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How Tabletop RPGs Are Being Reclaimed From Bigots and Jerks

Started by Gagarth, March 15, 2021, 12:17:10 PM

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yabaziou

If those jerks at Evil Hat are those who define what is a bigot, I am glad that I am French and that most of my fellow French rpg players loathe Fate with a burning passion. What my eyes saw is so fucking stupid that I will start playing AD&D 1 raw and finding the sweet release of Death in the process.
My Tumblr blog : http://yabaziou.tumblr.com/

Currently reading : 13th Age, Cypher System, Polaris

Currently planning : Project Scourge : the battle for the Soul of Mankind using 13th Age

Currently playing : The Chronicles of the Devouring Lands using D&D 5.

BoxCrayonTales

I noticed nowadays that every single article that mentions the Cthulhu mythos goes out of its way to mention that HPL was "garbage." It's gotten tiring. I don't understand why these SJWs are so obsessed with hating dead people.

Shasarak

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales on March 29, 2021, 09:08:52 PM
I don't understand why these SJWs are so obsessed with hating dead people.

Its much easier to punch down at dead people.
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pathetically struggling,
look at the good things you've got! -  Jesus

yabaziou

Quote from: Shasarak on March 30, 2021, 12:18:39 AM
Quote from: BoxCrayonTales on March 29, 2021, 09:08:52 PM
I don't understand why these SJWs are so obsessed with hating dead people.

Its much easier to punch down at dead people.

With HP Lovecraft, it is even better since he left no child to defend his good name and reputation.
My Tumblr blog : http://yabaziou.tumblr.com/

Currently reading : 13th Age, Cypher System, Polaris

Currently planning : Project Scourge : the battle for the Soul of Mankind using 13th Age

Currently playing : The Chronicles of the Devouring Lands using D&D 5.

Reckall

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales on March 29, 2021, 09:08:52 PM
I noticed nowadays that every single article that mentions the Cthulhu mythos goes out of its way to mention that HPL was "garbage." It's gotten tiring. I don't understand why these SJWs are so obsessed with hating dead people.

Because Lovecraft was and still is consistently successful all-around, even among those that he "offended" (Alan Moore, speaking of his "Providence", noticed how Lovecraft was never as successful as in recent times). Such concept is heretic and thus must be ripped down.
For every idiot who denounces Ayn Rand as "intellectualism" there is an excellent DM who creates a "Bioshock" adventure.

Gagarth

Quote from: HappyDaze on March 20, 2021, 03:18:45 PM
I haven't read MyFarog, but I know a bit about Pendragon and I'm OK with it's European focus.

Pendragon has Saracen (Zazamanc) and Hun (queue debate on the origin of the Huns) Homelands and doesn't deny the existence of the rest of the world.  But wait for 6th edition I am sure Lancelot will be a lesbian Sub-Saharan West African.
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Gagarth

Anybody up for an Amerindian supremacy RPG? https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/connoralexander/coyote-and-crow

QuoteIf you have a problem with a game where there are no people of European descent represented, than this game is probably not for you.
'Don't join us. Work hard, get good degrees, join the Establishment and serve our cause from within.' Harry Pollitt - Communist Party GB

"Don't worry about the election, Trump's not gonna win. I made f*cking sure of that!" Eric Coomer -  Dominion Voting Systems Officer of Strategy and Security

Ratman_tf

Quote from: Gagarth on March 30, 2021, 07:38:14 AM
Anybody up for an Amerindian supremacy RPG? https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/connoralexander/coyote-and-crow

QuoteIf you have a problem with a game where there are no people of European descent represented, than this game is probably not for you.

Under different circumstances, I might be interested.

But under these circumstances, I bet the game is chockablock full of pandering woke ideology.
The notion of an exclusionary and hostile RPG community is a fever dream of zealots who view all social dynamics through a narrow keyhole of structural oppression.
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Chris24601

Quote from: Gagarth on March 30, 2021, 07:38:14 AM
Anybody up for an Amerindian supremacy RPG? https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/connoralexander/coyote-and-crow
We hashed that out a few pages back on the "Fat Self Care RPG" thread.

Bottom line, if it looks like a shit sandwich and it smells like a shit sandwich, I have no desire to bite down and confirm it's a shit sandwich like certain posters with their "don't judge until it's out" attitude.

Note that, if you don't believe in IP piracy, the only way to actually fairly judge versus having to take someone's word for it would be to have to BUY it... in which case you're enabling shit.

Instead, I'm going with "the God worshipped throughout most of the history of Western civilization gave me reason, deduction and the ability to make judgment calls based on available evidence" and that all evidence right now is it's going to be a shit sandwich.

You want to convince me otherwise, YOU buy the book for me so I can review it. I'm not dropping a red cent on a book by someone who's made plain they hate me and everything I believe in.

BoxCrayonTales

Quote from: Ratman_tf on March 30, 2021, 08:21:28 AM
Quote from: Gagarth on March 30, 2021, 07:38:14 AM
Anybody up for an Amerindian supremacy RPG? https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/connoralexander/coyote-and-crow

QuoteIf you have a problem with a game where there are no people of European descent represented, than this game is probably not for you.

Under different circumstances, I might be interested.

But under these circumstances, I bet the game is chockablock full of pandering woke ideology.
And the irony is that historical Amerindian civilizations didn't support wokeness and if they flourished in an alternate history they still wouldn't support it.

Also, saying that white people should fuck off because it isn't for them? That's hypocrisy because the woke demand non-white people everywhere in medieval Europe. But oddly not Asia or pre-colonial Americas. Hm....

Anybody who is interested in an alternate history where colonization never happened isn't going to be unhappy there aren't white people. That's part the appeal. Given that, ya know, white people brought the diseases that wiped out the American civilizations.

Seriously, these people are so drunk on the woke kool aid.

HappyDaze

Quote from: Gagarth on March 30, 2021, 07:38:14 AM
Anybody up for an Amerindian supremacy RPG? https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/connoralexander/coyote-and-crow

QuoteIf you have a problem with a game where there are no people of European descent represented, than this game is probably not for you.
That quote could have been used to describe L5R as well. The lack of "European" people being depicted didn't mean shit to me, and I enjoyed L5R. I don't even remotely believe that it is authentically Japanese (or even more broadly authentically Asian), but I had fun with it. I could likewise probably have fun with a game about a fantasy America without Europeans, and I'd also give no shits whether or not it was "authentic" representation so long as it played well.

Abraxus

I might get the PDF if it is on sale on Drivethrurpg yet have enough RPGs for the moment. As well I find the author or at least the one who is responding to questions in the Kickstarter extremely terribly naive and seems to have drunk deep of the SJW kook aid.

Your concept is North America is coming out of major ice age and population has dwindled. Yet somehow they also seem to have enough resources and tech to be successful tribes and they also for the moment seem to be getting along.

I'm a fan of alternative history style book and RPGs. Seems like another RPGs heartbreaker

RandyB

Quote from: yabaziou on March 30, 2021, 02:13:05 AM
Quote from: Shasarak on March 30, 2021, 12:18:39 AM
Quote from: BoxCrayonTales on March 29, 2021, 09:08:52 PM
I don't understand why these SJWs are so obsessed with hating dead people.

Its much easier to punch down at dead people.

With HP Lovecraft, it is even better since he left no child to defend his good name and reputation.

They should idolize him for that, because they aren't going to have any children of their own, either.

horsesoldier

Quote from: RandyB on March 30, 2021, 08:50:42 AM
Quote from: yabaziou on March 30, 2021, 02:13:05 AM
Quote from: Shasarak on March 30, 2021, 12:18:39 AM
Quote from: BoxCrayonTales on March 29, 2021, 09:08:52 PM
I don't understand why these SJWs are so obsessed with hating dead people.

Its much easier to punch down at dead people.

With HP Lovecraft, it is even better since he left no child to defend his good name and reputation.

They should idolize him for that, because they aren't going to have any children of their own, either.

And a lot of them seem to come from means and have father issues. They just lack talent.

jhkim

Quote from: Gagarth on March 30, 2021, 07:38:14 AM
Anybody up for an Amerindian supremacy RPG? https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/connoralexander/coyote-and-crow

QuoteIf you have a problem with a game where there are no people of European descent represented, than this game is probably not for you.
Quote from: sureshot on March 30, 2021, 08:48:57 AM
I might get the PDF if it is on sale on Drivethrurpg yet have enough RPGs for the moment. As well I find the author or at least the one who is responding to questions in the Kickstarter extremely terribly naive and seems to have drunk deep of the SJW kook aid.

Your concept is North America is coming out of major ice age and population has dwindled. Yet somehow they also seem to have enough resources and tech to be successful tribes and they also for the moment seem to be getting along.

I'm a fan of alternative history style book and RPGs. Seems like another RPGs heartbreaker

I wouldn't call it an alternate history per se since it has superhuman powers like clairvoyance from the Awis -- the mysterious asteroid crash around 1400. And it's set in the year 2100 or so. Seven hundred years of various superhuman abilities is a huge difference from real history.

It's pitched as science fantasy, not science fiction - so lots of weird powers and weird technology rather than real-world prediction.