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How to Fix Gurps

Started by KrakaJak, July 10, 2011, 07:23:41 AM

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ggroy

#135
April 19, 2012, 01:28:05 AM
Quote from: Shawn Driscoll;531544When I was young and playing early RPGs like Runequest, I was like the replicant Leo in Blade Runner.  I didn't know anything about medieval settings.  I didn't know what a paladin was or what chaotic meant, etc. The DM would tell me to role-play my character and I had no idea what that meant really.

Same here, but even the DM (usually one of us) was just as equally clueless about various aspects of D&D, fantasy literature, etc ...

I was more into cheesy sci-fi and space operas back then, like Star Trek, the original Battlestar Galactica, Buck Rogers, Star Wars, etc ...

If I had come across the Traveller rpg back then, I think I probably would have been really into it.

Marleycat

#136
April 19, 2012, 01:43:17 AM Last Edit: April 19, 2012, 01:46:20 AM by Marleycat
Quote from: ggroy;531551Same here, but even the DM (usually one of us) was just as equally clueless about various aspects of D&D, fantasy literature, etc ...

I was more into cheesy sci-fi and space operas back then, like Star Trek, the original Battlestar Galactica, Buck Rogers, Star Wars, etc ...

If I had come across the Traveller rpg back then, I think I probably would have been really into it.

I would say I was exactly the same, luckily Jeff, a regular poster here gave me Traveller and what I have read so far is awesome. It makes for a great game of Serenity or Alien ......
Don\'t mess with cats we kill wizards in one blow.;)

Shawn Driscoll

#137
April 19, 2012, 02:55:30 AM
Quote from: Marleycat;531556I would say I was exactly the same, luckily Jeff, a regular poster here gave me Traveller and what I have read so far is awesome. It makes for a great game of Serenity or Alien ......

I've heard rumors that Joss Whedon played Traveller and that inspired him to create Firefly's setting.

Simlasa

#138
April 19, 2012, 02:57:15 AM
Quote from: Shawn Driscoll;531512The keywords "starting game".  Tell a wargaming now to play Ogre.
Well, I think you're just plain wrong about that one. The guys I know (and plenty of folks I've read talking about it) would be happy to play. I can't think of when I've ever seen people talk bad about it.
I'm not saying it's a big-daddy of chit & hex games... but it's certainly not the 'play-a-few-times-and-forget-about-it' thing you suggest. Neither is 40K... another 'starting game' for a lot of wargamers (though quite a few bitch about that one).

'Starting Game' doesn't seem to have the same shit-stink on it for wargamers as it does for some roleplayers... 'that game I shunned long ago...'

Marleycat

#139
April 19, 2012, 03:00:47 AM
Quote from: Shawn Driscoll;531577I've heard rumors that Joss Whedon played Traveller and that inspired him to create Firefly's setting.

Very cool if true, either way it's a perfect fit. And you only need the basic book to do it.
Don\'t mess with cats we kill wizards in one blow.;)

Shawn Driscoll

#140
April 19, 2012, 03:09:06 AM
Quote from: Simlasa;531578Well, I think you're just plain wrong about that one. The guys I know (and plenty of folks I've read talking about it) would be happy to play. I can't think of when I've ever seen people talk bad about it.
I'm not saying it's a big-daddy of chit & hex games... but it's certainly not the 'play-a-few-times-and-forget-about-it' thing you suggest. Neither is 40K... another 'starting game' for a lot of wargamers (though quite a few bitch about that one).

'Starting Game' doesn't seem to have the same shit-stink on it for wargamers as it does for some roleplayers... 'that game I shunned long ago...'

I like Orge.  I don't hate it.  I just prefer more advanced wargames when having to choose one to play.  If someone is dying to play Orge, I'll play also.  I never heard anyone bitch about Warhammer 40K except for how GW handles their selling of the game to resellers.

Shawn Driscoll

#141
April 19, 2012, 03:12:25 AM
Quote from: Marleycat;531579Very cool if true, either way it's a perfect fit. And you only need the basic book to do it.

I have the Serenity role-playing game, the game screen, and all the modules and maps for it.  I'll probably give it away if I don't ever play the thing in the next few years.  The rules did not scream "play me!"

Simlasa

#142
April 19, 2012, 03:45:37 AM
I kind of wish that SJG would sell GURPS if they don't see any value in keeping it alive. I don't think it needs a big makeover or anything... just some loving care and some marketable direction (such as the genre/setting/system books everyone keeps suggesting)... and getting it out from under the paws of the fans who keep trying to make it into a doctoral dissertation on engineering/physics/ballistics.


Quote from: Shawn Driscoll;531581I never heard anyone bitch about Warhammer 40K except for how GW handles their selling of the game to resellers.
We must travel in different corners of the intertubes then... from what I've seen 40K gets more grief than just about any other wargame... for the rules as well as GW's corporate corporateness. Not that most of those complaining won't keep on playing it anyway... because it's so damn ubiquitous.

James Gillen

#143
April 19, 2012, 03:54:04 AM
Quote from: Shawn Driscoll;531495But Steve Jackson likes to publish stuff that he wants to buy.  Not what customers ask for.  Plus, he doesn't have anyone to write the books we all want to buy.  And for a reason.

I'm still waiting for them to put out GURPS Steve Jackson.

JG
-My own opinion is enough for me, and I claim the right to have it defended against any consensus, any majority, anywhere, any place, any time. And anyone who disagrees with this can pick a number, get in line and kiss my ass.
 -Christopher Hitchens
-Be very very careful with any argument that calls for hurting specific people right now in order to theoretically help abstract people later.
-Daztur

James Gillen

#144
April 19, 2012, 03:56:06 AM
Quote from: Simlasa;531593I kind of wish that SJG would sell GURPS if they don't see any value in keeping it alive. I don't think it needs a big makeover or anything... just some loving care and some marketable direction (such as the genre/setting/system books everyone keeps suggesting)... and getting it out from under the paws of the fans who keep trying to make it into a doctoral dissertation on engineering/physics/ballistics.

I think SJG is keeping it about as alive as they can given economic circumstances.

JG
-My own opinion is enough for me, and I claim the right to have it defended against any consensus, any majority, anywhere, any place, any time. And anyone who disagrees with this can pick a number, get in line and kiss my ass.
 -Christopher Hitchens
-Be very very careful with any argument that calls for hurting specific people right now in order to theoretically help abstract people later.
-Daztur

Shawn Driscoll

#145
April 19, 2012, 04:00:29 AM
Quote from: Simlasa;531593We must travel in different corners of the intertubes then... from what I've seen 40K gets more grief than just about any other wargame... for the rules as well as GW's corporate corporateness. Not that most of those complaining won't keep on playing it anyway... because it's so damn ubiquitous.

Oh, ok.  I only hear about Warhammer 40K from the players at the tables when I'm in the game stores.  I don't belong to any 40K forums.

Marleycat

#146
April 19, 2012, 04:02:14 AM
Quote from: Shawn Driscoll;531582I have the Serenity role-playing game, the game screen, and all the modules and maps for it.  I'll probably give it away if I don't ever play the thing in the next few years.  The rules did not scream "play me!"

Traveller does it better anyway.:)
Don\'t mess with cats we kill wizards in one blow.;)

Shawn Driscoll

#147
April 19, 2012, 04:02:16 AM
Quote from: James Gillen;531596I'm still waiting for them to put out GURPS Steve Jackson.

Or settle for the Chez Geek games.

Shawn Driscoll

#148
April 19, 2012, 04:07:23 AM Last Edit: April 19, 2012, 04:20:09 AM by Shawn Driscoll
Quote from: James Gillen;531597I think SJG is keeping it about as alive as they can given economic circumstances.

The CIA or FBI (I forget) left a bad vibe on him.  He had enough with lawyers.  Another event roll like that one would finish SJGames.  He just never recovered fully game-spirit wise.  Just kept an aloof presence about anything.

Working with the CIA, FBI, or NCIS is never fun.  Unless you have very high bureaucrat skills.

Shawn Driscoll

#149
April 19, 2012, 04:09:04 AM
Quote from: Marleycat;531603Traveller does it better anyway.:)

I'm keeping my Mongoose Traveller for sure.  I play that one.  Not as much as GURPS though.
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