After reading the asbove message from Dan Davenport , I then looked at Trouble Tickets for all the threads his name is connected to .

 One thing I noticed: Jeez Luh-Weez that Nina is a cold Harsh Bitch! She must REALLY dislike Dan Davenport.


- Ed C.

Quote from: Levi Kornelsen;414573All the discussions here look the same to me; they look like people being dicks, [...]

No lies are required to call your forum nasty and awful, man.

It can get rough. But on the other hand, we've not had to make a specific rule against starting a thread announcing you're going to masturbate to someone's avatar pic.

That a forum needs a rule like that tells us a lot about the place. There's something foul brewing just under the surface. Thing is, there's always nastiness in forums, because there's nastiness in people. Ever buried an animal or even pile of vegie scraps, then dug it up again a few weeks later? It stinks. Leave it in the open with some air, it gets eaten up quickly and doesn't stink. It's good to air out issues - stifle them and they just putrefy.

I mean, de-modding Dan Davenport? Seriously? I had no idea he was right-wing, left-wing, or whatever - he's just mild-mannered and reasonable. And he's said what I've said for a long time - Tangency began as just part of the friction of the machine, but the friction came to have its own machine.

Most of the moderation rules came about because of stuff in Tangency. Furries and all that shit. You don't really need a heap of rules and regulations when people are discussing THAC0.

Fuck Tangency. At least at the Forge they put their suppressed hostility into game design.

And as Pundit said, they topic-banned Dan from talking about politics at all. If he does, they will permaban him. They need to hand out red armbands to all the mods, if they haven't already.

EDIT: Eh, Benoist is right (in a couple posts; scroll down).  He's always told me the truth as he sees it.  And much as I  have a handle on my own reasons for doing my thing, I don't need to sneer.

Pundit, etc, will of course be able to view the original here; for those who need to see me on a high horse, he's can happily PM that around, make another blog post on how much I suck, whatever.

Later.

It is weird when someone writes something that sounds really thoughtful, but it has the makings of total bullshit.

Quote from: Levi Kornelsen;414647Now, I'm fairly sure we're down to bedrock here - you've got your view, I've got mine, and that's pretty much how it's going to stay for the time being; all that remains are the parting shots.  I wouldn't mind at all if this was mine, though I've always been a sucker for a scrap.  I will, of course, be back to read yours (as if I could stop myself).

No. You are absolutely right.

Since you are either persuaded I have been somehow manipulated by the Pundit to spew hate on RPGnet, or I am just a moron who does not understand the first thing about moderation and needs to be pet-talked to end this silly blathering of mine, we are not going to get anywhere.

The thing is, I just tell you the truth. To your face. Because some times, you do not act like you're just so much above everyone else's concerns that the little children must be talked to like they cannot even begin to grasp what power and responsibility you wield as an adult from RPGnet. I appreciate those times and sadly, this is not one of them.

Awww, man, Levi is just pulling our legs.

He is imitating someone douchy-but-concerned-talking person, isn`t he?

Its amazing what a knife can do, sometimes.

RPGPundit

Quote from: Levi Kornelsen;414525I'm not sure what you want me to respond to, precisely.

The stupid way you moderate your site, along with all the other unpleasant twats that live there, feeding off each other's bullshit.

Quote from: Levi Kornelsen;414573*Shrug*

I don't think that's the case.  Simple as that.

Then you are in severe denial.

I got banned by some hypocrit prick just because i dared to say i don't like this or that video game in relevant discussion threads who then did exactly the same thing over and over himself. Puerile.

Never mind the passive aggressive crap that goes one all the time, supported by clique harpies and perpetrated by moderators like you who should know better.

You people defeat the function of your own site with every post you make.

Quote from: Levi Kornelsen;414621Neither, exactly.

I can't discuss anything comfortably when I expect to be called a sack of shit again at any moment (See: Pundit on the volunteer team I'm part of).  It may be a weird defense, but there it is.  Apologies to you, though.

And I can't discuss anything (or couldn't) on rpg.net when people can provoke and flame with impunity knowing that any response worth its salt will respond in the big red text of stupidity.

And if you can't discuss comfortably here then get a fucking life; that's the most supine crap i've ever heard. This site is hardly the wild west.

What I find interesting is that Levi claims the RPG Site is a sewer of trolling and shitstorms, moderates RPGnet like a reasonable peacemaker and all, but then, he goes to post on Story Games to get a Forge-buddy to come here and stir trouble:

Quote from: Levi on Story GamesTeataine (Or Gregor, as you like)...

I would enjoy watching you fight this fight, going where I've gone before you. I really would. It would be grotesquely entertaining to me, and I would cheer and laugh like the giant bastard that I often am, deep inside. It would bring joy and amusement to that part of my palate that is jaded and wishes to see sport of the kind that only deeply personal, tribal politics can provide.

You'd have to have the real core of that fight at the RPGsite, which, as sites go, is already nasty enough that I don't fear for the worsening of the discourse there the way I do on RPGnet. So, no loss there, except potentially to you. Hell, I've got my seat in the stands all picked out and everything - I'm in that thread, waiting for the fight.

You could be magnificent. Hell, I could show you all my sad, old fights there, and you might even learn a few new debating tricks, as well as developing a healthy pity, even scorn, for my worst moments.

Would it be worth it? Would you accomplish anything? Of course not. You need to be motivated by puffed-up indignation, raw spite, scorn, and some kind of ideological loyalty to even carry on the fight for long - and if you decide to fight that battle for long enough, you will be motivated in that way. I have been, many times, and it still comes back easily, in the kind a heady rush that can only be provided by telling some bastard on the internet that they are wrong.

Sounds great, huh?

So yeah. It's not a guess, and not unconscious at this point. It's seriously hypocritical on Levi's part to come here, tell us the RPG Site is a dump, that moderating RPGnet is so much more reasonable, that he is so much above the fray he just shrugs everything off as childish, nonsensical, to THEN go on yet another board and incite people to come here and create an entertaining shitstorm for him to watch.

Un-fucking-believable.

Hmm.. isn't inciting inter-forum conflicts the kind of things that people on rpg.net get banned for?

How much do you want to bet that Levi doesn't even get de-modded for it? I wouldn't be half-surprised if there's a thread somewhere in the "backroom" of The Tangency-site (formerly known as rpg.net) where this idea came up as a way to "deal" with the danger that theRPGsite represents to them.

RPGpundit

Now that's one for discussion on cross-forum drama by Mod in Trouble Tickets.

Yup. Maybe it should be reported. Its damaging our chance to make all three sites now involved an emotionally safe environment.

RPGPundit

(note that of course, I'm not bothered by the fact that Levi did this, but by the fact that another poster could not do this; that if someone who posts to theRPGsite, say One Horse Town, had done this, the RPG.net modclique would ban his ass immediately, but with one of their own they will give license to act with impunity)