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Title: Just wait until we get to discuss the new DMG player safety stuff!!!
Post by: Man at Arms on October 22, 2024, 05:38:51 PM
WOTC wants to ensure that everyone has a nice, friendly, vanilla gaming session!!!

No matter what other bells and whistles they try to include in the DMG, to garner some sales numbers; just wait until they tell every DM how to run their gaming sessions!!!
Title: Re: Just wait until we get to discuss the new DMG player safety stuff!!!
Post by: Ruprecht on October 22, 2024, 05:48:44 PM
Apparently they are facing a $hitstorm from the left over this because they didn't credit the creators of X-cards and vails. Popcorn is popping.
Title: Re: Just wait until we get to discuss the new DMG player safety stuff!!!
Post by: Brad on October 22, 2024, 06:22:24 PM
Quote from: Ruprecht on October 22, 2024, 05:48:44 PMApparently they are facing a $hitstorm from the left over this because they didn't credit the creators of X-cards and vails. Popcorn is popping.

Not woke enough! Never woke enough! REEEEEEE!

The morons trying to placate these people will just never learn you cannot please the mentally ill.
Title: Re: Just wait until we get to discuss the new DMG player safety stuff!!!
Post by: finarvyn on October 24, 2024, 07:16:38 AM
Bubble wrap. Encase players in bubble wrap so they can't hurt themselves. :)
Title: Re: Just wait until we get to discuss the new DMG player safety stuff!!!
Post by: Exploderwizard on October 24, 2024, 07:26:35 AM
There was no public playtest of any material in the DMG or MM. Those who foolishly spend money on these books will be paying for the privilege of doing so.
Title: Re: Just wait until we get to discuss the new DMG player safety stuff!!!
Post by: Nobleshield on October 24, 2024, 08:07:26 AM
Quote from: Ruprecht on October 22, 2024, 05:48:44 PMApparently they are facing a $hitstorm from the left over this because they didn't credit the creators of X-cards and vails. Popcorn is popping.
The most hilarious part of this is the X-card/lines/veils is literally from the fetish and BDSM community. So nobody sane should even want it to touch the game. I'm shocked this didn't lead into a second satanic panic. Having stuff coming from a real fetish world is IMHO much worse than fake "spells".
Title: Re: Just wait until we get to discuss the new DMG player safety stuff!!!
Post by: Man at Arms on October 24, 2024, 01:50:39 PM
It seems that with each passing year, there is more of a push in "modern" rpgs; to turn the DM into a host and facilitator, for every whim of the players.  It's a little bit much.

Those same players, who want to play these "cool" player-driven rpgs; fully expect a DM to enter into such public service and serve them, like they are waiting on tables and shining shoes.

There has to be something there for the DM, too.  The DM is also playing the game, from a different angle.
Title: Re: Just wait until we get to discuss the new DMG player safety stuff!!!
Post by: Man at Arms on October 24, 2024, 01:53:07 PM
Quote from: finarvyn on October 24, 2024, 07:16:38 AMBubble wrap. Encase players in bubble wrap so they can't hurt themselves. :)


Full body condoms!!!
Title: Re: Just wait until we get to discuss the new DMG player safety stuff!!!
Post by: Krazz on October 24, 2024, 04:43:02 PM
Ah yes, session 0, where players get to lay down firm lines rather than have an adult discuss about what would make a fun game for everyone (and maybe find there is no middle-ground, thus saving everyone's time).

I can just imagine a KKK member finding himself in one of those situations, and his firm lines you must accept and you can't even discuss including:

1) women in positions of power
2) gay people
3) non-whites

Something tells me that the writers only ever thought about how they could use this power, and never wondered if it could ever be used against them.
Title: Re: Just wait until we get to discuss the new DMG player safety stuff!!!
Post by: Omega on October 26, 2024, 04:14:00 PM
Quote from: finarvyn on October 24, 2024, 07:16:38 AMBubble wrap. Encase players in bubble wrap so they can't hurt themselves. :)

That will be more better fake 5e. AKA 7e.
Title: Re: Just wait until we get to discuss the new DMG player safety stuff!!!
Post by: orbitalair on October 31, 2024, 12:20:34 PM
Quote from: Man at Arms on October 22, 2024, 05:38:51 PMWOTC wants to ensure that everyone has a nice, friendly, vanilla gaming session!!!

No matter what other bells and whistles they try to include in the DMG, to garner some sales numbers; just wait until they tell every DM how to run their gaming sessions!!!

No worries GinnyD already did a vid on safety tools, they will just give her money to do more.
Title: Re: Just wait until we get to discuss the new DMG player safety stuff!!!
Post by: Ratman_tf on October 31, 2024, 12:24:00 PM
Quote from: Krazz on October 24, 2024, 04:43:02 PMAh yes, session 0, where players get to lay down firm lines rather than have an adult discuss about what would make a fun game for everyone (and maybe find there is no middle-ground, thus saving everyone's time).

I'm good with the general idea of a session zero. We used to do that all the time. It's the part where you're discussing the next campaign, and people are brainstorming setting and system and what they wanna do in the game.

Not this bullshit safety tool nonsense.
Title: Re: Just wait until we get to discuss the new DMG player safety stuff!!!
Post by: ForgottenF on October 31, 2024, 04:33:27 PM
I tried a Session 0 once, and all I got from my players was "Yeah sure, man. Whatever you want to do sounds cool." Haven't bothered since.
Title: Re: Just wait until we get to discuss the new DMG player safety stuff!!!
Post by: yabaziou on October 31, 2024, 05:15:12 PM
Sweet Jesus ! It is official, the inmates have taken over the asylum !
Do I have to play in an actual BDSM dungeon to be the Dungeon Master or owning the book make me eligible to this title and role ?
I know that the usual WotC/Hasbro (two souless ang greedy corporations which do not care about me) apologists will tell on social media how important those tools for making sure that everybody feels welcomme and safe at a D&D table, but by the blood of my forefathers, I would rather play Kult, high on narcotics, with Jehovah's witenesses as my players than cater to the shittiest persons on this Earth !
Title: Re: Just wait until we get to discuss the new DMG player safety stuff!!!
Post by: SHARK on October 31, 2024, 05:31:30 PM
Quote from: ForgottenF on October 31, 2024, 04:33:27 PMI tried a Session 0 once, and all I got from my players was "Yeah sure, man. Whatever you want to do sounds cool." Haven't bothered since.

Greetings!

That's a good point, ForgottenF. In the past, I have occasionally had "Session Zeroes"--though it wasn't specifically called that. It was just a preparatory session to discuss the campaign, lore, world knowledge, and go through Character creation. Many other times, my players have had a similar response--"SHARK, you're the DM. Whatever you decide is good." Yes, while I am the tyrant king ruling from my throne so to speak--I've always had players *ask* me if they can play this or play that, because they were thinking of X. I am always in control. Players don't *tell me* anything. I think much of the more recent "Session Zero" and "Safety Tools" BS is clearly aimed at elevating the Players to this weird position of control over the campaign and dictating things, while simultaneously reducing and shackling the DM.

Of course, I'm not really a tyrant, but I am the DM, I am in control, and what I say, goes. Beyond that, though, it is *my* game world. *I* know it far better than my players. I know the societies and cultures far better, what is acceptable, what isn't acceptable, what things are likely and what things are unlikely. So, my players are always in a position of *asking* me this or that, but they never dictate or demand anything. I've never had any problems or real conflicts at my table. I think that much of this narcissistic and self-entitled behavior from Players is definitely a recent trend. It certainly never happened back in the day! *Laughing*

My world is pretty strongly a Dark Ages, Sword & Sorcery kind of world, with *some* carefully selected regions embracing some "Gonzo" elements. Lots of historical flavour, and while I have many different race and class and culture options that players can choose from, the milieu balance and verisimilitude is important, so there definitely are races and classes and whatever ideas that just are not appropriate, and simply do not fit.

I think the DM maintaining a strong sense of control, as well as expecting respect from the players--but also a degree of seriousness and respect for the game world, and the game itself, are important dynamics. I think these kind of ideas have more or less fallen out of fashion, which gives rise to much of the conflict and friction we often hear about at game tables--and the many DM's that have simply bowed down to the cultural river flow, and that in turn is why we see so many tables full of players running wild, absolutely crazy races and classes, and just running roughshod over the DM, and ultimately making the D&D game look pretty stupid in my view. So many stories of game groups are like, "WTF is happening there?" *laughing*

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
Title: Re: Just wait until we get to discuss the new DMG player safety stuff!!!
Post by: Omega on October 31, 2024, 05:32:14 PM
Quote from: Ratman_tf on October 31, 2024, 12:24:00 PM
Quote from: Krazz on October 24, 2024, 04:43:02 PMAh yes, session 0, where players get to lay down firm lines rather than have an adult discuss about what would make a fun game for everyone (and maybe find there is no middle-ground, thus saving everyone's time).

I'm good with the general idea of a session zero. We used to do that all the time. It's the part where you're discussing the next campaign, and people are brainstorming setting and system and what they wanna do in the game.

Not this bullshit safety tool nonsense.

Pre-game discussion, or campaign pitches have been co-opted by storygamers and the woke into this "session Zero" mockery.
Title: Re: Just wait until we get to discuss the new DMG player safety stuff!!!
Post by: Spinachcat on October 31, 2024, 06:14:40 PM
Woah, 6e is allowing "Dungeon Masters" to exist??? I thought "master" is too problematic of a term for the woketards?

Isn't that going to make the non-binary furry BLMers (aka, their preferred customer base) run to their therapists?

Personally, I am VERY GLAD that 6e will shit all over the DM's experience. Anything that helps migrate the sane to the OSR is a good thing.

Again, soft secession based on ideology.

As for "Session Zero", I do that via email. AKA, here's a couple campaigns I'm thinking of running, what sounds most fun for this group?

The only thing I do like hearing from a group is semi-consensus on how to rank mystery, combat, exploring, social intrigue as their preferences. Secret vote is fine and the DM gets 2 votes.

Title: Re: Just wait until we get to discuss the new DMG player safety stuff!!!
Post by: Man at Arms on October 31, 2024, 08:14:23 PM
Quote from: Spinachcat on October 31, 2024, 06:14:40 PMWoah, 6e is allowing "Dungeon Masters" to exist??? I thought "master" is too problematic of a term for the woketards?

Isn't that going to make the non-binary furry BLMers (aka, their preferred customer base) run to their therapists?

Personally, I am VERY GLAD that 6e will shit all over the DM's experience. Anything that helps migrate the sane to the OSR is a good thing.

Again, soft secession based on ideology.

As for "Session Zero", I do that via email. AKA, here's a couple campaigns I'm thinking of running, what sounds most fun for this group?

The only thing I do like hearing from a group is semi-consensus on how to rank mystery, combat, exploring, social intrigue as their preferences. Secret vote is fine and the DM gets 2 votes.




They had to leave something there, to justify the need for the next edition.
Title: Re: Just wait until we get to discuss the new DMG player safety stuff!!!
Post by: Man at Arms on October 31, 2024, 09:18:04 PM
Ensuring Fun for All

Mutual Respect

WOTC has changed the world, with the 2024 DMG!!!
Title: Re: Just wait until we get to discuss the new DMG player safety stuff!!!
Post by: Ruprecht on October 31, 2024, 10:55:08 PM
Quote from: Ratman_tf on October 31, 2024, 12:24:00 PMI'm good with the general idea of a session zero. We used to do that all the time. It's the part where you're discussing the next campaign, and people are brainstorming setting and system and what they wanna do in the game.
My group never had a session zero. I don't think my players have even heard of the concept.

The more I think about it the more I suspect the safety tools are about the VTT. I'm surprised they didn't make it a seperate pdf so they could update it frequently as the woke winds change direction.
Title: Re: Just wait until we get to discuss the new DMG player safety stuff!!!
Post by: Dongmaster on November 01, 2024, 02:38:06 PM
Quote from: yabaziou on October 31, 2024, 05:15:12 PMby the blood of my forefathers, I would rather play Kult, high on narcotics, with Jehovah's witenesses as my players than cater to the shittiest persons on this Earth !

Make that two.
Title: Re: Just wait until we get to discuss the new DMG player safety stuff!!!
Post by: GhostNinja on November 03, 2024, 01:07:00 PM
Session 0 and Player consent in a nutshell:

DM: I am running (game) with these elements. Do you want to play? Yes or no?

If yes then they are in.  If no, then there is the door.

Have a problem with the game?  You are free to leave.  No questions asked.  Not changing elements for one troublemaker.  They are easy to replace.

That is the beginning,  middle and end of player consent.

The rest of Session 0 is for brainstorming they type of adventure the players will be playing and characters.

Period.
Title: Re: Just wait until we get to discuss the new DMG player safety stuff!!!
Post by: GhostNinja on November 03, 2024, 01:14:58 PM
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Quote from: orbitalair on October 31, 2024, 12:20:34 PMNo worries GinnyD already did a vid on safety tools, they will just give her money to do more.


I blocked that moron (GinnyD) awhile ago.  I have gamed longer than she has been alive and I have forgotten more than she has ever know.   Her advice is garbage.
Title: Re: Just wait until we get to discuss the new DMG player safety stuff!!!
Post by: Omega on November 04, 2024, 03:48:00 PM
Quote from: GhostNinja on November 03, 2024, 01:14:58 PM[quote
Quote from: orbitalair on October 31, 2024, 12:20:34 PMNo worries GinnyD already did a vid on safety tools, they will just give her money to do more.


I blocked that moron (GinnyD) awhile ago.  I have gamed longer than she has been alive and I have forgotten more than she has ever know.   Her advice is garbage.

Her early LARP stuff was pretty good. The trouble started when she added RPGs to the mix and sometimes it feels like a fairly standard player trying to puzzle out RPGs based on what gaming they know. Much like how some board gamers fumble at grasping RPGs.

Other times her advice is just glaringly wrong.

But thats BGG in a nutshell with its view on RPGs. Whats an RPG? "A book!" "An RPG has a dungeon and minis!" and other nonsense that has turned their RPG section into a complete farce.
Title: Re: Just wait until we get to discuss the new DMG player safety stuff!!!
Post by: THE_Leopold on November 04, 2024, 06:26:46 PM
Quote from: GhostNinja on November 03, 2024, 01:07:00 PMSession 0 and Player consent in a nutshell:

DM: I am running (game) with these elements. Do you want to play? Yes or no?

If yes then they are in.  If no, then there is the door.

Have a problem with the game?  You are free to leave.  No questions asked.  Not changing elements for one troublemaker.  They are easy to replace.

That is the beginning,  middle and end of player consent.

The rest of Session 0 is for brainstorming they type of adventure the players will be playing and characters.

Period.

I agree and disagree on this approach. 

I agree that you should hold a firm line on what makes the person being the DM run the game that they are comfortable and OK with running and telling the players "Here's some data points on what this campaign will be about, any questions?"

This is where I disagree with the approach saying that I want feedback as the players may say "Well that's good you want to do X but what about Y?" or "Have you thought about This,That, the Other?"

I want to hear what the players are interested in as my crew has some fantastic ideas that I wouldn't think of and they provide them to me in Session 0.

We have some topics that are strictly taboo (nearly anything involving Bad Things with Kids) as no one wants to deal with them not even in a Horror based campaign or Call of Cthulu 1 shot.  We all agreed "Ya know what, this isn't for me let's not use that in our games." and we came to a consensus.   The rest is fair game and pushing the envelope as far as we can go.

Title: Re: Just wait until we get to discuss the new DMG player safety stuff!!!
Post by: GhostNinja on November 04, 2024, 06:35:51 PM
Quote from: Omega on November 04, 2024, 03:48:00 PMHer early LARP stuff was pretty good. The trouble started when she added RPGs to the mix and sometimes it feels like a fairly standard player trying to puzzle out RPGs based on what gaming they know. Much like how some board gamers fumble at grasping RPGs.

The problem is there are people who think she gives good advice.


Quote from: Omega on November 04, 2024, 03:48:00 PMOther times her advice is just glaringly wrong.

I watched a bunch of her videos and her advice is more wrong then right.  And the good advice is most likely advice she gets from elsewhere and passes it off as hers.

Quote from: Omega on November 04, 2024, 03:48:00 PMBut thats BGG in a nutshell with its view on RPGs. Whats an RPG? "A book!" "An RPG has a dungeon and minis!" and other nonsense that has turned their RPG section into a complete farce.

Agreed
Title: Re: Just wait until we get to discuss the new DMG player safety stuff!!!
Post by: GhostNinja on November 04, 2024, 06:38:01 PM
Quote from: THE_Leopold on November 04, 2024, 06:26:46 PMI agree and disagree on this approach. 

I agree that you should hold a firm line on what makes the person being the DM run the game that they are comfortable and OK with running and telling the players "Here's some data points on what this campaign will be about, any questions?"

This is where I disagree with the approach saying that I want feedback as the players may say "Well that's good you want to do X but what about Y?" or "Have you thought about This,That, the Other?"

I want to hear what the players are interested in as my crew has some fantastic ideas that I wouldn't think of and they provide them to me in Session 0.

We have some topics that are strictly taboo (nearly anything involving Bad Things with Kids) as no one wants to deal with them not even in a Horror based campaign or Call of Cthulu 1 shot.  We all agreed "Ya know what, this isn't for me let's not use that in our games." and we came to a consensus.   The rest is fair game and pushing the envelope as far as we can go.

Well I keep the bad stuff out without even having to mention it (sex and all the objectionable stuff.   I do want feedback from my players and I ask for it.  I just am not going to put up with whiners in my game.  They get replaced.
Title: Re: Just wait until we get to discuss the new DMG player safety stuff!!!
Post by: S'mon on November 04, 2024, 09:16:31 PM
Quote from: GhostNinja on November 04, 2024, 06:35:51 PMI watched a bunch of her videos and her advice is more wrong then right.  And the good advice is most likely advice she gets from elsewhere and passes it off as hers.

She seems a bit below average as a GM. Which isn't a terrible place to be, but then you have people paying thousands of dollars for her to GM them... Likewise her mental health problems aren't particularly remarkable, but she doesn't come across as a particularly nice person - and I have interacted politely with her. Her Cosplay is good but there's certainly cuter nerd girls doing better Cosplay, SnarkyJay is cute and kinda based https://www.youtube.com/@snarkyjay although being a US Latina she seems to think she has not-white Privilege. :)
Title: Re: Just wait until we get to discuss the new DMG player safety stuff!!!
Post by: GhostNinja on November 05, 2024, 09:16:28 AM
Quote from: S'mon on November 04, 2024, 09:16:31 PMShe seems a bit below average as a GM. Which isn't a terrible place to be

Yep, but she has no business giving game advice.  People like us who have been gaming for a long time are better suited (I dont want to do it but others are welcome.

Quote from: S'mon on November 04, 2024, 09:16:31 PMBut then you have people paying thousands of dollars for her to GM them...

I think that is crazy.  She is no where good enough to be charging that kind of money.  But as they say, a fool and their money is soon parted.

Quote from: S'mon on November 04, 2024, 09:16:31 PMLikewise her mental health problems aren't particularly remarkable, but she doesn't come across as a particularly nice person - and I have interacted politely with her.

Yeah.  She suffers from burnout way too much for someone who is rather new to gaming.


Quote from: S'mon on November 04, 2024, 09:16:31 PMHer Cosplay is good but there's certainly cuter nerd girls doing better Cosplay, SnarkyJay is cute and kinda based https://www.youtube.com/@snarkyjay although being a US Latina she seems to think she has not-white Privilege. :)

I have no interest in cosplay so I have no opinion about that.
Title: Re: Just wait until we get to discuss the new DMG player safety stuff!!!
Post by: THE_Leopold on November 05, 2024, 09:28:26 AM
Quote from: S'mon on November 04, 2024, 09:16:31 PM
Quote from: GhostNinja on November 04, 2024, 06:35:51 PMI watched a bunch of her videos and her advice is more wrong then right.  And the good advice is most likely advice she gets from elsewhere and passes it off as hers.

She seems a bit below average as a GM. Which isn't a terrible place to be, but then you have people paying thousands of dollars for her to GM them... Likewise her mental health problems aren't particularly remarkable, but she doesn't come across as a particularly nice person - and I have interacted politely with her. Her Cosplay is good but there's certainly cuter nerd girls doing better Cosplay, SnarkyJay is cute and kinda based https://www.youtube.com/@snarkyjay although being a US Latina she seems to think she has not-white Privilege. :)


She's a locust on the hobby. Once her time in the sun is done she will move onto the next thing. They always do.
Title: Re: Just wait until we get to discuss the new DMG player safety stuff!!!
Post by: S'mon on November 05, 2024, 09:44:51 AM
Quote from: GhostNinja on November 05, 2024, 09:16:28 AMI have no interest in cosplay so I have no opinion about that.

SnarkyJay is more a media review/pop culture channel, broadly anti-Establishment like Critical Drinker & Nerdrotic, she's been on those livestream things with them. As with Ginny Di, I think Cosplay is cool to look at but doesn't support a channel. I think that's 90% why Ginny Di went into RPG discussion, as a scaffold to show off her Cosplay. Her RPG advice type stuff varies from banal to terrible, but lots of people would rather see bad advice + good Cosplay, than good advice from your average basement dwelling Neckbeard type. :D

Edit: Worst of all of course would be to just point a camera at some RPG books and talk off-camera for 30 minutes... but what kind of a loon would do that?? :D
Title: Re: Just wait until we get to discuss the new DMG player safety stuff!!!
Post by: GhostNinja on November 05, 2024, 10:38:25 AM
Quote from: THE_Leopold on November 05, 2024, 09:28:26 AMShe's a locust on the hobby. Once her time in the sun is done she will move onto the next thing. They always do.

I agree.  Since I have her blocked I don't know if she is still popular or not or whether she is fading out.  I don't really hear much about her though I may just not go to the places she is talked about.
Title: Re: Just wait until we get to discuss the new DMG player safety stuff!!!
Post by: GhostNinja on November 05, 2024, 10:42:00 AM
Quote from: S'mon on November 05, 2024, 09:44:51 AMSnarkyJay is more a media review/pop culture channel, broadly anti-Establishment like Critical Drinker & Nerdrotic, she's been on those livestream things with them. As with Ginny Di, I think Cosplay is cool to look at but doesn't support a channel. I think that's 90% why Ginny Di went into RPG discussion, as a scaffold to show off her Cosplay. Her RPG advice type stuff varies from banal to terrible, but lots of people would rather see bad advice + good Cosplay, than good advice from your average basement dwelling Neckbeard type. :D

Professor DM seems to love her and talks about her so I have blocked him so I don't have to hear about her.  I mostly blocked him for his clickbait thumbnails and titles and he really doesn't give me anything I find useful.

Quote from: S'mon on November 05, 2024, 09:44:51 AMEdit: Worst of all of course would be to just point a camera at some RPG books and talk off-camera for 30 minutes... but what kind of a loon would do that?? :D

Hmm, not sure. :)
Title: Re: Just wait until we get to discuss the new DMG player safety stuff!!!
Post by: S'mon on November 05, 2024, 11:54:56 AM
Quote from: GhostNinja on November 05, 2024, 10:42:00 AMProfessor DM seems to love her and talks about her so I have blocked him so I don't have to hear about her.  I mostly blocked him for his clickbait thumbnails and titles and he really doesn't give me anything I find useful.

He just posted a pretty good video on old school games where the players don't know the rules. Not clickbait content at all, though I guess the title was framed for max engagement. You may be a bit harsh on the blocking if that is your standard (waits to be blocked...) :D
Title: Re: Just wait until we get to discuss the new DMG player safety stuff!!!
Post by: GhostNinja on November 05, 2024, 01:52:34 PM
Quote from: S'mon on November 05, 2024, 11:54:56 AMHe just posted a pretty good video on old school games where the players don't know the rules. Not clickbait content at all, though I guess the title was framed for max engagement. You may be a bit harsh on the blocking if that is your standard (waits to be blocked...) :D

Sorry S'mon, Ghostninja has blocked your posts.

Kidding.

Maybe I will go and check it out.  Thanks for letting me know.
Title: Re: Just wait until we get to discuss the new DMG player safety stuff!!!
Post by: Eirikrautha on November 05, 2024, 06:22:44 PM
Quote from: THE_Leopold on November 05, 2024, 09:28:26 AMShe's a locust on the hobby. Once her time in the sun is done she will move onto the next thing. They always do.

She's a thirst trap.  A solid seven who cashes in on the stereotypical nerd who believes that the cam girl actually cares about him.  Those of us who are married with kids and actually know the game really aren't her demographic.  She's nearing the wall, anyway, and eventually her subs will outgrow her and her advice (and it really shouldn't take that long, based on her content).  I feel like there's a little "in-group" in the Youtube RPG space (her, Prof DM, DeRopp, Glicker, et al.) who all kind of promote each other in the hopes that a rising tide will raise all boats.  So there's no really surprise in Prof DM being friendly...
Title: Re: Just wait until we get to discuss the new DMG player safety stuff!!!
Post by: Omega on November 06, 2024, 02:24:37 AM
Quote from: GhostNinja on November 05, 2024, 10:42:00 AMProfessor DM seems to love her and talks about her so I have blocked him so I don't have to hear about her.  I mostly blocked him for his clickbait thumbnails and titles and he really doesn't give me anything I find useful.

Sounds like my feelings about Matt Colville. He started out ok. But at some point all that went out the window and last few vids of his I glanced at he was spouting standard storygamer "advice".
Title: Re: Just wait until we get to discuss the new DMG player safety stuff!!!
Post by: S'mon on November 06, 2024, 03:25:52 AM
Quote from: Omega on November 06, 2024, 02:24:37 AM
Quote from: GhostNinja on November 05, 2024, 10:42:00 AMProfessor DM seems to love her and talks about her so I have blocked him so I don't have to hear about her.  I mostly blocked him for his clickbait thumbnails and titles and he really doesn't give me anything I find useful.

Sounds like my feelings about Matt Colville. He started out ok. But at some point all that went out the window and last few vids of his I glanced at he was spouting standard storygamer "advice".


Prof DM probably does too much WoTC clickbait, but his GM advice stuff is pretty solid old-school orientation. Colville is an odd one who does seem to have become worse over time. Early on in the 5e era Colville was a notable voice promoting a more old school approach in a wilderness of linear railroading.  Prof DM gives pretty consistently good advice I find, although his published works seem to be all 2e style railroads. I noticed that Colville is on the Left and Prof DM definitely isn't, by the standards of us academics he seems quite Right wing. He definitely likes his booby miniatures & art which makes him a kindred spirit, whereas Colville is a Male Feminist who hates on REH. That Prof DM's group is mostly female probably helps, it's my female players who demand more boobs on the campaign page. :D
Title: Re: Just wait until we get to discuss the new DMG player safety stuff!!!
Post by: Exploderwizard on November 06, 2024, 07:38:46 AM
Quote from: S'mon on November 06, 2024, 03:25:52 AMProf DM probably does too much WoTC clickbait, but his GM advice stuff is pretty solid old-school orientation. Colville is an odd one who does seem to have become worse over time. Early on in the 5e era Colville was a notable voice promoting a more old school approach in a wilderness of linear railroading.  Prof DM gives pretty consistently good advice I find, although his published works seem to be all 2e style railroads. I noticed that Colville is on the Left and Prof DM definitely isn't, by the standards of us academics he seems quite Right wing. He definitely likes his booby miniatures & art which makes him a kindred spirit, whereas Colville is a Male Feminist who hates on REH. That Prof DM's group is mostly female probably helps, it's my female players who demand more boobs on the campaign page. :D

So gang, how do you like the campaign so far? What would you like to see more of? Intrigue? Mystery? Combat?

BOOBS!   
Title: Re: Just wait until we get to discuss the new DMG player safety stuff!!!
Post by: S'mon on November 06, 2024, 10:44:35 AM
Quote from: Exploderwizard on November 06, 2024, 07:38:46 AMSo gang, how do you like the campaign so far? What would you like to see more of? Intrigue? Mystery? Combat?

BOOBS!   

To be fair, I do have one player whose reaction to meeting a bare breasted Amazon Warrior is to knit her a scarf to keep her warm. :D
Title: Re: Just wait until we get to discuss the new DMG player safety stuff!!!
Post by: Man at Arms on November 06, 2024, 01:57:41 PM
In reference to several previous posts:

Calling Ginny D a solid 7, is being a little bit generous. Maybe a 6.375, but a 7?

Matt C was putting out some pretty good videos, years ago.  He championed fun, interesting gaming sessions.  But after a few years, I didn't enjoy the content as much.

Prof DM is much more entertaining, to me.  He is a fan of low level play, fewer hp, letting player characters pass away, etc.  He can tell good stories, with ease.

I'm not looking for RPG gurus.  I just like to watch videos, while I drink my coffee.  Prof DM, probably runs a great gaming session.
Title: Re: Just wait until we get to discuss the new DMG player safety stuff!!!
Post by: GhostNinja on November 06, 2024, 04:08:42 PM
Quote from: Eirikrautha on November 05, 2024, 06:22:44 PMShe's a thirst trap.  A solid seven who cashes in on the stereotypical nerd who believes that the cam girl actually cares about him.  Those of us who are married with kids and actually know the game really aren't her demographic.  She's nearing the wall, anyway, and eventually her subs will outgrow her and her advice (and it really shouldn't take that long, based on her content).  I feel like there's a little "in-group" in the Youtube RPG space (her, Prof DM, DeRopp, Glicker, et al.) who all kind of promote each other in the hopes that a rising tide will raise all boats.  So there's no really surprise in Prof DM being friendly...

I totally agree.   It's like thinking that the stripper at the strip club really likes you.  Nope, she just wants your money.
Title: Re: Just wait until we get to discuss the new DMG player safety stuff!!!
Post by: GhostNinja on November 06, 2024, 04:09:55 PM
Quote from: Omega on November 06, 2024, 02:24:37 AMSounds like my feelings about Matt Colville. He started out ok. But at some point all that went out the window and last few vids of his I glanced at he was spouting standard storygamer "advice".

I have tried a couple of times of listening to Matt Colville but his videos bored me to tears and I stopped listening and shut off the video.

Not sure why people hold his videos in such high regard.
Title: Re: Just wait until we get to discuss the new DMG player safety stuff!!!
Post by: GhostNinja on November 06, 2024, 04:11:01 PM
Quote from: Exploderwizard on November 06, 2024, 07:38:46 AMSo gang, how do you like the campaign so far? What would you like to see more of? Intrigue? Mystery? Combat?

BOOBS!   

Yes! I want in this campaign!!! :)
Title: Re: Just wait until we get to discuss the new DMG player safety stuff!!!
Post by: Omega on November 06, 2024, 04:21:31 PM
Quote from: GhostNinja on November 06, 2024, 04:09:55 PM
Quote from: Omega on November 06, 2024, 02:24:37 AMSounds like my feelings about Matt Colville. He started out ok. But at some point all that went out the window and last few vids of his I glanced at he was spouting standard storygamer "advice".

I have tried a couple of times of listening to Matt Colville but his videos bored me to tears and I stopped listening and shut off the video.

Not sure why people hold his videos in such high regard.

Same. At most he is interesting when he is recounting sessions. But I was listening to one and it hit me what an obnoxious condescending railroad his adventures can be.

Yet people fawn all over him.
Title: Re: Just wait until we get to discuss the new DMG player safety stuff!!!
Post by: Omega on November 06, 2024, 04:22:31 PM
Quote from: GhostNinja on November 06, 2024, 04:11:01 PM
Quote from: Exploderwizard on November 06, 2024, 07:38:46 AMSo gang, how do you like the campaign so far? What would you like to see more of? Intrigue? Mystery? Combat?

BOOBS!   

Yes! I want in this campaign!!! :)

Play Macho Women with Guns? Though that is a minis wargame pretending to be an RPG.
Title: Re: Just wait until we get to discuss the new DMG player safety stuff!!!
Post by: Opaopajr on November 06, 2024, 07:43:06 PM
Quote from: Omega on November 06, 2024, 04:22:31 PM
Quote from: GhostNinja on November 06, 2024, 04:11:01 PM
Quote from: Exploderwizard on November 06, 2024, 07:38:46 AMSo gang, how do you like the campaign so far? What would you like to see more of? Intrigue? Mystery? Combat?

BOOBS! 

Yes! I want in this campaign!!! :)

Play Macho Women with Guns? Though that is a minis wargame pretending to be an RPG.

SPANCs (Space Pirate Amazon Ninja Cats)? ... but that's furry boobs. Ooh! You can make it Knitters instead of Cats! :o SPANKs! ;) They like to fight mock battles with twirled wet shower towels.