I found one locally for $34.99
A 2 sided gaming mat. It has a Dungeon on one side, and a grid on the other
Extra Pawns to supplement my Bestiary 1 set; including 28 Pawns for PCs and NPCs, from the Core 4 Classes.
Extra Pawn Bases.
Set of 7 Dice.
That stuff alone got me my money's worth; not even counting the Books and Character Sheets.
It's a cool setup.
Quote from: Razor 007;1089594I found one locally for $34.99
A 2 sided gaming mat. It has a Dungeon on one side, and a grid on the other
Extra Pawns to supplement my Bestiary 1 set.
Extra Pawn Bases.
Set of 7 Dice.
That stuff alone got me my money's worth; not even counting the Books and Character Sheets.
It's a cool setup.
I use a Pathfinder gaming mat that's essentially blank on both sides; it takes dry erase markers which are easier to find than wet erase for a vinyl mat. Only slight downside is that they don't sit quite as flat as you might like.
Since I don't play Pathfinder, I wouldn't value the books or character sheets; so most of the value would have to be in the pawns and bases - how Pathfinder specific is the monster art on the pawns? I've considered the Bestiary set for use with D&D 5e but it wouldn't be worth it if the monsters look too different.
Quote from: rawma;1089617how Pathfinder specific is the monster art on the pawns? I've considered the Bestiary set for use with D&D 5e but it wouldn't be worth it if the monsters look too different.
I wouldn't say that art is "Pathfinder-specific" all that much.
Obviously, there's going to be some differences - they can't make their chromatic dragons look exactly like D&D's chromatic dragons, but most of the monsters are generic.
A list of Beginner Box monster pawns is here:
https://paizo.com/products/btpy8osv?Pathfinder-Roleplaying-Game-Beginner-Box
A list of Bestiary Box monster pawns is here:
https://paizo.com/products/btpy8tj5?Pathfinder-Pawns-Bestiary-Box
Quote from: kythri;1089618I wouldn't say that art is "Pathfinder-specific" all that much.
Obviously, there's going to be some differences - they can't make their chromatic dragons look exactly like D&D's chromatic dragons, but most of the monsters are generic.
A list of Beginner Box monster pawns is here:
https://paizo.com/products/btpy8osv?Pathfinder-Roleplaying-Game-Beginner-Box
A list of Bestiary Box monster pawns is here:
https://paizo.com/products/btpy8tj5?Pathfinder-Pawns-Bestiary-Box
Well, i was put off by Pathfinder goblins; they seem to be more like gremlins (from the movies) than goblins. And I realize it's not going to have some monsters I might want for 5e (e.g., the beholder). I'd guess that for many generic monsters it's hard to make something too different - I'm not too concerned with the exact appearance of dragons if they're not outright cartoonish, and I've used figures from a variety of sources (even tolerating significant variation in scale).
So I guess I'm asking:
[LIST=a]
- how many monsters are skewed from pretty much every other game like the goblin?
- how many monsters will I have to explain that the thing that looks like something else is whatever I intend it to represent? (D&D did some odd things with a few monsters, of course, like trolls and gorgons, and I can't blame other games for not matching it. But the point is to convey information without having to explain every round what things are.)
If the answer is too often to either, then I'll keep on with what I'm doing. More useful than a text list of pawns would be a representative sample of specific pawns.
Quote from: rawma;1089624Well, i was put off by Pathfinder goblins; they seem to be more like gremlins (from the movies) than goblins. And I realize it's not going to have some monsters I might want for 5e (e.g., the beholder). I'd guess that for many generic monsters it's hard to make something too different - I'm not too concerned with the exact appearance of dragons if they're not outright cartoonish, and I've used figures from a variety of sources (even tolerating significant variation in scale).
So I guess I'm asking:
[LIST=a]
- how many monsters are skewed from pretty much every other game like the goblin?
- how many monsters will I have to explain that the thing that looks like something else is whatever I intend it to represent? (D&D did some odd things with a few monsters, of course, like trolls and gorgons, and I can't blame other games for not matching it. But the point is to convey information without having to explain every round what things are.)
If the answer is too often to either, then I'll keep on with what I'm doing. More useful than a text list of pawns would be a representative sample of specific pawns.
Maybe this is more to your liking? https://printableheroes.com/minis
Quote from: rawma;1089624Well, i was put off by Pathfinder goblins; they seem to be more like gremlins (from the movies) than goblins. And I realize it's not going to have some monsters I might want for 5e (e.g., the beholder). I'd guess that for many generic monsters it's hard to make something too different - I'm not too concerned with the exact appearance of dragons if they're not outright cartoonish, and I've used figures from a variety of sources (even tolerating significant variation in scale).
So I guess I'm asking:
[LIST=a]
- how many monsters are skewed from pretty much every other game like the goblin?
- how many monsters will I have to explain that the thing that looks like something else is whatever I intend it to represent? (D&D did some odd things with a few monsters, of course, like trolls and gorgons, and I can't blame other games for not matching it. But the point is to convey information without having to explain every round what things are.)
If the answer is too often to either, then I'll keep on with what I'm doing. More useful than a text list of pawns would be a representative sample of specific pawns.
I also found the PF goblins a little too forced in terms of humor; I don't recall any other PF monsters being so different from their D&D analogues, though.
And yeah, the PF starter kit box is a good source of loot; $30 is a bit high, but $10 is a steal for what's in there.
The trick is, price Pawn Bases. They are too expensive, when purchased alone. $10 for a small handful of them.
Then price a 2 sided gaming mat. $13-$15 is pretty common in stores.
A set of 7 dice. These aren't Chessex quality, but they are nicer than the ones in the 5E Starter Set. Just say $5.
Then there are dozens of Pawns too. Not nearly as many as are in the Bestiary Pawn Set; but that set sells for $45 retail.
And it is noteworthy, that there are 28 Pawns which can be used for Player Characters and NPCs, within the Beginner Box Set. 7 each, of the Core 4 Classes. The Bestiary set doesn't include Pawns for PCs or NPCs. The NPC Codex set does.
Where are you shopping?
The base assortment that Paizo sells is $9.99 retail, containing 17 black bases. 10 medium, 5 large and 2 huge, with a blue, red or green (yellow, orange or purple if you buy the Starfinder base assortment) 11th bonus medium. Seems OK to me, and you can find it cheaper online by a buck or two.
Bestiary Box retails for $45, so if you found a local shop selling for $35, they're discounting.
Beginner Box retails for $35. Not saying it's not a good deal for what you get, but it's not like it's a "deal" on list price of the product.
Quote from: kythri;1089642Where are you shopping?
The base assortment that Paizo sells is $9.99 retail, containing 17 black bases. 10 medium, 5 large and 2 huge, with a blue, red or green (yellow, orange or purple if you buy the Starfinder base assortment) 11th bonus medium. Seems OK to me, and you can find it cheaper online by a buck or two.
Bestiary Box retails for $45, so if you found a local shop selling for $35, they're discounting.
Beginner Box retails for $35. Not saying it's not a good deal for what you get, but it's not like it's a "deal" on list price of the product.
Ok, I stand corrected. It's been a while since I purchased the Bestiary Pawn Set. It was $45.
Books-a-Million.
Between the Beginner Box and the Bestiary Box, there are so many useful pawns, I've had to prioritize and organize them; in order to stand a chance of finding the right ones when I need them. It's a big old pile of options, and plenty of bases to use. I can run anything I want to with these; except for Tarrasques, Krakens, Beholders, Mind Flayers, Purple Worms, and large Dinosaurs. They aren't represented.
There is a Giant Squid pawn to use in place of a Kraken, and I have plenty of dinosaur figures already. I have a huge T Rex to use in place of a Tarrasque; so that just leaves Beholders, Mind Flayers, and Purple Worms. Oh well.......
Pawns, pawns, pawns!!!
Quote from: Razor 007;1089736Between the Beginner Box and the Bestiary Box, there are so many useful pawns, I've had to prioritize and organize them; in order to stand a chance of finding the right ones when I need them. It's a big old pile of options, and plenty of bases to use. I can run anything I want to with these; except for Tarrasques, Krakens, Beholders, Mind Flayers, Purple Worms, and large Dinosaurs. They aren't represented.
There is a Giant Squid pawn to use in place of a Kraken, and I have plenty of dinosaur figures already. I have a huge T Rex to use in place of a Tarrasque; so that just leaves Beholders, Mind Flayers, and Purple Worms. Oh well.......
Pawns, pawns, pawns!!!
Huh. Solid recommendation. Have to look into those.
Quote from: GeekyBugle;1089625Maybe this is more to your liking? https://printableheroes.com/minis
That's cool; I created a kludgy system of converting clip art into figures but it's hard to find consistent clip art. Pathfinder pawns would be nicer by being more solid and consistent in style, and take less space if not permanently attached to a base; just trying to balance price against utility.
Quote from: Razor 007;1089736Between the Beginner Box and the Bestiary Box, there are so many useful pawns, I've had to prioritize and organize them; in order to stand a chance of finding the right ones when I need them. It's a big old pile of options, and plenty of bases to use. I can run anything I want to with these; except for Tarrasques, Krakens, Beholders, Mind Flayers, Purple Worms, and large Dinosaurs. They aren't represented.
There is a Giant Squid pawn to use in place of a Kraken, and I have plenty of dinosaur figures already. I have a huge T Rex to use in place of a Tarrasque; so that just leaves Beholders, Mind Flayers, and Purple Worms. Oh well.......
Pawns, pawns, pawns!!!
I might try the Bestiary Box at some point; for PCs and NPCs I've accumulated a representative set of actual figures, and I bought a beholder figure. Really large figures are always a little tough, but they're unique enough that nobody gets confused if you use an arbitrary object of appropriate size.