;414809Give me a fucking break.

I think Levi is trying to say he's sorry; maybe give him a break? You might get him to rethink other positions he's taken.

Quote from: Bill White;414813I think Levi is trying to say he's sorry; maybe give him a break? You might get him to rethink other positions he's taken.

there's only one way a person can say sorry and that wasn't it.

I'm quite glad to hear that Levi admits he had the wrong opinion of this site. How he could have formed this wrong opinion having spent all the time he has on here is a bit baffling to me, though.

On the other hand, I wonder what his response would be to the fact that this appears, if anything, more egregious than the inter-forum antics that other users have done that got them banned from RPG.net.

RPGPundit

Quote from: RPGPundit;414824I'm quite glad to hear that Levi admits he had the wrong opinion of this site. How he could have formed this wrong opinion having spent all the time he has on here is a bit baffling to me, though.

Dude, do you remember any of the threads I've tried to start or join?  

As I recall, half of them died with minimal anything - a post from Clash, maybe three or four from others - and the other half were me spit-balling stuff in a way that said "theory, therefore trolling" to the forum.  I'm sure there were more, but that's the stuff I recall.

Plus the hot threads I got in on, full of the kind of venom you poured out on my head blogside yesterday.  (From me, just as much as others)

Is my memory exaggerated?  I'll probably go and look; I mean, the threads should still be there.

Quote from: RPGPundit;414824On the other hand, I wonder what his response would be to the fact that this appears, if anything, more egregious than the inter-forum antics that other users have done that got them banned from RPG.net.

Of course such stuff doesn't belong on RPGnet.   That was the point - I swung by here because I considered this the right place to indulge in such stuff.  

I also post on /tg/ and once in a rare while on /b/ - the scientology protests were fun.  I have a facebook account, a twitter account, and email.  If I started finding my /b/ posts from the pre-protest period (before moot smacked it out), and putting them onto facebook?  A fair number of those folks would be appalled.

My concern, really, is with just how off my judgement of the site has been or become.  Discovering you may be on the back lawn when you thought you were in the arena, and told others "that's the arena; it will make you mean and cruel"?  Not so funny.