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Title: I dont like running Fantasy
Post by: NYTFLYR on June 08, 2007, 03:23:59 PM
I just came to the realization I dont like running Fantasy games, specifically high fantasy games, D&D, Palladium, Fantasy Hero, etc... however I like to play in them.

It seems I would much rather run a Pulp game or a Cyberpunk game
Title: I dont like running Fantasy
Post by: Mcrow on June 08, 2007, 03:28:40 PM
Quote from: NYTFLYRI just came to the realization I dont like running Fantasy games, specifically high fantasy games, D&D, Palladium, Fantasy Hero, etc... however I like to play in them.

It seems I would much rather run a Pulp game or a Cyberpunk game


I'm with ya.:D

I don't like running Fantasy, but I'll play in one anytime. OTOH, I love running and playing Sci-fi or Horror. :what:
Title: I dont like running Fantasy
Post by: Hackmaster on June 08, 2007, 03:30:53 PM
Huh. I've got a bit of an opposite feeling myself. I like to run fantasy more than other generes, mostly because you can do a lot of handwaving and say "It's magic". With things like sci-fi, or even cyberpunk, I find my players expecting more verisimilitude and get fed up quickly. I love playing in sci-fi and cyberpunk, but have trouble running them.

Pulp, I just don't get, on either side of the table.
Title: I dont like running Fantasy
Post by: Skyrock on June 08, 2007, 03:31:22 PM
Wow, what a realization. I guess that interests everyone...

More constructive: What isn't High Fantasy giving you that you can get out of cyberpunk and pulp? Are it purely aesthetic reasons, or is there something more profound? And have you tried other kinds of fantasy? (Sword&sorcery, low magic, ancient tales, what do I know...)
Title: I dont like running Fantasy
Post by: James McMurray on June 08, 2007, 03:33:42 PM
I'd like to make a suggestion if I could:

don't run fantasy. ;)
Title: I dont like running Fantasy
Post by: NYTFLYR on June 08, 2007, 03:35:30 PM
Quote from: SkyrockWow, what a realization. I guess that interests everyone...

More constructive: What isn't High Fantasy giving you that you can get out of cyberpunk and pulp? Are it purely aesthetic reasons, or is there something more profound? And have you tried other kinds of fantasy? (Sword&sorcery, low magic, ancient tales, what do I know...)

maybe its the background. I'm a history buff as such a lot of the work for games based on the old west, the middle ages or the 1930s has already been done. for cyberpunk, its just an extension of the current world

then again maybe its the power level, becasue I like WHFRP, but Im not sure if that is it either becasue I like Super hero games...
Title: I dont like running Fantasy
Post by: NYTFLYR on June 08, 2007, 03:36:33 PM
Quote from: James McMurrayI'd like to make a suggestion if I could:

don't run fantasy. ;)

well as soon as my current D&D game is over Ill take your suggestion :D
Title: I dont like running Fantasy
Post by: Lacrioxus on June 09, 2007, 06:50:44 AM
When ever I run a "Fantasy" setting game, I always end up introducing Super-Ultra-High-Tech anyways. So I can relate. Generic Fantasy bores me to tears to run. But I do not mind Playing it.

I've been looking into IRON HEROES a Low Magic Fantasy Setting to see how I'd like that. I am a HUGE Dark*Sun fan, and I loved it's lower magic levels and gritty setting. Maybe Iron Heroes will fill that need somewhat.

I've also been looking into Ravenloft. I used to love the old version playing it. Never ran it though. Might end up buying AD&D version and the WW's D20 version to check it out better.

I normally run SCI_FI games myself or Supers or Supernatural Horror games. (White Wolf oWoD, Aberrant, Adventure!, Buffy-Angel, CP2020, GURPS).
Title: I dont like running Fantasy
Post by: Lacrioxus on June 09, 2007, 07:05:50 AM
Hey I'd suggest trying LOW Fantasy instead of High Fantasy to see if it is just Fantasy in general.

http://www.montecook.com/cgi-bin/page.cgi?iron-lore

New Home Site : http://www.fierydragon.com/ironheroes

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Title: I dont like running Fantasy
Post by: Skyrock on June 09, 2007, 07:26:09 AM
Quote from: NYTFLYRmaybe its the background. I'm a history buff
OK... In that case, I can understand how knights with plate-mail and two-handed swords fighting Elves with fedoras, rapiers and English longbows can drive someone completely crazy ;)
Title: I dont like running Fantasy
Post by: grubman on June 09, 2007, 10:47:28 AM
I find myself always coming back to fantasy.  Often I'll go on a tangent in another genre, start writing and adventure, and then realize I can do it better with fantasy and change over.  I guess it's because I always like a bit of the fantastic or "supernatural" in all my adventures.  I also like the simplicity of fantasy, as far as technology and such...probably why I prefer Star Wars for Science fiction (Sci fantasy) as opposed to "harder" games like Traveler.
Title: I dont like running Fantasy
Post by: Lacrioxus on June 09, 2007, 11:37:54 AM
Quote from: grubmanI find myself always coming back to fantasy.  Often I'll go on a tangent in another genre, start writing and adventure, and then realize I can do it better with fantasy and change over.  I guess it's because I always like a bit of the fantastic or "supernatural" in all my adventures.  I also like the simplicity of fantasy, as far as technology and such...probably why I prefer Star Wars for Science fiction (Sci fantasy) as opposed to "harder" games like Traveler.

I know what you mean grubman.

In my Sci-Fi game I always introduce "magic" of some sort, Monsters as Alien races of course. In Fantasy I introduce the tech aspects here and there somehow. Sci-Fantasy is a great tag. Thank you grubman.
Title: I dont like running Fantasy
Post by: Greentongue on June 09, 2007, 12:10:48 PM
Quote from: LacrioxusIn my Sci-Fi game I always introduce "magic" of some sort, Monsters as Alien races of course. In Fantasy I introduce the tech aspects here and there somehow. Sci-Fantasy is a great tag.
Sci-Fantasy:
Empire of the Petal Throne (http://www.tekumel.com/gaming_rulesEPT.html)
Genre mashing par excellence.
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Title: I dont like running Fantasy
Post by: Aos on June 09, 2007, 02:29:27 PM
All my fantasy games turn into science fantasy as well. i just like the gonzo anyhting goes nature of the genre.

Jack Vance's Dying Earth is a really good example of fiction thaat blends fantasy and science fiction elements.
Title: I dont like running Fantasy
Post by: beejazz on June 09, 2007, 02:51:24 PM
Yeah... I can't seem to play either game straight. I end up wanting guns and robots and stuff in my fantasy games and magic (psionics) and melee in my scifi.
Title: I dont like running Fantasy
Post by: Lacrioxus on June 09, 2007, 03:16:05 PM
We need to form a Support Group for Sci-Fantasy GMs/groups.

;) :D

>stands up<
Hi, I'm Lacrioxus. I like Sci-Fantasy gaming. Science, magic, psionics all in one setting.
I let my group kill a Great Wyrm Red Dragon with a Rocket Launcher a few magic missiles and a Lightsaber oh and a psi-sword.
:D
Title: I dont like running Fantasy
Post by: David R on June 09, 2007, 10:40:09 PM
Quote from: GreentongueSci-Fantasy:
Empire of the Petal Throne (http://www.tekumel.com/gaming_rulesEPT.html)
Genre mashing par excellence.
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//www.jorune.org

Tales of Gargenthir:
http://www.philm.demon.co.uk/Miscellaneous/Gargentihr_Review.html

Regards,
David R
Title: I dont like running Fantasy
Post by: peteramthor on June 09, 2007, 11:41:33 PM
I don't like running fantasy that much myself.  But my players really love the fantasy games that I run and have a great time.  That coupled with the fact that I have a lot of fantasy game ideas and I constantly think of material for fantasy worlds is why I still run a fantasy game.

Preferred games to run include Cyberpunk as well but the player base isn't quite so into it.  Used to love running modern horror but I burnt out on that.

But fantasy seems to be the standard that everyone wants to play.  Hell I want to play fantasy but nobody else wants to run it either.
Title: I dont like running Fantasy
Post by: J Arcane on June 09, 2007, 11:45:34 PM
Star Wars man.  Star Wars is nothing but Eastern fantasy with a sprinkling of Roman Empire, tossed into a galaxy far far away.

Or if you realyl wanna go further, grab yourself a copy of the Space Usagi graphic novel, and let your imagination run wild.