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"I don't like game x, but product Y for it is great."

Started by Dominus Nox, April 07, 2007, 10:40:49 PM

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Dr Rotwang!

I equate Star Wars d20 to a very expensive and unintentionally hilarious accident, like if a couple of physics students tied helium baloons to a chicken and the chicken just ran around squawking madly and the dudes were screaming, "BUT THEY'RE BOTH BUOYANT!"  But brother, that Galactic Campaign Guide is aces.
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ColonelHardisson

I'm not a fan of GURPS as a game, but many of the sourcebooks are really useful and interesting. In many, many cases, they are the only RPG treatments I'm aware of for a lot of different settings. Alan Dean Foster's "Humanx" series, the Horseclans series, and even the TV show the Prisoner(!) have had a GURPS sourcebook, as well as a whole slew of other such shows and books. In that regard, GURPS rules. It's too bad there aren't similar sourcebooks for games I actually like.

Plus, GURPS has some really good generic sourcebooks, useful for just about any game. The two that spring to mind are the recent hardbacks of Fantasy and Infinite Worlds. Chock-full of ideas useful in any game.
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Caesar Slaad

Quote from: Dominus NoxSome people here may dislike gurps but maybe there's a gurps product they like for some reason? If so say so.

Oh, absolutely. I think GURPS as a system is ass, but find that various iterations of GURPS Space make great SF-gaming bibles regardless of system, I find GURPS First In to be the definitive world design sourcebook for Traveller, and find many other GURPS Trav setting related books nice, well though out expansions for Traveller.

TNE is a wart on the butt of Traveller, but Fire, Fuzion, and Steel is pure gearhead heaven.
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Planning: Some Cyberpunk thing, system TBD.

Settembrini

Oh, come on, Ceasar, don´t forget the Wolrd Builder´s Handbook. That´s great stuff, too.
If there can\'t be a TPK against the will of the players it\'s not an RPG.- Pierce Inverarity

Koltar

Quote from: SettembriniOh, come on, Ceasar, don´t forget the Wolrd Builder´s Handbook. That´s great stuff, too.

 Not really. We've got one at the store that just sits there. Lots of tables and charts that go nowhere.

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This is what a really cool FANTASY RPG should be like :
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Claudius

I don't like D&D much, but there are two sourcebooks I have to recommend two sourcebooks for it: "A Magical Medieval Society: Western Europe" and "A Magical Society: Ecology and Culture", published by Expeditious Retreat Press under the d20 licence. I think a lot of things published under d20 are crap (and I don't say this because I don't like D&D, if I liked D&D I would think the same, as many people who like D&D do), but it's good to see that there are some jewels hidden in the d20 ocean.
Grając zaś w grę komputerową, być może zdarzyło się wam zapragnąć zejść z wyznaczonej przez autorów ścieżki i, miast zabić smoka i ożenić się z księżniczką, zabić księżniczkę i ożenić się ze smokiem.

Nihil sine magno labore vita dedit mortalibus.

And by your sword shall you live and serve thy brother, and it shall come to pass when you have dominion, you will break Jacob's yoke from your neck.

Dios, que buen vasallo, si tuviese buen señor!

Claudius

Quote from: KoltarNot really. We've got one at the store that just sits there. Lots of tables and charts that go nowhere.

- Ed C.
Is it a one of the sourcebooks Gary Gygax wrote recently about world building? I had a look at them in a game store, but I didn't think much of them.

Of course, I might be wrong, as I didn't read them.
Grając zaś w grę komputerową, być może zdarzyło się wam zapragnąć zejść z wyznaczonej przez autorów ścieżki i, miast zabić smoka i ożenić się z księżniczką, zabić księżniczkę i ożenić się ze smokiem.

Nihil sine magno labore vita dedit mortalibus.

And by your sword shall you live and serve thy brother, and it shall come to pass when you have dominion, you will break Jacob's yoke from your neck.

Dios, que buen vasallo, si tuviese buen señor!

Drew

I'm lukewarm at best toward D&D, but Book of Nine Swords is superb.
 

Caesar Slaad

Quote from: SettembriniOh, come on, Ceasar, don´t forget the Wolrd Builder´s Handbook. That´s great stuff, too.

It is pretty good. I particularly find the tech, sociology, and mapping sections good, albeit that the religion section is pretty stupid.

But when it comes right down to it, WBH is built on the CT/MT basic world design tables, which have several severely flawed abstractions when it comes to  planetography and astrophysics, in particular, atmosphere and hydrosphere assumptions. Without correcting those, WBH sort of goes off track.
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Running: Pathfinder Scarred Lands, Mutants & Masterminds, Masks, Starfinder, Bulldogs!
Playing: Sigh. Nothing.
Planning: Some Cyberpunk thing, system TBD.

Caesar Slaad

Quote from: KoltarNot really. We've got one at the store that just sits there. Lots of tables and charts that go nowhere.

Really? World Builder's Handbook by Digest Group Publications? That's something of a Traveller collector's item. If it's a fresh copy and at a reasonable price for the retailer and for shipping, I'd be glad to pick it up.
The Secret Volcano Base: my intermittently updated RPG blog.

Running: Pathfinder Scarred Lands, Mutants & Masterminds, Masks, Starfinder, Bulldogs!
Playing: Sigh. Nothing.
Planning: Some Cyberpunk thing, system TBD.

Koltar

Quote from: Caesar SlaadReally? World Builder's Handbook by Digest Group Publications? That's something of a Traveller collector's item. If it's a fresh copy and at a reasonable price for the retailer and for shipping, I'd be glad to pick it up.


 Thought you referring to a Gygax book - sorry
The return of \'You can\'t take the Sky From me!\'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUn-eN8mkDw&feature=rec-fresh+div

This is what a really cool FANTASY RPG should be like :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-WnjVUBDbs

Still here, still alive, at least Seven years now...

jrients

Yeah, I dig GURPS sourcebooks, too.  Even though I don't much care for the game.  Nearly every local gamer I know has at least one GURPS book on a pet subject.

I'm not a huge fan of Sorcerer but Sorcerer & Sword is one of my alltime favorite supplements.
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Bradford C. Walker

I have a love-hate relationship with Palladium Books in general, and I'm not the biggest fan of the Palladium Fantasy RPG, but I adore and shan't ever part with my copy of Adventures in the Northern Wilderness because those modules (as well as the bare-bones Wolfen Empire setting information)--especially "The Forest of Broken Wings"--are some of my favorites.  Love them; hate the line they're put under.  I'm often tempted to convert them to D&D 3.5 or Exalted.

mysterycycle

I'm not really a WoD guy, and the Dark Ages line interested me even less, but when I flipped through Dark Ages: Inquisitor, I thought, It must be MINE!

Likewise, I've never actually played Ars Magica - despite owning the 4th Edition book and having owned 2nd and 3rd editions - but aside from GURPS books, ArsM supplements remain my most coveted reference books.