Guys go for that cheese cake.  It is a Karen and SJW repellent.

Quote from: Chris24601 on March 04, 2021, 12:20:54 PM

Quote from: Greywolf76 on March 04, 2021, 12:00:55 PM
BGG has not surpassed yet, but it's going that way. People who "dared" to defended Tony and Frances (from Ant Lab Games) from the wokemob got banned. Not to mention all the ruckus regarding the "problematic" cover of Tiny Epic Dungeons:

https://techraptor.net/tabletop/news/tiny-epic-dungeons-under-fire-for-problematic-cover-art

(if the hag complaining about TED's artwork ever sees some old AD&D artwork by Caldwell she'd have a stroke!)

I feel dumber for having read that link... and stand by my previous statement; for every bit of woke nonsense like that I read about I add another image of a sexy sorceress in tight leather to my game book.

Caldwell's cover for Dragon #147 was gorgeous and smoking hot and fight me if you don't like it

Quote from: Ghostmaker on March 04, 2021, 02:06:09 PM

Quote from: Chris24601 on March 04, 2021, 12:20:54 PM

Quote from: Greywolf76 on March 04, 2021, 12:00:55 PM
BGG has not surpassed yet, but it's going that way. People who "dared" to defended Tony and Frances (from Ant Lab Games) from the wokemob got banned. Not to mention all the ruckus regarding the "problematic" cover of Tiny Epic Dungeons:

https://techraptor.net/tabletop/news/tiny-epic-dungeons-under-fire-for-problematic-cover-art

(if the hag complaining about TED's artwork ever sees some old AD&D artwork by Caldwell she'd have a stroke!)

I feel dumber for having read that link... and stand by my previous statement; for every bit of woke nonsense like that I read about I add another image of a sexy sorceress in tight leather to my game book.

Caldwell's cover for Dragon #147 was gorgeous and smoking hot and fight me if you don't like it

Dragon #94 was a particular favorite. Not sure of the artist.

Quote from: Snowman0147 on March 04, 2021, 02:02:11 PM
Guys go for that cheese cake.  It is a Karen and SJW repellent.

Yep. Just slap some Caldwell art on your gaming folder and any wokes will go Donald Sutherland in Body Snatchers.

Quote from: RandyB on March 04, 2021, 02:19:25 PM

Quote from: Ghostmaker on March 04, 2021, 02:06:09 PM

Quote from: Chris24601 on March 04, 2021, 12:20:54 PM

Quote from: Greywolf76 on March 04, 2021, 12:00:55 PM
BGG has not surpassed yet, but it's going that way. People who "dared" to defended Tony and Frances (from Ant Lab Games) from the wokemob got banned. Not to mention all the ruckus regarding the "problematic" cover of Tiny Epic Dungeons:

https://techraptor.net/tabletop/news/tiny-epic-dungeons-under-fire-for-problematic-cover-art

(if the hag complaining about TED's artwork ever sees some old AD&D artwork by Caldwell she'd have a stroke!)

I feel dumber for having read that link... and stand by my previous statement; for every bit of woke nonsense like that I read about I add another image of a sexy sorceress in tight leather to my game book.

Caldwell's cover for Dragon #147 was gorgeous and smoking hot and fight me if you don't like it

Dragon #94 was a particular favorite. Not sure of the artist.

That's a Caldwell too

QuoteThe first Clyde Caldwell painting we've published in more than a year is this striking portrait of a female ranger. The model was Jeanne Stanley of WinstonSalem, N.C., who met Clyde when both of them were attending the 1984 GENCON® Game Convention.

Ah, back when Gencon wasn't run by woketards, and ladies didn't mind modeling for artists.

QuoteI feel dumber for having read that link... and stand by my previous statement; for every bit of woke nonsense like that I read about I add another image of a sexy sorceress in tight leather to my game book.

Slaanesh likes it :3

Quote from: Ghostmaker on March 04, 2021, 02:38:15 PM

Quote from: RandyB on March 04, 2021, 02:19:25 PM

Quote from: Ghostmaker on March 04, 2021, 02:06:09 PM

Quote from: Chris24601 on March 04, 2021, 12:20:54 PM

Quote from: Greywolf76 on March 04, 2021, 12:00:55 PM
BGG has not surpassed yet, but it's going that way. People who "dared" to defended Tony and Frances (from Ant Lab Games) from the wokemob got banned. Not to mention all the ruckus regarding the "problematic" cover of Tiny Epic Dungeons:

https://techraptor.net/tabletop/news/tiny-epic-dungeons-under-fire-for-problematic-cover-art

(if the hag complaining about TED's artwork ever sees some old AD&D artwork by Caldwell she'd have a stroke!)

I feel dumber for having read that link... and stand by my previous statement; for every bit of woke nonsense like that I read about I add another image of a sexy sorceress in tight leather to my game book.

Caldwell's cover for Dragon #147 was gorgeous and smoking hot and fight me if you don't like it

Dragon #94 was a particular favorite. Not sure of the artist.

That's a Caldwell too

QuoteThe first Clyde Caldwell painting we've published in more than a year is this striking portrait of a female ranger. The model was Jeanne Stanley of WinstonSalem, N.C., who met Clyde when both of them were attending the 1984 GENCON® Game Convention.

Ah, back when Gencon wasn't run by woketards, and ladies didn't mind modeling for artists.

It looked like his style, but I wasn't sure enough to make the claim.

Quote from: Ghostmaker on March 03, 2021, 10:39:03 AM

Quote from: RPGPundit on March 03, 2021, 09:29:12 AM
Well, I did warn him.

Is it a perma, or just a time out and threadban?

I'm not going to argue either way. I'm just curious.

(I would suggest we need an Infractions forum, but honestly, who wants to emulate TBP?)

Bans here are always permanent.

This thread deserves a special award, since it made me look up Mandy Muse, Dragon 147, and Jeremiad.

I never really visited EnWorld much, but I stopped entirely when the mods posted that criticizing SJW or wokeness was a bannable offense. It used to be in a sticky at the top of the forum, but I don't see it there now.

I never knew the Harlot Table existed before the EnWorld thread. Slovenly Trull is one of the funniest things I have ever read. It's even funnier because as far as I can tell there's no such slang term as trull, (but there probably should be).

My Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay Group has just reached Marienburg and if anyone doesn't think they are going to meet a slovenly trull in the next session, well they just haven't been paying attention.

I am actually factually, literally, crying with laughter over the harlot table. The follow up with saucy tart...it's so ridiculous.

Quote from: Visitor Q on March 04, 2021, 09:21:47 PM
I never knew the Harlot Table existed before rhe EnWorld thread. Slovenly Trull is one of the funniest things I have ever read. It's even funnier because as far as I can tell there's no such slang term as trull, (but there probably should be).

From Wiktionary:
    1749, Henry Fielding, Tom Jones, Folio Society 1973, p. 365:
        'Hark'ee, child,' says she, 'is not that very young gentleman now in bed with some nasty trull or other?'

    1888, Rudyard Kipling, 'Dray Wara Yow Dee', Black and White, Folio Society 2004, vol. 1, p. 369:
        South of Delhi, Sahib, you know the saying—'Rats are the men and trulls the women.'

Gygax had a fascination with archaic words, from croodle to dweomercraft to flatchet to trull.

  Check the way the OP of that thread phrases a post a little further down the page:

QuoteHere are two quick examples that illustrate my comment above. Two pieces I recently had commissioned. Both were diverse artists I had hired. One is an artist of Mesoamerican heritage, doing a piece inspired from their culture. The other is from an African American, but his dress is wholly European. I should have caught that and did better.

In other words these INDIVIDUAL artists are DIVERSE because they are not white. And the African American's art didn't hold up because it still looked too white.
This is comedy & cringe (did I just come up with a new RPG name there?)

Quote from: Pat on March 04, 2021, 10:27:29 PM

Quote from: Visitor Q on March 04, 2021, 09:21:47 PM
I never knew the Harlot Table existed before rhe EnWorld thread. Slovenly Trull is one of the funniest things I have ever read. It's even funnier because as far as I can tell there's no such slang term as trull, (but there probably should be).

From Wiktionary:
    1749, Henry Fielding, Tom Jones, Folio Society 1973, p. 365:
        'Hark'ee, child,' says she, 'is not that very young gentleman now in bed with some nasty trull or other?'

    1888, Rudyard Kipling, 'Dray Wara Yow Dee', Black and White, Folio Society 2004, vol. 1, p. 369:
        South of Delhi, Sahib, you know the saying—'Rats are the men and trulls the women.'

Gygax had a fascination with archaic words, from croodle to dweomercraft to flatchet to trull.

Thanks for these references. Every day is a school day. That's fantastic.
I don't know why but that has properly tickled me. I'm still laughing today. I probably need to get out more, but you know lockdown and everything.

I did know Gygax was into his archaic words so I probably should have spent a bit longer searching. I remember a pretty crazy table of all kinds of different obscure polearm variations.

The EnWorld thread is quite daft. The premise alone is pretty much ripped from the pages of 1984. This kind of thing used to wind me up but tbh these days I work under the assumption that very few of these people actually regularly play so their opinions are more or less irrelevant.

The sad and perhaps ironic thing is if the SJW would never have mentioned the HArlot table, no one for the most part would have remembered it. Given how many charts were in the 1E DMG I sure as he'll did not remember it. Imo most gamers as well.  So if anything they may have just made other gamers want to buy the book or renew interest in 1E.

That ENworld thread and as a whole the site is a clusterfuck full of self righteous SJWs who if your straight white gamer have no say in anything or everything related to gaming. No loss for myself if l no longer visit that forum. It is interesting to re SJW hypocrisy in action. The artist has to be POC and anything he draws is approved unless he draws only a very certain specific approved way.

I bet Sacrosanct must be absolutely livid about all the D&D-influenced anime that are appropriating Hollywood depictions of pseudo-medieval pseudo-European pseudo-culture.

Is the art of the two "Mesoamerican"* adventurers even accurate to any real culture? If you're going to prize being authentic, then it would probably help to be actually authentic.

* Mesoamerica is not a culture. It is a region that has been home to numerous cultures. Aztecs, Mayans, Toltecs, Olmecs, etc. These cultures are not interchangeable and acting if they are is... racist? Is racist the right term here? What do you call someone being ignorant of the difference between, say, Germans and Indians but unwilling to learn the difference while at the same time advocating for the rights of Indo-European peoples?

I expect this from creators who wanted some exotic flavor and weren't trying to depict any real culture, much less in a remotely accurate fashion. But from activists who claim to care about other cultures? It's obnoxious hypocrisy.