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Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Spinachcat on February 05, 2014, 02:45:28 AM
I always assumed that D&D Next was some whackass strap on name that was only going to be used during playtesting. Apparently, its now the name appearing on products for sale.

So when somebody says "Let's play D&D", then we can shout "Next!"

WTF?

Has it been confirmed that the new edition of D&D is going to have a name even more lame than Pathfinder? Anybody gotta linky?
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Dirk Remmecke on February 05, 2014, 03:02:06 AM
Quote from: Spinachcat;729384a name even more lame than Pathfinder?

Is that even possible...?
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Rincewind1 on February 05, 2014, 03:09:55 AM
I have it on good account that 6e will be called Next: 360 or Nexter, it is yet up for vote.
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: YourSwordisMine on February 05, 2014, 06:10:05 AM
Quote from: Rincewind1;729389I have it on good account that 6e will be called Next: 360 or Nexter, it is yet up for vote.

Nah, 6e will be called Dungeons and Dragons Vista

So, I guess that really does make 4e ME
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Omega on February 05, 2014, 06:14:48 AM
Quote from: YourSwordisMine;729401Nah, 6e will be called Dungeons and Dragons Vista

So, I guess that really does make 4e ME

The 90s called and wants its snappy buzzword back.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/87/Anext1_HCV.jpg/401px-Anext1_HCV.jpg)
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: mhensley on February 05, 2014, 06:44:29 AM
I'd be surprised if it was named anything other than just plain old Dungeons & Dragons.  There have been no announcements of any planned products for the release of the new edition yet.  The Next stuff is still just for the playtest rules.
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Bedrockbrendan on February 05, 2014, 07:55:08 AM
Next would be a bad name, not just because it sounds like a soft drink. I thini calling it D&D next would confuse people who ahvent played and are encountering it for the first time (though they may have heard the name dungeons and dragons).
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Bill on February 05, 2014, 08:33:16 AM
Quote from: YourSwordisMine;729401Nah, 6e will be called Dungeons and Dragons Vista

So, I guess that really does make 4e ME

Damn..we missed a chance at "DND Millennium"
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: hagbard on February 05, 2014, 08:39:26 AM
I always referred to 3.0 and 3.5 as 'D&D Reloaded' and 4.0 as 'D&D Revolutions'.
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Black Vulmea on February 05, 2014, 11:18:04 AM
Quote from: Omega;729402The 90s called and wants its snappy buzzword back.
Serio.

Please, tell me someone with actual marketing experience is gonna put the brakes on this at some point.
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Sacrosanct on February 05, 2014, 11:30:25 AM
It's the one thing fans of all editions agree on.  "Next" is dumb.
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Snowman0147 on February 05, 2014, 12:37:51 PM
What happen to just 5th edition.  It is right there and too the point.
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: flyerfan1991 on February 05, 2014, 12:46:21 PM
I thought it was going to be called "We're Sorry About 4e".
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Snowman0147 on February 05, 2014, 01:14:02 PM
Quote from: flyerfan1991;729448I thought it was going to be called "We're Sorry About 4e".

You know I like 4e from a GM perspective because at least it wasn't 3rd edition, or 3.5 edition.  Seriously 4e made my job in designing monsters and settings easier compared to 3.5.

Still even I have to say that is the best name ever for DnD Next.  That should be right in the title because look back at 4th edition I just see too many flaws.  Way to many to be forgiven to be quite honest.
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Ladybird on February 05, 2014, 01:41:40 PM
If they were being honest, it would be something like 30th Ed, right?

Anyway, I suspect they'll want to keep numbers off it to make it conceptually easier for a new audience to buy into - by calling it 5th Edition, that's four editions people have potentially missed out on stuff of, whereas just calling it Next, or Kumquat, or Modern Warfare, implies that it's a fresher start and easier entry point.

I suspect they'll try their best to just brand it Dungeons and Dragons.
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: VengerSatanis on February 05, 2014, 01:46:03 PM
Personally, I think Dungeons & Dragons 5th edition is a bad move.  It draws attention to the fact that the prior editions exist and many D&D fans believe (or will believe) them superior to the latest incarnation.  

At least "Next" has some pizzazz, signifying evolution without coming right out and saying "Hey, this is going to be the very bestest edition where we turn things around and make pretty much everyone happy and playing the same game again."  So, you might be thinking why not "D&D Evolution" in that case... well, not only would that be predictable but it would start an argument whenever D&D Evolution was mentioned.  "D&DE is NOT an evolution in game design!!!"

They can't be too descriptive either.  D&D Bloody Carnage will appeal to some, but not most.  Just as D&D Heroic Deeds or D&D Eldritch Vietnam would alienate a part of the fan base.  Gotta keep it somewhat generic or, at least, neutral.  

Next is fine by me.  Not my 1st choice, but then I wouldn't want to cater to the fantasy roleplaying masses, I'd do something deeply personal and financially idiotic.

VS
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Exploderwizard on February 05, 2014, 02:16:34 PM
Quote from: Sacrosanct;729439It's the one thing fans of all editions agree on.  "Next" is dumb.

A clever strategy by WOTC to unify the fanbase? :p
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: YourSwordisMine on February 05, 2014, 04:49:51 PM
Quote from: Ladybird;729472If they were being honest, it would be something like 30th Ed, right?

OD&D, Holmes Basic, AD&D1e, B/X, BECMI/RC, AD&D2e, D&D3e/3.5, D&D 4e/Essentials

I count 8 editions roughly, Next would be 9th.

I'm counting BECMI/RC, 3e/3.5, and 4e/Essentials as one edition each respectively. If you counted them each their own, that would make Next the 12th Edition.

IMHO
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: YourSwordisMine on February 05, 2014, 04:53:50 PM
Quote from: Omega;729402The 90s called and wants its snappy buzzword back.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/87/Anext1_HCV.jpg/401px-Anext1_HCV.jpg)

Would rather have this than the Xtreme nonsense that was pretty popular...

D&D Xtreme would make 4e look OSR, and give Exalted a run for its money...

*shudder* I need some brain bleach now...


The mutated deformed demonic offspring of Exalted and Rifts...

/wrists
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: robiswrong on February 05, 2014, 05:08:21 PM
Quote from: hagbard;729417I always referred to 3.0 and 3.5 as 'D&D Reloaded' and 4.0 as 'D&D Revolutions'.

DAYUM.

Not disagreeing, though.
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Bloody Stupid Johnson on February 05, 2014, 10:16:58 PM
They should just call it Durps.
(Dragon-y Unrecognizeable Role Playing System)
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Gizmoduck5000 on February 06, 2014, 01:00:30 AM
Crystal Dungeons & Dragons?

Maybe just "Josta".
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Netwyrm on February 06, 2014, 01:21:12 AM
These certainly resemble product releases to me, and the earlier two are labeled "D&D NEXT" upon the cover.

http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product/120762/Vault-of-the-Dracolich-%28D%26D-Next%29?src=s_pi

http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product/123270/Ghosts-of-Dragonspear-Castle-%28D%26D-Next%29

http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product/125600/Dreams-of-the-Red-Wizards-Scourge-of-the-Sword-Coast-%28D%26D-Next%29

I am pleased to see a distinct change in the frontispiece art style--no spikes, more color, and a distinctly more N.C. Wyeth feel. Not sure if I like the over-modern trade dress, however.
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: S'mon on February 06, 2014, 02:50:37 AM
From
Quote from: Netwyrm;729598http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product/125600/Dreams-of-the-Red-Wizards-Scourge-of-the-Sword-Coast-%28D%26D-Next%29

Following a launch weekend on February 15-16, 2014, "Scourge of the Sword Coast" ran from February 19, 2014 to May 7, 2014.

Shannon's use of past tense for future events is kinda weird, like he's sitting at the end of the universe looking back over Creation. :D
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: mhensley on February 06, 2014, 06:48:08 AM
Quote from: Netwyrm;729598These certainly resemble product releases to me, and the earlier two are labeled "D&D NEXT" upon the cover.

eh, it doesn't really count until they release something that will actually sit on a store shelf
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Exploderwizard on February 06, 2014, 08:04:40 AM
Quote from: Bloody Stupid Johnson;729569They should just call it Durps.
(Dragon-y Unrecognizeable Role Playing System)

DURPS is already taken. I created DURPS ( Dweomercraefting Universal Roleplaying System) over 20 years ago as a D&D hack for GURPS. I bundled point total ranges into "levels" and some other wacky crap.

It was a joke to get some die hard D&D players to try GURPS. :p
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Bill on February 06, 2014, 09:36:52 AM
"Derps" is kinda catchy.
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: flyerfan1991 on February 06, 2014, 11:09:42 AM
Quote from: Bill;729635"Derps" is kinda catchy.

Steve Jackson might not be so amused, however.
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Sacrosanct on February 06, 2014, 11:11:31 AM
"D&D: The Sundering"

Ties in with their whole FR deal, as well as referencing all the nerdrage and butthurt Next is provoking.
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Exploderwizard on February 06, 2014, 12:17:29 PM
Quote from: Sacrosanct;729645"D&D: The Sundering"

Ties in with their whole FR deal, as well as referencing all the nerdrage and butthurt Next is provoking.

More like "D&D: The Blundering"

Captures the feeling of nerdrage better.
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Benoist on February 06, 2014, 12:56:20 PM
White Wolf called. It wants its "Game: The Entitling" schtick back. :D
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Sacrosanct on February 06, 2014, 01:44:11 PM
By Edition:

OD&D: Only experienced DMs need rules (and only they can make sense out of them anyway)
AD&D 1e:  Gonna ignore half of these charts anyway
AD&D 2e: Choose from one of 8,324 campaign settings
B/X, BECMI: Who needs detailed rules?  Roll the damn dice and play
3.x: Catered towards rules mastery.  Screw the DM
4e: Special snowflake edition.  Everyone gets a ribbon
5e: TBD
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Bill on February 06, 2014, 02:35:13 PM
Quote from: flyerfan1991;729642Steve Jackson might not be so amused, however.

Better make it DIRPS then.
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Kravell on February 06, 2014, 04:44:07 PM
When play testing started over a year ago the name did bother several play testers. I've been playing a few months now and I no longer notice it. I know I don't like 5th edition as a name.
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Skywalker on February 06, 2014, 05:34:13 PM
It should be "D&D 10,000".

I will be calling it 5e, regardless.
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: YourSwordisMine on February 06, 2014, 06:26:15 PM
Quote from: Sacrosanct;729665By Edition:

OD&D: Only experienced DMs need rules (and only they can make sense out of them anyway)
AD&D 1e:  Gonna ignore half of these charts anyway
AD&D 2e: Choose from one of 8,324 campaign settings
B/X, BECMI: Who needs detailed rules?  Roll the damn dice and play
3.x: Catered towards rules mastery.  Screw the DM
4e: Special snowflake edition.  Everyone gets a ribbon
5e: Can't we all just get along?

FIFM
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Omega on February 06, 2014, 08:20:00 PM
Quote from: YourSwordisMine;729501Would rather have this than the Xtreme nonsense that was pretty popular...

D&D Xtreme would make 4e look OSR, and give Exalted a run for its money...

*shudder* I need some brain bleach now...


The mutated deformed demonic offspring of Exalted and Rifts...

/wrists

D&D Babies, Teen D&D, Kid D&D. Young D&D! I hated that not-brief-enough era of cartoons. Unfortunately its... back.
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: YourSwordisMine on February 06, 2014, 08:27:25 PM
Quote from: Omega;729728D&D Babies, Teen D&D, Kid D&D. Young D&D! I hated that not-brief-enough era of cartoons. Unfortunately its... back.

I'd watch D&D Babies though!

Teen D&D could be fun if done right
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: flyerfan1991 on February 06, 2014, 08:47:08 PM
Quote from: Bill;729679Better make it DIRPS then.

I'd vote for DRIPS, myself.
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Omega on February 06, 2014, 08:56:57 PM
Quote from: S'mon;729603From


Following a launch weekend on February 15-16, 2014, "Scourge of the Sword Coast" ran from February 19, 2014 to May 7, 2014.

Shannon's use of past tense for future events is kinda weird, like he's sitting at the end of the universe looking back over Creation. :D

Obvious railroading!
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Omega on February 06, 2014, 08:59:02 PM
Quote from: Benoist;729662White Wolf called. It wants its "Game: The Entitling" schtick back. :D

That would be D&D: The Looting
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Novastar on February 07, 2014, 12:13:48 AM
D&D: Over 9000!!! Edition
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Sacrosanct on February 07, 2014, 12:23:00 AM
D&D: Revenge of the DM (seeing as how Next is the first edition since AD&D to specifically call out that DMs are the ones running the game and therefore they make the rulings)
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Bill on February 07, 2014, 10:26:40 AM
What about "Return of the DM" ?

After all, 4E removed the dm.....
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Sacrosanct on February 07, 2014, 11:03:04 AM
Quote from: Bill;729816What about "Return of the DM" ?

After all, 4E removed the dm.....

Ha!  Funny coincidence.  I say "Revenge of the DM", and you said "Return of the DM" for the same reasons.  Just like how it was originally "Revenge of the Jedi" and then went to "Return of the Jedi".  :D


Also, not just 4e.  3e made DMing way too much work than it was worth, especially trying to build up higher level NPCs.  It shift the game to torturing the DMs and implementing player entitlement (magic item wishlists, etc)
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Exploderwizard on February 07, 2014, 11:05:47 AM
Quote from: Bill;729816What about "Return of the DM" ?

After all, 4E removed the dm.....

4E (and 3E) did NOT remove the DM. Anyone who has run these systems can tell you.  The rulebooks merely shoved a hand up the DM's ass and declared: "you are my puppet."
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Archangel Fascist on February 07, 2014, 01:10:15 PM
Quote from: Exploderwizard;7298224E (and 3E) did NOT remove the DM. Anyone who has run these systems can tell you.  The rulebooks merely shoved a hand up the DM's ass and declared: "you are my puppet."

I think the whole idea was ultimately less "you are my puppet" and more "here are rules for EVERYTHING, use them if you need them."  Because of the Internet and character optimizers, this got turned into YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THE RULES AND LET ME DO THIS WITH MY CHARACTER.
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Shipyard Locked on February 07, 2014, 01:22:12 PM
Quote from: YourSwordisMine;729731I'd watch D&D Babies though!

Teen D&D could be fun if done right

Here you go :p -

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085011/?ref_=fn_al_tt_7
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: YourSwordisMine on February 07, 2014, 02:27:20 PM
Quote from: Shipyard Locked;729869Here you go :p -

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085011/?ref_=fn_al_tt_7



I said done right...
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Post by: Sacrosanct on February 07, 2014, 02:29:18 PM
Quote from: YourSwordisMine;729885I said done right...

I actually think that cartoon held up better than GI Joe and Transformers.
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Opaopajr on February 07, 2014, 02:47:55 PM
Quote from: Sacrosanct;729820Ha!  Funny coincidence.  I say "Revenge of the DM", and you said "Return of the DM" for the same reasons.  Just like how it was originally "Revenge of the Jedi" and then went to "Return of the Jedi".  :D

Let's split the difference and just go with a play on the pinnacle of that franchise's titles, D&D: the GM Strikes Back.

That said there's always the energy drink tie-ins for mo' money. D&D can work something out with one of them, right? (Wandering) Monster, (PC Build) Rockstar, (Tangency) Go Girl!... one of 'em has gotta work.
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Emperor Norton on February 07, 2014, 02:53:33 PM
Quote from: Sacrosanct;729886I actually think that cartoon held up better than GI Joe and Transformers.

As a huge fan of both GI Joe and Transformers... man those are terrible cartoons. (The Marvel Comics for both were a lot better. And the more modern comics for both are actually really good). The only part of the G1 Transformers cartoon that is worth watching is the '85 Theatrical movie.

(Speaking of which, I've been forever on the hunt for an RPG that I think does people playing transforming robots well :/)
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Bill on February 07, 2014, 03:14:54 PM
Quote from: Sacrosanct;729820Ha!  Funny coincidence.  I say "Revenge of the DM", and you said "Return of the DM" for the same reasons.  Just like how it was originally "Revenge of the Jedi" and then went to "Return of the Jedi".  :D


Also, not just 4e.  3e made DMing way too much work than it was worth, especially trying to build up higher level NPCs.  It shift the game to torturing the DMs and implementing player entitlement (magic item wishlists, etc)

For me this is true; I started out liking 3X but slowly came to loathe it because of record keeping;etc....

Too much work for me anyway.
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Sacrosanct on February 07, 2014, 03:15:02 PM
Quote from: Emperor Norton;729891As a huge fan of both GI Joe and Transformers... man those are terrible cartoons. (The Marvel Comics for both were a lot better. And the more modern comics for both are actually really good). The only part of the G1 Transformers cartoon that is worth watching is the '85 Theatrical movie.

(Speaking of which, I've been forever on the hunt for an RPG that I think does people playing transforming robots well :/)

I agree with all of this.  In fact, I just recently finished rereading all of my GI Joe comics (#1 to about 200 or so) and they hold up SOOOOO much better than the cartoon.  Hell, both recent movies for that matter as well.
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Post by: Exploderwizard on February 07, 2014, 03:17:09 PM
Quote from: YourSwordisMine;729885I said done right...

Whatcho talkin about?  That cartoon was awesome. I own the boxed set. :D

"Abracadavy-united states navy!!"
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Bill on February 07, 2014, 03:18:36 PM
Quote from: Exploderwizard;7298224E (and 3E) did NOT remove the DM. Anyone who has run these systems can tell you.  The rulebooks merely shoved a hand up the DM's ass and declared: "you are my puppet."

I have dmed 4E for years.

I was really making fun of the idea that 4E removed the gm more than supporting it.

I would say, that when there is a rule for everything, including rules on how to gm, rules for 'milestones' rules for 'encounter budgets' etc.. etc...it prods many people toward 'rules are greater than the gm' mentality.

And I demand the gm be greater than the rules.
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Post by: Omega on February 07, 2014, 04:21:14 PM
Quote from: Shipyard Locked;729869Here you go :p -

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085011/?ref_=fn_al_tt_7

No no. That is Teen D&D! And it was still better worlds than Young Conan. ugh
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Omega on February 07, 2014, 04:24:00 PM
Quote from: Emperor Norton;729891As a huge fan of both GI Joe and Transformers... man those are terrible cartoons. (The Marvel Comics for both were a lot better. And the more modern comics for both are actually really good). The only part of the G1 Transformers cartoon that is worth watching is the '85 Theatrical movie.

(Speaking of which, I've been forever on the hunt for an RPG that I think does people playing transforming robots well :/)

Mekton certainly can.
BESM probably can.
RIFTS if you worked on it could.

TSR was way back working on an RPG where you played robots of some sort. But it never saw light.
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Post by: Gizmoduck5000 on February 07, 2014, 05:23:33 PM
Quote from: Sacrosanct;729820Also, not just 4e.  3e made DMing way too much work than it was worth, especially trying to build up higher level NPCs.  It shift the game to torturing the DMs and implementing player entitlement (magic item wishlists, etc)

I hate DMing 3E - it's like auditing your taxes. I don't know why people subject themselves to it.
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Endless Flight on February 07, 2014, 05:24:31 PM
Quote from: Emperor Norton;729891As a huge fan of both GI Joe and Transformers... man those are terrible cartoons. (The Marvel Comics for both were a lot better. And the more modern comics for both are actually really good). The only part of the G1 Transformers cartoon that is worth watching is the '85 Theatrical movie.

(Speaking of which, I've been forever on the hunt for an RPG that I think does people playing transforming robots well :/)

The Transformers Movie is overrated by a lot of people. Once Prime dies, the movie wilts until the last ten minutes when Unicron is destroyed by the Matrix.
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Post by: Shipyard Locked on February 07, 2014, 05:42:00 PM
Quote from: Endless Flight;729933The Transformers Movie is overrated by a lot of people. Once Prime dies, the movie wilts until the last ten minutes when Unicron is destroyed by the Matrix.

I'm surprised that a person currently sporting an Adam West Batman avatar hasn't realized that the Transformers Movie's charm lies mostly in its high camp factor and awesome "what the fuck!?" moments. ;)

I mean, it has a Weird Al music number involving pop-culture burbling junkyard robots voiced by Eric Idle and stuff...
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Post by: Emperor Norton on February 07, 2014, 05:46:38 PM
Quote from: Endless Flight;729933The Transformers Movie is overrated by a lot of people. Once Prime dies, the movie wilts until the last ten minutes when Unicron is destroyed by the Matrix.

Its worth watching, didn't say it was excellent (though I don't think its that as bad as you seem to think it is, its certainly enjoyable). At any rate, puts the actual TV show, and the GI Joe cartoon movie from the same time period to shame. (with the exception of the opening of the GI Joe movie with the ridiculous music and the statue of liberty that had nothing to do with the movie, but was probably the best GI Joe toy commercial ever made).

Honestly, I didn't like the TF cartoons at all much until the latest cartoon (Transformers: Prime). The only thing that kept me liking the franchise was the toys and the comics.
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Post by: Endless Flight on February 07, 2014, 07:22:07 PM
Quote from: Shipyard Locked;729938I'm surprised that a person currently sporting an Adam West Batman avatar hasn't realized that the Transformers Movie's charm lies mostly in its high camp factor and awesome "what the fuck!?" moments. ;)

I mean, it has a Weird Al music number involving pop-culture burbling junkyard robots voiced by Eric Idle and stuff...

Hey, I'm one of the few guys who likes Rodimus Prime better than Optimus Prime. I don't think the movie is all that bad! :D
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Post by: Rincewind1 on February 07, 2014, 07:30:50 PM
Any adult in love with Transformers film is overrating that piece.
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Endless Flight on February 07, 2014, 07:32:53 PM
Quote from: Rincewind1;729967Any adult in love with Transformers film is overrating that piece.

I can barely watch the live-action movies any longer. The new one this summer will probably be absolutely wretched.
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Post by: Rincewind1 on February 07, 2014, 07:38:14 PM
Quote from: Endless Flight;729968I can barely watch the live-action movies any longer. The new one this summer will probably be absolutely wretched.

Well, I really enjoyed the second one, didn't enjoy the first one ( which I watched for some reasons later on). It probably had something to do with the fact that I was on a fourth day of a week long bender with my mates when we went to watch it. I was so hammered I only noticed that I had half my body tanned, half not (I fell asleep on the veranda) two days later.
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Post by: crkrueger on February 07, 2014, 09:21:01 PM
Quote from: Rincewind1;729967Any adult in love with Transformers film is overrating that piece.
The only piece worth watching in Transformers was Megan Fox.
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: S'mon on February 08, 2014, 03:16:40 AM
Quote from: Gizmoduck5000;729932I hate DMing 3E - it's like auditing your taxes. I don't know why people subject themselves to it.

I just started a Pathfinder campaign - 2 sessions in. It is a worry, but a lot of problems go away if you don't worry about them; I have no intention of statting any monsters or NPCs from scratch. I have a couple 'big book of NPC statblock' books I can riff of of, too.  Eg last session a mob of dockworkers were attacking a young aristocrat, for both I just used a 1st level 'soldier' stat block, removed the armour, and gave them d6 weapons (clubs, rapier). I even improvised a special attack where the leader threw a pewter beer mug at a PC's head; that wasn't any harder than in 1e-BX.

With 4e, you can do it the same way, use pre-existing stats; but 4e monster and npc stats are much faster and actually quite fun to create; once you have role & level the game gives you the stats just like pre-3e derives most stats from the hit dice (then assign AC & damage, 4e does that for you too); mostly I'm just thinking up fun special abilities that fit the character or monster.

With the Pathfinder game, the one thing I'm worrying about is running an Adventure Path and having to look up a bunch of spells for high level spellcasting NPCs in the books. This is in theory no different from pre-3e, 1e magic-users also have a bunch of spells and the GM ought to know what they do, but I guess my brain is less flexible and it feels more like work, especially with the 'buff' spells. Also I think perhaps the 'my precious encounter' design in the published adventures puts a load on the GM to understand NPC abilities in order to run the fight 'properly'.
4e doesn't have that prep issue, everything is fully described in the stat block and it's possible to run 19th level spellcasting NPCs without having looked over their stat block in advance (though it helps).
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Omega on February 08, 2014, 05:43:01 AM
Back on topic...

Seems indeed like WOTC plans to market 5th ed as Next.

What is really sad though is that Kaijudo gets a damn cartoon series and D&D doesnt.
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Votan on February 09, 2014, 04:11:37 PM
Quote from: S'mon;730009With the Pathfinder game, the one thing I'm worrying about is running an Adventure Path and having to look up a bunch of spells for high level spellcasting NPCs in the books. This is in theory no different from pre-3e, 1e magic-users also have a bunch of spells and the GM ought to know what they do, but I guess my brain is less flexible and it feels more like work, especially with the 'buff' spells.

I find the combination of spells, feats, buffs, and magic items make it take a while to parse a stat-block.  AD&D (at least when I was really into it) had fewer combinations and I'd memorized a lot of the standard stuff.  I was never able to do the same with late 3E (was okay with core rules) and that shows things a lot.

In a world of endless diversity of nifty effects, there is a lot to be said for the 4E approach.  I wish it made characters feel more fragile, but that is relatively easy to build in if it really bothers somebody.
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Phillip on February 09, 2014, 04:36:23 PM
It'll be NeXT; 6E will be Pippin; 7E will be Newton; 8E will be Lisa; 9E will be Apple III.
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Endless Flight on February 09, 2014, 04:52:50 PM
Just number them like the Superbowls.

Dungeons & Dragons V.

Gives it a regal flair.

:D
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Phillip on February 09, 2014, 04:59:15 PM
Quote from: Opaopajr;729890That said there's always the energy drink tie-ins for mo' money. D&D can work something out with one of them, right? (Wandering) Monster, (PC Build) Rockstar, (Tangency) Go Girl!... one of 'em has gotta work.
They've done soda pop (from Jones Soda) already!
(http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/underwire/2010/05/dd_soda_660.jpg)
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: flyerfan1991 on February 09, 2014, 05:08:49 PM
Quote from: Phillip;730315They've done soda pop (from Jones Soda) already!
(http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/underwire/2010/05/dd_soda_660.jpg)

That Dwarven Draught tasted awesome.  Just sayin'.
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Endless Flight on February 09, 2014, 06:01:17 PM
They would taste better with Elmore art from the boxed sets.

:D
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: JollyRB on February 10, 2014, 08:34:37 PM
My vote is for D&D: Throwback.

And I mean that in the best possible way.
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Mistwell on February 10, 2014, 10:01:58 PM
Just call it Advanced Dungeons and Dragons
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Spinachcat on February 10, 2014, 11:02:19 PM
Quote from: JollyRB;730544My vote is for D&D: Throwback.

So it becomes playable if I throwback enough vodka shots?
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Opaopajr on February 11, 2014, 04:40:13 AM
Well there's that underrepresented music demographic in D&D star fandom: Rap. If we called it D&D:Holla Back we might even get Jay Z to promote it. He was heavily involved in The Great Gatsby remake, you know.
:p
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Ralph The Dog on February 11, 2014, 09:13:45 AM
Quote from: Black Vulmea;729433Serio.

Please, tell me someone with actual marketing experience is gonna put the brakes on this at some point.

Best name the PR folks could come up with, D&D 5th Edition-Start Bitching, tested poorly.
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Sacrosanct on February 11, 2014, 10:46:58 AM
Quote from: Opaopajr;730614Well there's that underrepresented music demographic in D&D star fandom: Rap. If we called it D&D:Holla Back we might even get Jay Z to promote it. He was heavily involved in The Great Gatsby remake, you know.
:p

Ice T is apparently doing audio D&D books remember.... ;)
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Opaopajr on February 11, 2014, 10:50:35 AM
Dammit D&D! Already with the soft drinks and rap stars... I give and I give but apparently you have already done it. What's left, wood burning sets and shrinky dinks?!
:mad:
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Sacrosanct on February 11, 2014, 11:02:21 AM
Quote from: Opaopajr;730666Dammit D&D! Already with the soft drinks and rap stars... I give and I give but apparently you have already done it. What's left, wood burning sets and shrinky dinks?!
:mad:

I'll take the wood burning sets and shrinky dinks if it means I also get cartoons and action figures.
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Emperor Norton on February 11, 2014, 12:05:31 PM
Quote from: Sacrosanct;730670I'll take the wood burning sets and shrinky dinks if it means I also get cartoons and action figures.

http://www.hasbro.com/kre-o/en_US/shop/details.cfm?R=DCA19949-5056-9047-F557-8EEEC30EE9B6:en_US

I'm actually honestly looking forward to this line.
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Black Vulmea on February 14, 2014, 11:24:23 AM
Quote from: Opaopajr;730666What's left, wood burning sets and shrinky dinks?!
Okay, I read that as 'shrinky dicks' on the first pass, which suggested the marketing phrase, 'D&D Next! It's like ice water on your junk!'



Once my brain corrected itself, that gave me an idea: shrinky dink miniatures. Draw your character, and turn it into a plastic mini for the tabletop.

If the polystyrene sheets can survive a trip through a printer, you could copy any image you want onto them.
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: hagbard on February 14, 2014, 01:17:09 PM
Quote from: Black Vulmea;731158Okay, I read that as 'shrinky dicks' on the first pass, which suggested the marketing phrase, 'D&D Next! It's like ice water on your junk!'



Once my brain corrected itself, that gave me an idea: shrinky dink miniatures. Draw your character, and turn it into a plastic mini for the tabletop.

If the polystyrene sheets can survive a trip through a printer, you could copy any image you want onto them.

They do sell shrinky dinks for inkjets:

http://makezine.com/2009/06/26/how-to-shrinky-dink-gaming-minis/ (http://makezine.com/2009/06/26/how-to-shrinky-dink-gaming-minis/)
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Black Vulmea on February 14, 2014, 01:23:29 PM
Quote from: hagbard;731186They do sell shrinky dinks for inkjets . . .
Yup, ordered them about a half-hour ago.
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: hagbard on February 14, 2014, 01:42:13 PM
Quote from: Black Vulmea;731190Yup, ordered them about a half-hour ago.

I've just been using binder clips as stands, but kind of interested in the stands they sell on their site. For larger figures, they probably wouldn't work.
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Omega on February 14, 2014, 10:59:54 PM
Maybee they are teaming up with Pepsi as I just saw today a Pepsi: Next bottle a game member brought in and left by accident.

What happens if you spill Pepsi Next on your D&D Next? Do they alchemically combine to form a homunculus?
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: trechriron on February 15, 2014, 03:25:04 AM
Quote from: Omega;731320...

What happens if you spill Pepsi Next on your D&D Next? Do they alchemically combine to form a homunculus?

No dude. A Nextus!!
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Sacrosanct on February 15, 2014, 08:42:25 AM
Quote from: Omega;731320Maybee they are teaming up with Pepsi as I just saw today a Pepsi: Next bottle a game member brought in and left by accident.

What happens if you spill Pepsi Next on your D&D Next? Do they alchemically combine to form a homunculus?

Next + Next = 6th edition.  Instantly.  For those who don't like D&D Next, all they have to do is pour Pepsi Next on it to go right to 6th edition.
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: Opaopajr on February 15, 2014, 07:21:37 PM
Quote from: hagbard;731186They do sell shrinky dinks for inkjets:

http://makezine.com/2009/06/26/how-to-shrinky-dink-gaming-minis/ (http://makezine.com/2009/06/26/how-to-shrinky-dink-gaming-minis/)

Well, I made squee sounds. Now I'll have to go look at adorable baby animal macros until this phase passes over. Be back eventually.
:o
Title: Is 5e really going to be called D&D Next???
Post by: RPGPundit on February 17, 2014, 12:06:40 AM
I believe that on the cover it will not say "next".