The game session that was supposed to be this past Sunday got 'paused'/delayed til this Friday evening.
Thought I had a copy of GURPS: ROME - but it turns I probablysold it sometime in 2003.
Does anyone have a link to a good map of Ancient Imperial Rome?
Preferably in black and clearly marked or subtitled.
- Ed C.
Quote from: Koltar;387838Does anyone have a link to a good map of Ancient Imperial Rome?
Do a Google images search on:
imperial rome map
Turns up lots of good maps.
Google Earth might also be helpful for you. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqMXIRwQniA)
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historical/shepherd/rome_athens_imperial_plans.jpg
Semi-related story. The same weekend I saw Gladiator, I wrote up a G: Imperial Rome short adventure that got published in Pyramid.
For reals.
Also paid about $350 for an offical research and collegiate-quality Atlas of the Greek and Roman World (http://www.amazon.com/Barrington-Atlas-Greek-Directory-CD-ROM/dp/069103169X) (like, library sized, with a CD and everything) since ancient Rome is my medicine.
So, what do you want to know?
(http://people.ucalgary.ca/~eslinger/img/content.gifs/maps/maps.hc/RomanWorld.jpg)
Also try "ancient rome map" in Google image search.
I like this map (http://www.tigtail.org/TIG/S_View/TVM/E/Ancient/Roman/architecture/rome_imperial_rome_map-1k.PNG) and this map (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/11/NSRW_Plan_of_Ancient_Rome.png) and this map (http://www.probertencyclopaedia.com/photolib/maps/Map%20of%20Ancient%20Rome%201906.jpg) quite a bit because they show the hills. This one (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/15/Plan_Rome.PNG) is also pretty good.
Bah, John, you think too small. Rome is ROME, not just the city on the hills. ;)
Quote from: Werekoala;387852Bah, John, you think too small. Rome is ROME, not just the city on the hills. ;)
Yeah, that's what the losers sent to the frontier would like you to think, but the real action happens in Rome, the city. ;)
Quote from: John Morrow;387854Yeah, that's what the losers sent to the frontier would like you to think, but the real action happens in Rome, the city. ;)
Patrician bastard. :p
If Koltar wants the whole Empire, then the search terms are:
roman empire map
Good stuff like this (http://www.unc.edu/awmc/downloads/rve_12_1Med.jpg), this (http://www.socialstudiesforkids.com/graphics/romanempiremaplarge.jpg), this (http://www.throneworld.com/oathofempire/geographica/oath_roman_empire.gif), this (http://www.probertencyclopaedia.com/photolib/maps/Map%20of%20Roman%20Empire%201906.jpg), and this (http://www.probertencyclopaedia.com/photolib/maps/Map%20of%20Roman%20Empire%201906.jpg).
ADDED: Also this (http://www.unc.edu/awmc/downloads/rve_13_2Lrg.jpg).
No - just the City maps and "suburbs" would be fine.
My players will be visiting "Johnson's Rome" during Friday's game session.
Thats the alternate timeline version of Rome I men tioned in another thread.
- Ed C.
Quote from: Werekoala;387850Semi-related story. The same weekend I saw Gladiator, I wrote up a G: Imperial Rome short adventure that got published in Pyramid.
So, what do you want to know?
Cool.
Then you are definitely one who will likely know what I'm talking about.
Where would travelers from outside of Rome stay for a week ?
Especially timline hopper I-Patrol trainees on a "spring Break" ?
Since this is Johnson's Rome - it is the Empire as if the Roman Empire had been a tad stronger and lasted longer. Current 'year' is equivalent to our 1206 A.D.
Here is a quote from the INFINITE WORLDS book:
QuoteFrom INFINITE WORLDS: When Alex A. Johnson, the founder of Johnson Crosstime Incorporated, arrived in Rome from Homeline in 1192(2013), he found the second-biggest city of a cosmopolitan empire just hitting its second peak. The city of Rome compensated for its “second city” status by being very, very traditional and very, very decadent at the same time. Johnson fell in love immediately.
He introduced a number of improvements as he built up his local power base, from the telegraph to ice cream to hand-rolled cigars. (He had to bribe a Roman admiral to discover America first, but for lifelong cigar-smoker Johnson, it was more than worth it.) As governor of Pannonia, he drove off all the Pechenegs with horse artillery and light infantry, and the ensuing military revolution is spreading to the more conservative generals in India and Gaetulia, stabilizing imperial defenses at a substantial cost savings.
So,....where are the likely telegraph lines going in and out of Rome?
For that matter the telegraph office?
Would there be an Ice cream stand near the forum?
What other subtle technology changes could be slipped in while still retaining the feel of the Roman Empire?
- Ed C.
EDIT: Oh yeah -Thanks for the maps! Guys. Its very much appreciated. I saved most of them to my computer files and I'm trying toi figure out which one or two are the clearest or easiest for my players to use. Thanks again
Here, try this interactive map: http://www.roman-empire.net/maps/map-rome.html
You can find quite a few places in the city using that; the dropdown will highlight specific buildings or places for you.
As to where outsiders would stay, most of the mid- to low-class residences and inns were in the city center (the richer folks tended to live on the outskirts or on the hills which were reserved for them). They would likely stay in an Insula, a Roman equivalent of an apartment building, usually 3-5 stories tall or so. They can be rickety firetraps, so bear that in mind. Typically you would have a block of four or so with the "front" of the apartments opening onto a common courtyard, and the backs of the buildings would face the street, making it feel a bit like a narrow canyon. Now by the 1200s or so, and especially considering technological upgrades, this might change somewhat, since I doubt Johnson wants his city burning down every few years. Bad for business.
As to telegraphs, they would be like they were in our world, and would follow the major roadways (the Via Appia being one, for example). Since they radiate out from Rome like spokes of a wheel, if you wanted a central office it would likely be near the city center as well (Forum Romanum would be my choice). Another option - you might expect smaller "satellite" offices at the walls next to each of the major roadways, with each acting as a central station for a section of the city.
Icecream - yep, at the Collesium and also at the Fora spread throughout the city. Forums in Rome were public meeting places, sometimes hosted markets, and political discussions. Don't forget the bath-houses as well - icecream would be a big hit there I imagine.
Werekoala,
Thank you for the ideas and suggestions there.
Recently I have been overdosing my eyes on DVD episodes of HBO's "Rome" 1st season, partly to get a feel for things Roman. While watching I've sonetimes tried to extrapolate that look and stuff forward in time to the early 1200s in my mind's eye to try and make for a good game session.
- Ed C.
The DVDs are borrowed from a friend - have to return them soon unbfortunately.
A little advance notice would've been nice as I could have lent you my copy of the Ordnance Survey Map of Roman Britain, however someone thoughtfully scanned a copy of one and made it available online here:
http://www.bibliographics.com/MAPS/BRITAIN/BRIT-MAP-FRAME-LOOK.htm (http://www.bibliographics.com/MAPS/BRITAIN/BRIT-MAP-FRAME-LOOK.htm)
You can zoom in for reasonable closeup views. I really wish I could get some hardcopies of similar maps of the Roman Frontier of Germania, as well as from the Roman Era middle east.
Quote from: GameDaddy;387997A little advance notice would've been nice as I could have lent you my copy of the Ordnance Survey Map of Roman Britain, however someone thoughtfully scanned a copy of one and made it available online here:
http://www.bibliographics.com/MAPS/BRITAIN/BRIT-MAP-FRAME-LOOK.htm (http://www.bibliographics.com/MAPS/BRITAIN/BRIT-MAP-FRAME-LOOK.htm)
Thanks.
You could always stop into the store tomorrow - I'm running the game session after 5:30pm at the store on our tables there.
- Ed C.